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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 20:19 GMT
#2292
yes, it's some quite interesting stuff with that mason circle stuff. I would assume that as Acro claimed unlynchable, he was maybe hoping that people hadn't spotted what was there and he'd get away with it. Of course not shooting Acro when he claimed vote rigger AND edited the post out is extremely silly.

In fact Acro should have been instantly outed as mafia the moment you saw him do that, rayn. Oh well, water under the bridge.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 20:35 GMT
#2295
On April 01 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 03:57 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm feeling a bit better about Rayn now that he's decided to talk more about his role. His shots make me want to yell at him though, but I'm not sure if I want to lynch him for it yet.

You srsly think there is a possibility that i am scum and shot my teammate?

To be fair, I think there is a *possibility* that you did. However, I don't find it *likely* that you did.

But Acro was dead either way. If you are scum, you might as well shoot him and get town cred to ride to the easy win. The question really comes down to "Does scum rayn have the balls to pull it off?"

I can tell you that scum!rayn would have the balls to do stuff like that. Don't you think it would be a bit OP for mafia to have an incredibly powerful vote-rigger (given that Palmar had the double lynch power) and a multi-shot anonymous vigi?


lol yes, I think you would definitely have the balls for it too. And yes, the fact you shot Grack makes it likely you're town, given we had 2 KP from mafia night 1. Usually in a game this size, mafia might be given one KP but then additional roles like a scumvig. It seems unlikely that mafia would get 2 KP *and* a multi-shot vigi.

In addition your explanation was more than I was hoping for, so that's good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 20:59 GMT
#2297
Right guys, I'm a one-shot roleblocker (exciting I know) and I roleblocked sinani tonight.

My best guess right now is sinani + Oats for mafia, although I'm not massively sure about it.

I also agree with Hapa's idea of roleclaiming, I was going to suggest it myself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 21:00 GMT
#2299
dat timing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 21:00 GMT
#2300
Unless there's a medic and shit, sinani is pretty much confirmed mafia now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 21:03 GMT
#2305
... it could also be that. It's the same time for us europeans because of Daylights Savings this weekend :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 21:03 GMT
#2307
##Vote: InsertSmurfHere
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 21:09 GMT
#2309
On April 01 2013 06:03 prplhz wrote:
##Vote InsertSmurfHere


full roleclaim please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 21:12 GMT
#2311
On April 01 2013 06:09 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
... it could also be that. It's the same time for us europeans because of Daylights Savings this weekend :/

If non-Europeans missed night actions because of DST, that would be pretty silly.

Deadline was at 5pm my time yesterday, but 4pm today :o


yeah, losing/winning the game because mafia thought they had an extra hour to submit night actions would suck.

It kinda sucks that I don't know whether my roleblock was effective or it was a time issue :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 22:04 GMT
#2336
On April 01 2013 07:03 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote:
So this implies that mafia only have one factional KP. In that case, they most likely have a vig. This vig is most likely prplhz. Using prplhz's power as claimed makes little to no sense on palmar - he didn't give any indication that he was a VT. It makes a ton of sense for scum.

Alternate possibility: scum KP is 2 until one member dies, so when acro died their KP went down to 1.

Prplhz, why did you use your power for a non-confirmed only-sort-of check on scum instead of to give town a gun? Marv and I have both claimed that we are vanilla townies, did you ask kurumi what would happen if our role claims are correct and you target us?

You're not a vanilla townie, are you?

I thought you were a 1-shot Medic?

And marv just claimed that he was a roleblocker.


I'm a vanilla townie but a one-shot roleblocker, much the same as s&b was with medic.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 22:07 GMT
#2340
On April 01 2013 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
On April 01 2013 07:03 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote:
So this implies that mafia only have one factional KP. In that case, they most likely have a vig. This vig is most likely prplhz. Using prplhz's power as claimed makes little to no sense on palmar - he didn't give any indication that he was a VT. It makes a ton of sense for scum.

Alternate possibility: scum KP is 2 until one member dies, so when acro died their KP went down to 1.

Prplhz, why did you use your power for a non-confirmed only-sort-of check on scum instead of to give town a gun? Marv and I have both claimed that we are vanilla townies, did you ask kurumi what would happen if our role claims are correct and you target us?

You're not a vanilla townie, are you?

I thought you were a 1-shot Medic?

And marv just claimed that he was a roleblocker.


I'm a vanilla townie but a one-shot roleblocker, much the same as s&b was with medic.

Oh god, that is so confusing.

Having a power implies NOT Vanilla.

Silly Kurumi! <3


It also implies that prplhz is at least telling the truth about how his role functions, because it seems specifically designed for that role.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 22:21 GMT
#2356
On April 01 2013 07:19 prplhz wrote:
yea i don't know if i killed palmar so i was looking for people who might know something. which is why i went crazy when cora said that palmar was killed by a vig (which he apparently didn't say anyway).


yes, this makes sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 22:35 GMT
#2361
Mostly right now I just wanna hear sinani's roleclaim.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 22:37 GMT
#2363
On April 01 2013 07:36 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 07:34 prplhz wrote:
because we have a check on him

Err what?

I guess I'm missing something?


On April 01 2013 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Right guys, I'm a one-shot roleblocker (exciting I know) and I roleblocked sinani tonight.

My best guess right now is sinani + Oats for mafia, although I'm not massively sure about it.

I also agree with Hapa's idea of roleclaiming, I was going to suggest it myself.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:13 GMT
#2375
On April 01 2013 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
i had no read on palmar n1. he was townie early but he didn't care much about lynch (saying "i can lynch anybody" and then in the end he just kind of meh'd while we lynched into 6%) and he wasn't active at night so i thought i'd give him and gun and see what happened. if he looked scum on d2 then i could just give him another gun (would kill him). i didn't at all predict that he was blue.


Excuse me but following your logic from N1 (gunning Palmar) why did you give the gun to Smurf? Why not sinani and if he does not die you kill him the next night? Smurf was anyways gonna get lynched today and you 100% knew it.


That's why he did it to Smurf, silly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2385
On April 01 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.


You're mistaking suboptimal play for mafia play, methinks
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#2389
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"




I probably wouldn't have used the ability night 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:59 GMT
#2395
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!


Yes, and you left a claimed mafia vote-rigger liar alive on a double lynch day with 2 mafia up for the lynch. Whatever thought process you're criticizing, it's a much less egregious sin than that I'm afraid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2013 00:08 GMT
#2402
On April 01 2013 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:59 marvellosity wrote:
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!


Yes, and you left a claimed mafia vote-rigger liar alive on a double lynch day with 2 mafia up for the lynch. Whatever thought process you're criticizing, it's a much less egregious sin than that I'm afraid.

So you are saying that as i made a mistake i am not allowed to tell why i think people are scummy?
Fine, let's just sit and hold hands and see if we win or lose.


That's not what I'm saying at all. You're criticising a thought process on his Night 2 action and generally calling his actions "not townie behaviour". Ostensibly your action in leaving a mafia alive who could lynch two townies instead of 2 mafia is the single most scum-motivated move in the thread other than the vote rigging itself.

Choosing Smurf night 2 is simply not scummy at all. Giving a gun to Palmar was potentially scummy but potentially just misguided. I'm basically saying you're being a little hypocritical, as you should have some empathy with a townie who didn't use his role in the absolute best manner.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 01 2013 00:30 GMT
#2405
The fact I'm barely following your logic (I'm sure it could be essentially correct) makes me feel that it's not very surprising that prplhz didn't think like you are.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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