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On March 29 2013 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote: Have I given any reason not to believe it? How in the world could I prove it? Why would I have claimed it before? I don't get how giving out who I targetted could help prove anything but sure I guess. I targetted Ray and Virtu. Well it proved if you are medic... you picked the worst person to pretend to doctor night 2. Should have said Ray again. Virtu doesn't make sense with how late in the game it is. | ||
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On March 29 2013 11:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: So then why did you wait almost a whole day to claim? It was his second post of the day! | ||
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On March 29 2013 12:04 JarJarDrinks wrote: Oh trust me, I would have protected Ray again but I can't target the same person 2 nights in a row. I wasn't crazy about picking Virtu but I had the rest of u guys as likely scum. He was what was left. Oh yes that convenient little list. Why include yourself if your the medic? Or better yet: Why Virtu? He makes no sense at all. So why not include the one maybe townie on your list in Krafia? | ||
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On March 29 2013 12:15 JarJarDrinks wrote: Is that a real question? Obviously to keep myself alive. It worked pretty well since it forced you guys to kill one of my suspected scummies. Yea why would we kill the one guy we both agree is town and you think is scum? Thats easy enough to manipulate against. Killing you or ray is much better for us. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's pretty damn bad assumption right there. There is no way mafia has both GF and roleblocker. And if that was true why the fuck would we not use our roleblock and have the GF instead claim being roleblocked? That's like the stupidest thing to do when you can actually prevent roles from acting instead. Heh, fair point. However, I don't think there is a godfather, or if there is it an't virtu. There is no reason for Virtu to fake being role blocked when hes gotten away with lurking and hasn't bread crumbed a power role for us or fake claimed it. I still find the cop case way better then the medic case. Krafia was the OBVIOUS hit last night, and considering Virtu afked the entire game hes easy to bandwagon onto as only coming back for red posts, he'd have been a much less useful save compared to Krafia, who had been active and there was some certainty that he would be here today, where as virtu thats a gamble that just happened to pay off. Also Jarjar, I don't like how you tried to pressure Krafia into revealing who he was going to go after during the night phase, points too much to trying to frame me by getting him to admit it, or getting too scared to risk him ending up voting for you. These reasons are why my vote is staying on you. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:33 virtu wrote: EBWOP: For the record, I don't think TRN has been particularly townie looking either, but I feel I have no choice but to trust Rainbows claim over JarJar's. Either i'm right and ray/JarJar are scum, or i'm wrong and Rainbows/TRN are scum. It's as simple as that. You hurt my feelings Virtu. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's distracting only if you don't make conclusions from your questions. I think i have been clear to offer my thoughts after people have answered me - i mean, i ask question, they answer, i make conclusions from the answers and point them out in thread. My reason behind the question is this. If you are town you can easily come up with any possible scum combos assuming Rainbows/JarJar are both telling the truth and have a reasonable answer (if you think it's possible or not). If you are mafia it's much harder because you do not want to out your scumbuddy and you want to lynch a townie this phase and other players might see the flaws in your logic. That's what i was after. Now it's irrelevant becauase you dodged the question already and threw the ball back at me by discrediting my playstyle. Because your play style has worked out so well so far... Lets Tunnel Raven and let some myslynches happen while I push another myslynch cause I don't think you should scum hunt more then one person at a time! | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: You're looking @ things through a vacuum. Read the entire day and see how things went down and you'll see how my votes made sense: I voted for NW after making what I thought was a decent case. The case kinda fell apart as the day went on cause it relied on 2 things: - that Fishgle was a likely lynch candidate for the day which Ray pointed out to me that the Fishgle suspicion mostly occured after the action deadline - that Ray and Rainbows were both town. As the day went on, Rainbows started looking scummier and scummier. So I moved off of NW and on to you. Surely you can't blame me there right? You hadn't voted/posted/done anything. And I wanted to get you to respond. So then w/ like an hour left in the day Krafla makes one of the scummier posts I've seen. After having his vote on raven for a while, he decides to listen to a raging Rainbows (who I'm already reading as scum @ this point) and change his vote to NW stating that if he flips town, he'll know who the scum team is. So then I switched to Raven @ the end of the day because thats where two votes were and I was pretty sure NW was town @ that point. I knew it was unlikely to do anything since it only tied it, but maybe someone would switch or maybe you'd show up last minute. Like I said, it was unlikely to help, but there was literally no reason not to switch @ that point. So maybe me switching my vote around around a bunch wasn't that great in hindsight. But it all made sense @ the time. And no matter what happened. Nothing makes Rainbows cop claim look legit whatsoever. Like I get that this is a noob game, but a cop investigating to confirm his town read is the dumbest thing imaginable. Virtu, say I'm a bad townie all you want. But you're saying that you believe a cop would actually investigate to confirm town. How can you even consider that to be true? I don't understand why you talk like the way you do... your acting like you've been playing mafia for the longest time ever, this account is brand new. Cops always check the people alot of people say are scummy and they think are town, you don't want to get caught defending a guy who is a scum and you could have found out but chose not to. If nothing else, you need to do it so you can role claim to prevent a myslynch if its possible and pray that a medic of jailer will save you. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't lynch more than one scum in a day and you have been obv-scum from the beginning. There is no reason for me to vote for anyone else. And saying i have not been fighting against the other lynches is just bullshit. I have been very clearly trying to lynch you from D1 because you are scum, and besides that i have trying to figure out who is another person who is mafia. I found that out today. You have not. You've had tunnel vision this whole game. Go back and look at most your questions. Most of them involve asking people what they think of ME. You have made no effort to find anyone else who even MIGHT be scum. All you do is focus on me and pray to god that it works. Ray, you can't just focus on one person even if you can only lynch one. You have to change around, because focusing on one person, whether they are scum or not, makes you miss opportunities to confirm or deny other people on reasons other then their opinion of me, because when you turn up a myslynch of me... your hunting towards me was all useless, because all it tells you how many people bought your two day long case, and how many people thought it was stupid and were right. Its poor town play either way. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: You just called me town. :D No. I'm speaking to you as if you are town. My votes not on you anyways, its on Jarjar. If you are town, and you are right about rainbow's cop claim, I'm talking to you in a way I hope helps you next time you play mafia. Because, if rainbow's claim is a lie, which I have expressed some concerns about (which is way too risky this late in if I was on a mafia team with rainbows to risk blowing this up in our face when this is an all in gamble.), you need to know how you could have hunted better, maybe found out if rainbows was scum instead of just hoping I was. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: The game blew up on your face already. That's why Rainbows had to fakeclaim. There was no way anyone besides you/Rainbows was gonna get lynched on D3 without the claim and when you flip red it would confim the other one red. I like how day 3 has turned into a shouting match as opposed to an evidence hunt Ray. Hell day 2 was that way too. See when your evidence on a case is just screaming the same thing over and over and over again, its time to move onto another case. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:19 JarJarDrinks wrote: It's my first game on TL. I've played a bit elsewhere but the roles were very different. But I am capable of reading and the cop role here is to catch bad guys. If a cop investigates someone and expects them to flip green then he's playing it wrong. @Virtu like I said, you may think I played bad as a townie. But (assuming you're the townie) the game is going to be decided by you. And believing Rainbows cop claim is just so much worse than bad play you can accuse me of. No a cop's job is that of a cops in the real world. To prove GUILT or INNOCENCE. You should be able to do both for the reasons I stated, if your only going after the guilty then your stupid. You have to prove innocence just as much as guilt. This tells me you don't know how to play a cop, and makes me very glad you didn't roll it. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:39 JarJarDrinks wrote: I mean, how is that not a slam dunk? What other reason could he have for suggesting that you could be the godfather but not suggesting that Raven could? Because Virtu being GF makes more sense, he has lurked the entire game and claimed rb the entire night, which makes it unlikely there is a RBer and a GF, so him faking makes more sense. Also, I think I've demonstrated quite clearly the play of a townie trying to keep you guys from myslynching me. On a side note I want to ask you a question jarjar: Lets say your the cop. Would you only check me and rainbows? You would just... blindly assume that Ray is a townie because hes been trying to get me killed and protected you? When you have the power to check him, and make sure hes not setting you up to take the fall with him if he gets lynched? | ||
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On March 30 2013 02:18 JarJarDrinks wrote: Who do you think I should have targetted N1 and N2? Ray and then Krafia. Virtu was not in any danger because if nothing else there would be hope he was modkilled. Yep. I don't you'd need more than a basic understanding of how the game works to see that Rainbows claim was BS. I'm sorry. Tell me again how not voting or posting for a week is the right way to play the game. Ok, I guess I can't respond to you when you're just making stuff up that never happened. Like geez, it really sucks when people play the game and don't contribute for days on end, but you'd hope they actually read the thread. Like this is an outright lie. Raven never voted for me prior to my vote for him. In fact my vote for him was because he defended me. Please go back and reread the thread because its frustrating talking to someone that has no clue what actually happened in the game. So why isn't Ray suspicious when he was defending you? | ||
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On March 30 2013 12:18 Rainbows wrote: Essentially I knew there had to be one blue. I knew it wasn't you. Thought it was virtu... was actually expecting him to counterclaim and it would have been even easier I think. Could have played normally for the win, but hey, why bother that's no fun :p If jarjars medic claim wasn't so bad... like I said I'd have it on Ray. And then I'd have voted you next day. | ||
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