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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 15:36 GMT
#465
On March 28 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:51 TheRavensName wrote:
I will post a case on Ray tomorrow, my head is hurting too much to read anymore right now. Plus I would like to see feedback first as well as any responses from him. I know that if him and Jarjar are scum its going to be impossible for me to live without Virtu coming back anyways.

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On March 28 2013 14:16 TheRavensName wrote:
##Vote:JarjarDinks
Sleepy time now Point of this vote: Hope whoever checks this first votes for him and isn't one of the mafia.

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On March 28 2013 15:41 TheRavensName wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rainbows

Elaborate please. How is there reasoning and how are you not calling us all mafia?

I posted cases on Jarjar and Rainbows, your more tehn welcomed to read them I didn't post one Virtu cause hes too difficult and I think a flip would tell us more, and I actually called you town.

Side question, did anyone get roleblocked? That would tell us alot about virtu.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 16:15 GMT
#466
On March 23 2013 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand why Frorgon thinks Raven and JarJar are both scum given what Raven said. First of all, you can't base JarJar's alignment on what Raven says about him. It only gives us clues about Raven's alignment. It's not uncommon for mafia to soft/hard defend townies to make them look worse in case the mafia guy flips. Second of all, do not make connection cases pre-flip, that's just dumb.

So in my eyes Frorgon looks worse.

This is something that stands out to me when I look at your filter ray that I would like explained. Why have you not called out Rainbow as scummy, and I mean REALLY called him out, for defending me so hard/ Your whole early case was based on me defending Jarjar... but Rainbows gets a free pass? Not only that, outside of addressing me, you have not made very many comments at rainbows at all. I thnk theres a good chance that if Rainbows flips red, your the other red. You guys are avoiding making cases against the same people, which is rather easy sense your focused on Frorgon, Krafia, and Me, while Rainbows went after virtu, Nobodywonder, ad Jarjar... who you have defended.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 18:09 GMT
#468
How have you gone the entire game without making a single real case Jarjar?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 18:37 GMT
#470
On March 29 2013 03:33 Rainbows wrote:
Sorry guise working alllll the days right now

At a computer soon. Good news is that judging from recent events ive pinned the scumteam. All will be clear soon enough.

Lovely cause it seems your the victim of note right now.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#479
##Unvote
##Vote: JarjarDrinks

Dear god Rainbows you scared me. I was almost certain Virtu was going to be our only blue role and that it would be you and Ray scum team with Ray tunneling me while you focused on other people. The more I thought about my logic on Ray being town, the less it made sense. (At this point if its a fake blue claim, bravo... We are kind of forced to act on it at this point.)
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:22 GMT
#482
On March 29 2013 08:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
There is only one flaw in my logic... if virtu is the GF...
What about if Raven is the GF? How come that's not a possibility?

Virtu, the reason he said that you might be the GF is he left himself an out just in case you counterclaimed Ron. There's absolutely no reason for that sentence not to be: "There is only one flaw in my logic... if virtu or Raven is the GF..."


I guess there's no reason not claim now since the game is about to be won or lost based on this lynch. I'm Hermione Granger . I dare you to counterclaim Raven.

You have done, a shitty shitty job of protecting people then.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:24 GMT
#483
Especially sense the Krafia night hit was so so so EASY to predict. Shooing ray makes me look bad, and if me or Rainbows was mob that would be a poor choice, Virtu was an unknown so he couldn't be hit. I would be a bad shot cause I've been a high lynch canidate sense day 1, and that would just leave you. But Krafia....He was the only one who actually had townie reads from anyone and more then one person. Plus, there is no way mafia got GF and MafiaRB. No way.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:27 GMT
#485
On March 29 2013 08:13 Rainbows wrote:
Expect either a shitstorm or a hard concede. Raven, I've never played as scum but I don't think I'd defend you like that if I were red, ever. The object of the game is to lynch opposing faction not defend them T.T.

Why did you think I was scum, anyway? I thought I was pretty obviously town.

I sort of elaborated on it. Truth be told I'm not convinced your NOT scum at this point either... but if your willing to blue claim at this point I don't care. I know Ray and Jarjar can't be blues as the way ray has been tunneling me says he would have checked me first, and jarjar has given no hint of thinking anyone but ray is town. So if Virtu isn't going to dispute it I won't either.

However, the thing that pinged at the back of my mind is that you've played with me before. You would know from the previous game that I didn't go on the Omni wagon when it started because he was defending me so hard it didn't make sense to me he would do so if scum, so I thought it was possible you would pull that here. In which case you and Ray, who I thought was most likely to be scum if you were and the only option if Jarjar was, could alternate between playing hard defense without it being challenged with more attacks on me, and you gong after other people for him which would only risk exposing one of you, plus it was stated a few times the night kills poisioned the opinion on you two the most, and this was said by both you and ray almost immediatly.

TBH, Jarjar and Ray were my original reads... but I kind of brushed Ray off because, why waste all his time tunneling me? It could easily be costing him lynches. However, it always bothered me how easily he was willing to change over small things before going back to them, I kind of pushed them aside. Jarjar was a null/green read before last night phase actually. The way he jumped off the NW lynch to force a tie and voted around when he could look less guilty for a myslynched rub me really wrong.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:29 GMT
#486
How many Newbie games you got left rainbows?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:34 GMT
#489
On March 29 2013 08:32 Rainbows wrote:
This is my second game soooo... 1 or 2 right?

Its 3 total. So yea, one more. I think I might have 1 more left sense my first one was all the way back at Newbie Mini Mafia 9? Something like that and I was subbed in the day before the game ended.

Anyways: Theres only one scenario where Jarjar is medic and Rainbows is cop, because we can not have a godfather and no cop, and that would be Rey and Virtu... with virtu faking his RB claims on himself. But if thats the case, why are we not lynching Rey? I mean... I'm cool either way but still.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:36 GMT
#491
On March 29 2013 08:32 Rainbows wrote:
I'm not down with all this meta stuff anyway, seems kinda weird to me.

Oh its a horrible horrible thing. But its something you think about when your playing someone more then once. TBH, I don't think this was a very good game wether mafia wins by you faking this claim, or we win, or they win anyways cause its rey and virtu. It was.. just not a fun game. I hope the next one is better. I also hope I get to have something other then x3 VT, and I really want SK or Mob.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:38 GMT
#494
On March 29 2013 08:36 Rainbows wrote:
Unless you're trying to take the credit for my lynch -.-

No no. Put it back on jarjar. His claim is enough to make me want him dead, especially sense hes specificall challenging me. If he was town he would be challenging your claim on that logic. Who was your other check by the way?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:41 GMT
#496
On March 29 2013 08:37 Rainbows wrote:
Raven I think you just didn't like it because you got attacked the entire game by some scummer who was ignorant, etc.

I think I understand why NW lurked so much last game until the last day. Its hard to do anything cause I pushed a few cases that didn't seem to go anywhere, got stuck with the victim lynches, and probably shot myself in the foot with NW this game. So you start to get scared about shit what if this case is the one that gets me killed and nets the town one less when were already down a couple with no success. Ontop of that, I don't like only 9 people. Its a little too small for my taste, and alot of the games I keep browsing over, (Like the Game.) are all big ones, which are much more fun. Theres more to analyze and ways to judge peoples actions. This was HEy there are two wagons going, which do you like better?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:45 GMT
#498
On March 29 2013 08:43 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:41 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:37 Rainbows wrote:
Raven I think you just didn't like it because you got attacked the entire game by some scummer who was ignorant, etc.

I think I understand why NW lurked so much last game until the last day. Its hard to do anything cause I pushed a few cases that didn't seem to go anywhere, got stuck with the victim lynches, and probably shot myself in the foot with NW this game. So you start to get scared about shit what if this case is the one that gets me killed and nets the town one less when were already down a couple with no success. Ontop of that, I don't like only 9 people. Its a little too small for my taste, and alot of the games I keep browsing over, (Like the Game.) are all big ones, which are much more fun. Theres more to analyze and ways to judge peoples actions. This was HEy there are two wagons going, which do you like better?


I agree. The amount of inactivity was totally infuriating to say the least. I really want to get into a big big game with like 5-6 scum. Now that's epic.

In such a small game things seem to get personal pretty quickly.

Maybe not even liek 5 or 6 but the last game we did was pretty decent too, so I would be okay with like 3 or 4.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:47 GMT
#500
The Krafia shot still gets me a little. I think if Mafia really wanted to make sure they won they would have shot either you or Virtu, which is the only issue I have with your claim. While hes the only one we both claimed was town, he was already pretty ready to vote on me... so they shoot one of you two, blame me, and then boom instant lynch.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:50 GMT
#501
On March 29 2013 08:46 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 08:45 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:43 Rainbows wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:41 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 29 2013 08:37 Rainbows wrote:
Raven I think you just didn't like it because you got attacked the entire game by some scummer who was ignorant, etc.

I think I understand why NW lurked so much last game until the last day. Its hard to do anything cause I pushed a few cases that didn't seem to go anywhere, got stuck with the victim lynches, and probably shot myself in the foot with NW this game. So you start to get scared about shit what if this case is the one that gets me killed and nets the town one less when were already down a couple with no success. Ontop of that, I don't like only 9 people. Its a little too small for my taste, and alot of the games I keep browsing over, (Like the Game.) are all big ones, which are much more fun. Theres more to analyze and ways to judge peoples actions. This was HEy there are two wagons going, which do you like better?


I agree. The amount of inactivity was totally infuriating to say the least. I really want to get into a big big game with like 5-6 scum. Now that's epic.

In such a small game things seem to get personal pretty quickly.

Maybe not even liek 5 or 6 but the last game we did was pretty decent too, so I would be okay with like 3 or 4.


Lol Raven, I really want to roll scum with you. You can bus me if you want :D

See thats how you can tell I'm not a God Father. I LOVE to bus people like day 2. Especially in a small game like this where your unlikely to have many power roles and your almost certain to get away with it because you only need a small amount of town cred. You bus the RBer if there isn't another one, you shoot someone, bury someone, and then yay:You win cause no one can tell if its you or not. Though TBH, this game I would have probably taken the bussing because of how it was written against me.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 29 2013 00:14 GMT
#504
On March 29 2013 09:03 virtu wrote:
TRN, Rainbows' claim is far more belivable for 2 reasons, one being that his soft defense of you turned into a hard defense after his check of you, and secondly because he stopped tunneling me HARD when he checked me. If Rainbows is Scum he deserves the win, I think our best shot as Town is to side with him and stick it out.

Also i'd prefer to kill JarJar after that claim to be honest, It stinks of fakeclaim (no crumbs, doesn't specify his targets each night, doesn't aim the claim at rainbows but at TRN).

Also Also, I kinda think the reason scum left Rainbows alive is because of how hard he has tunneled me this game, I imagine scum thought it easy to jump on a Rainbows' fuelled wagon on me lategame to secure a victory (also the reason why they left me alive, that and why shoot someone who is useless to town).

Yea but Either way why leave rainbows out of the three of us? Krafia was going to vote for me, or atleast I think he was and I think he died cause Jarjar wasn't sure if he was going after me or him. If they shoot either you or rainbows, they got krafia to 3 man it.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#505
Also I know his claim is believable,but I am of the opinion no one is innocent until they flip or the game actually ends.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 29 2013 00:19 GMT
#507
On March 29 2013 09:17 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 09:16 TheRavensName wrote:
Also I know his claim is believable,but I am of the opinion no one is innocent until they flip or the game actually ends.


And how nobody saw you as town, I have no idea.

Well look at who didn't see me as town: Krafia and NW (Who were kind of lazy and made dumb and questionable decisions in both the games we've played with them.) and the two scum players.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 29 2013 00:21 GMT
#510
On March 29 2013 09:20 Rainbows wrote:
I really think they kept me alive to preserve the raven / rainbows scumteam theory, yes? Killed krafla to frame us.

ID have killed you, hoped Virtu was stupid or not showing up, and pushed me. Or I'd have pushed Virtu see what happens.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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