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On March 27 2013 03:11 Krafla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 02:46 Rainbows wrote:
Ray has fair potential to be scum. He's tunneled my town read (or at least, not an entirely scummy guy) the entire game.
His aggressive posting style i like but it seems that hes heading in the opposite direction i am with it.
If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude.
It seems like people this game hate taking stances... Who the heck are you guys' biggest scumreads, with, you know, good reasons? Right OK here's what I think, we've got two scum in nw and TRN. They've both voting for each other to cover and spread their votes. If there's another scum in the game I believe it's between virtu and JarJar. Here are my reads. Rainbows - I think you're town, but I think you're wrong to defend TRN. ray - I think you're town, you started off aggressive but you've calmed down and you seem to have the town's best interest at heart. JarJar - I'm on the fence with JarJar. You seem about as clueless as me when it comes to trying to make a reasonable read on anyone. nw - I don't like the fact he got away without voting in D1, where I put myself in a compromising position to avoid not voting. virtu - Same goes for virtu as nw however we've got the roleblock claim which no-one has commented on. I believe his claim partially because no one else claimed an RB. What is there in it for him to fake claim an RB. He wasn't the killer because we had a kill. Where does this leave us. His lack of posting is not helping us at all. Right, I'm going to go drive home so I'll be away for an hour or so... Oh I almost forgot TRN!! If you're town do me a favour and tell me who you cop checked on the first day and I'll move my vote off you.
Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.
On the side note: Why would me and NW keep this voting thing up if we were both mafia? We have been both set to be lynched today, and could have swapped to virtu to make it so he would by lynched over us right now. I think the fact that jarjar changed so quickly to someone that it is extremly unlikely to get enough votes (No one is going to swap off me for Virtu as long as I am the confirmed lynch, especially assuming at least two of them are mafia, and the only person who can break the tie to save me is Virtu himself.) should be viewed as suspicious. I am willing to bet NW and Jarjar are both mafia, and this is Jar jar's way of causing a myslynch and saving NW.
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On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up.
If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu?
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On March 27 2013 03:23 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 03:11 Krafla wrote:On March 27 2013 02:46 Rainbows wrote:
Ray has fair potential to be scum. He's tunneled my town read (or at least, not an entirely scummy guy) the entire game.
His aggressive posting style i like but it seems that hes heading in the opposite direction i am with it.
If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude.
It seems like people this game hate taking stances... Who the heck are you guys' biggest scumreads, with, you know, good reasons? Right OK here's what I think, we've got two scum in nw and TRN. They've both voting for each other to cover and spread their votes. If there's another scum in the game I believe it's between virtu and JarJar. Here are my reads. Rainbows - I think you're town, but I think you're wrong to defend TRN. ray - I think you're town, you started off aggressive but you've calmed down and you seem to have the town's best interest at heart. JarJar - I'm on the fence with JarJar. You seem about as clueless as me when it comes to trying to make a reasonable read on anyone. nw - I don't like the fact he got away without voting in D1, where I put myself in a compromising position to avoid not voting. virtu - Same goes for virtu as nw however we've got the roleblock claim which no-one has commented on. I believe his claim partially because no one else claimed an RB. What is there in it for him to fake claim an RB. He wasn't the killer because we had a kill. Where does this leave us. His lack of posting is not helping us at all. Right, I'm going to go drive home so I'll be away for an hour or so... Oh I almost forgot TRN!! If you're town do me a favour and tell me who you cop checked on the first day and I'll move my vote off you. Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game. On the side note: Why would me and NW keep this voting thing up if we were both mafia? We have been both set to be lynched today, and could have swapped to virtu to make it so he would by lynched over us right now. I think the fact that jarjar changed so quickly to someone that it is extremly unlikely to get enough votes (No one is going to swap off me for Virtu as long as I am the confirmed lynch, especially assuming at least two of them are mafia, and the only person who can break the tie to save me is Virtu himself.) should be viewed as suspicious. I am willing to bet NW and Jarjar are both mafia, and this is Jar jar's way of causing a myslynch and saving NW.
I want to add something while I'm thinking about it: If your clueless at making reads, why did you vote for me? Because Ray said so? You didn't jump on me with Ray before andhis case hasn't changed much at all. Instead you took the time to vote for yourself, which is still being called QUESTIONABLE AT BEST AND SCUM AT A MUCH MORE LIKELY SHOT.
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On March 27 2013 03:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 03:24 TheRavensName wrote:On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 27 2013 02:33 Krafla wrote:
JarJar who is your biggest read? I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up. If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu? I made my case on NW. Ray then pointed out a flaw in it which I acknowledged. So while it doesn't negate my whole case against him, he's probably not my top suspect anymore.
You also said you didn't think Virtu was scum either so.... Again this brings the question of why Virtu to the table.
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One final note about Krafia, I can't decide if hes lazy and stupid or scum and I would like some input on this. He has been trying to make a connection case sense day 1, first on me and Jarjar, now hes trying to jam one about me and NW, while also posting things (Like the vote on himself and his big useless list post.) That give me the impression he isn't even reading the thread, or at the very least hes skimming it till he can find something that he can piece together to look like hes playing when hes not. Combind this with last game, where he basically did the same thing while also making the mistake of role claiming and then getting RBed the entire game, which is what hes trying to get me to walk into, and it just... feels wrong, but I cant figure out if its bad townie that hsould probably be lynched but wont be, or scum play.
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On March 27 2013 04:24 Krafla wrote:Show nested quote +Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.
Ooh I'm glad you said this! So you're definitely not a cop then. Excellent. Please explain your first post; Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 12:16 TheRavensName wrote:
Hello guys... I'm going to use my opening post to say One thing and one thing only:
I haven't read any of the books after Chamber of Secrets or Watched a movie sense Goblet of fire. Am I going to have to wikipedia Dumbledores Army to get most the flavor text? I believe this is a scum slip right from the start. You throw down a fake blue breadcrumb, that you're a 1shot watcher, to give you something to come back to later in the game. But hang on a minute, this game doesn't have any 1-shot roles. Whoops, guess I can't carry on this charade, lets hope no one spots it.
Read the role listing, we don't even have a watchman! And a watcher and a Cop are VASTLY diferent roles. Considering you didn't even realize you were bread crumbing last game when it was so obvious you were, you should know better. And if you THOUGHT I was Bread crumbing Watcher, why would you force me to claim it or die? If I claim it I am unable to use those powers for the rest of the game, and the first post also doesn't say there are any 1 shots I don't see why you would assume I was one. And if I was one shot, I wouldn't waste it day 1 when there is not enough evidence to figure anything out, I would wait till tonight with this nice sample of posts I have to work with.
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On March 27 2013 04:27 Rainbows wrote:
Krafla.. What is this i dont even....
And people wonder why i dont like raven cases.
Rainbows, do you think this is a very poor town play from Krafia combined with him voting himself, or is this scum play trying to bait out a blue?
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On March 27 2013 04:44 Rainbows wrote:
Honestly Raven, i have no fucking clue. A town being this stupid is probably more likely than scum flailing his arms around trying to influence the lynch.
Like, its just so.... Bad....
I was thinkng so too but... then why wasn't I targeted at all? If he was sure I breadcrumbed day 1... wouldn't he have been pushing my shot or roleblocking? I was a victim of neither. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in Krafia but I still am leaning towards NW or Jarjar personally.
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I don't understand about nything else... how does that make me a one shot watcher as opposed to an actual watcher?
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On March 27 2013 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, i'm going out for some time. I'm not sure if i can get back before the deadline. I will stick with my vote on Raven. I don't think they are both scum with NW, i just feel like Raven is more likely to be mafia than NW.
I would be okay with lynching virtu as well. He's fucking useless.
So even with all thats just gone on, I'm still the scummiest person here? You are really going to be disapointed that you put the town in Lynch or lose mode...
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Well before you go Ray, can I get an explination as to why you think I'm scummier then NW/ I haven't actually seen a comparison between the two yet or much of a comment on NW at all from you. People you think are town think I'm town, but no one has come out as saying NW is town... You even asked him a question he has yet to answer.
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On March 22 2013 17:09 nobodywonder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 12:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Hey all, Don't worry I wont lurk @ all once the game starts rolling. Being how I've never played against any of y'all I have nothing to base any read off so I probably wont throw down a vote untill everyone's posted a bit. time to get it rollin' then JarJar or mesa annoyed by you. mesa angry. mesa point finger of suspicion on JarJarDrinks ##FoS: JarJarDrinks
This is one of NW's only post day one that doesn't contain something about EmmaWatson or Geript. The other one is him calling out Jarjar's sheeping vote and upgrading to a hand of suspicion, Outside of this he calls out mine and Jarjar's logic a few times and comments that Virtu is infact suspicious to him but doesn't even vote. Next day:
On March 26 2013 02:14 nobodywonder wrote:
^ woo~ excitement. yee about to get lynched. maybe i can find scum now hopefully.
about the non-vote, i derped hard. I would have voted virtu, but I was out and I forgot...
On March 26 2013 02:31 nobodywonder wrote:well i got a feeling ##Vote: TheRavensNamei got a feeling that today's gonna be a good lynch Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 04:09 TheRavensName wrote:
##unvote Raynpelikoneet
##vote: Frorgon
I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue. Raven killed Frogron. bolded words. strange. "I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel I should." what does this even mean? as a town mentality, it simply doesn't make any sense, why imply that virtu is town, and then mention no way to defend or should defend V. garbage filler post obvi. no need to mention virtu, and the explanation on frorgon is rather weak. lol he's suspicious, bad cases. nah, frorgon's cases weren't that bad, but at least he was explaining himself and I felt he was townie-ish. btw @Raven lehhsgo lynch geript and his nutter butter some other time aite ^^
I'm not sure what happened here but somehow I' m the one that killed Froron as opposed to the man who didn't vote, and now hes not voting for his suspicion? If he would have Virtu would be dead right now and Frorgon would be alive. But then he would have to have been responsable for killing someone, and apparently if hes not going to be MODKILLED for filure to vote when the rules say otherwise, why place suspicion upon himself if the Virtu lynch fails? REally if nothing else he should be lynched today for this reason alone. But apparently people are willing to let this go..
On March 27 2013 03:35 nobodywonder wrote:
so JarJar, who is your top scumread of an active poster? a vote on virtu, just doesnt cut right now since its rather useless at this point. We can always switch votes and get virtu later today if unnecessary.
And this, to me is the nail in the coffin. What does this post say? "I don't want to vote for my scum read right now, the one I kinda burried that I am against, but I would totally switch if the Raven lynch falls through and I need to save myself.
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To summarize: NW is someone who has lurked most the game and has gotten away with it by pushing a lynch on an incative guy without actually commiting, .but saying he totally would have, and now for no real reason hes swapping to me in order to keep himself alive. Thank you and have a nice day
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On March 27 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 06:58 TheRavensName wrote:
Well before you go Ray, can I get an explination as to why you think I'm scummier then NW/ I haven't actually seen a comparison between the two yet or much of a comment on NW at all from you. People you think are town think I'm town, but no one has come out as saying NW is town... You even asked him a question he has yet to answer. You straight out lied about me questioning Frorgon. You could have done a lot more, i even told you that "the best way to defend yourself is to find us scum". You have not been interested in finding scum in the latter part of D1 and on D2. Whenever you question other people it's because someone has said something about you. It's fucking scummy. NW at least seems to be trying sometimes.
The man didn't even vote Day 1.. and hes trying? Look at his filter. He has about 26 posts total if I counted right, and 10 of them invovle flavor or geript.
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On March 27 2013 07:59 nobodywonder wrote:But don't forget TRN, you joined my quest against the nefarious nutter butter. Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 12:40 TheRavensName wrote:On March 22 2013 12:35 nobodywonder wrote:wooooooooo ~ exciting game so far ##Vote: geriptI want a nutter butter.  ##Vote: GeriptI'm eating one right now... and I am making up for all the times I didn't get to do this last game. Speaking of contributions, yes I do realize I screwed up with not voting and I don't have that many posts, but still I'm trying to be more active to make up for tomorrow. Still that virtu guy hasn't contributed at all, if you want to talk about contributions. And in response to you Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 07:11 TheRavensName wrote:On March 22 2013 17:09 nobodywonder wrote:On March 22 2013 12:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Hey all, Don't worry I wont lurk @ all once the game starts rolling. Being how I've never played against any of y'all I have nothing to base any read off so I probably wont throw down a vote untill everyone's posted a bit. time to get it rollin' then JarJar or mesa annoyed by you. mesa angry. mesa point finger of suspicion on JarJarDrinks ##FoS: JarJarDrinks This is one of NW's only post day one that doesn't contain something about EmmaWatson or Geript. The other one is him calling out Jarjar's sheeping vote and upgrading to a hand of suspicion, Outside of this he calls out mine and Jarjar's logic a few times and comments that Virtu is infact suspicious to him but doesn't even vote. Next day: On March 26 2013 02:14 nobodywonder wrote:
^ woo~ excitement. yee about to get lynched. maybe i can find scum now hopefully.
about the non-vote, i derped hard. I would have voted virtu, but I was out and I forgot... On March 26 2013 02:31 nobodywonder wrote:well i got a feeling ##Vote: TheRavensNamei got a feeling that today's gonna be a good lynch On March 24 2013 04:09 TheRavensName wrote:
##unvote Raynpelikoneet
##vote: Frorgon
I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue. Raven killed Frogron. bolded words. strange. "I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel I should." what does this even mean? as a town mentality, it simply doesn't make any sense, why imply that virtu is town, and then mention no way to defend or should defend V. garbage filler post obvi. no need to mention virtu, and the explanation on frorgon is rather weak. lol he's suspicious, bad cases. nah, frorgon's cases weren't that bad, but at least he was explaining himself and I felt he was townie-ish. btw @Raven lehhsgo lynch geript and his nutter butter some other time aite ^^ I'm not sure what happened here but somehow I' m the one that killed Froron as opposed to the man who didn't vote, and now hes not voting for his suspicion? If he would have Virtu would be dead right now and Frorgon would be alive. But then he would have to have been responsable for killing someone, and apparently if hes not going to be MODKILLED for filure to vote when the rules say otherwise, why place suspicion upon himself if the Virtu lynch fails? REally if nothing else he should be lynched today for this reason alone. But apparently people are willing to let this go.. On March 27 2013 03:35 nobodywonder wrote:
so JarJar, who is your top scumread of an active poster? a vote on virtu, just doesnt cut right now since its rather useless at this point. We can always switch votes and get virtu later today if unnecessary. And this, to me is the nail in the coffin. What does this post say? "I don't want to vote for my scum read right now, the one I kinda burried that I am against, but I would totally switch if the Raven lynch falls through and I need to save myself. What nail in the coffin? I may switch to virtu, but as the thread going, it's rather useless at this point, cuz the man hasn't posted. It's rather useless for discussion and learning about agendas.
Its a nail because you are basically saying hes scummy and worth voting but not worth it at the same time. Yeaits not worth it cause he hasn't posted but then why even address it? At this point if h comes back and posts so he cant get mod killed, is he even worth lynching then if you think I'm scum? Likely no, so why bring it up? And I want to hear why you didn't vote for him day 1 if he was your read.
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Ontop of that: I didn't bloody focus on geript so much I forgot to vote when I realized he wasn't here NW. If were lynching people for being a lurker, then we should be lynching you considering Virtu is going to get modkilled at this rate.
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I've made my case against NW, he doesn't have much of a filter, you can go look at it and then read his filter to confirm it. Your trying so hard Ray that I don't think even if NW said he was scum would it save me in your eyes. Jarjar and NW are the scums in this game ,and everyone else knows it except you three.
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On March 27 2013 09:31 Rainbows wrote:
RAYS GOT ALL THE ANSWERS GUYS, HE JUST KNOWS!
FANCY THAT
When I say that I get in trouble...
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Good question Rainbows. I... I dunno what to tell you. I thought for sure that was going to be a red flip. As to the lynch responsability, it should probably go to me instead of you. I thought for sure Jarjar and NW would be the mafia members. Now I still like Jarjar, but I want to add Ray to replace NW. Because if were going to be biased in our lynch targets, why shouldn't it work both ways/
PS: My prediction for this night phase: Rainbows will be shot, I will be majority lynched as result and mafia wins by numbers without a casuality.
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This next day is make or break... we have to be SO careful about who we choose.. are we sure we want to go after Viru?
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