The absolute worst way for a Vet to die is through being lynched. We have no reason to not believe he's a vet. If we get to endgame with a Vet and a smaller amount of mafia, that's a distinct advantage.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 16:45 GMT

#1651

From Bureaucracy mafia:
layabout, Sandroba, VE, BH

Mr. Orange ... does that refer to Fruity Mafia?
hopeless1der, layabout, sandroba, yamato, Vivax

Layabout is the mirror, isn't he?

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 16:48 GMT

#1656

Do any vets have any idea what the other references were?

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 16:59 GMT

#1676

I think that we are better served finding scum today than lynching someone who claimed 3rd party.

We'll always know who the 3rd party player is, but if we refuse to look for scum today we lose a lot of ground.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 17:03 GMT

#1684

On March 21 2013 01:58 WaveofShadow wrote:

Show nested quote +

You're right, it doesn't, but until given more information what else can we go on? We can't risk an outed 3rd party with possible empowered role escaping unpunished.

We totally, absolutely can. There's no evidence of any 3rd party kill power yet, so it's not like we lose much yet, and we have scum to still find. If we lynch 3rd party today and scum uses 2 KP tonight, we're kind of in a precarious situation with only one serious lynch of information to go off of, and that was the crazy Day 1 mislynch.

I think we're far better off looking for scum for the rest of the day than we are instantly agreeing that we shoudl lynch VE. It is super easy for scum to agree to this and look pro-town.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 17:06 GMT

#1689

BTW, unvoting WoS in the voting thread

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 17:09 GMT

#1691

Scum feel absolutely zero pressure if we all agree to lynch VE, so I'm pretty much going to completely ignore this third party stuff until I feel it's relevant.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 17:23 GMT

#1701

Kenpachi has completely disappeared, which is odd considering this:

On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol

TestSubject has been completely AFK ever since he voted for GreyMist, save for this post, so look for his contributions soon:

On March 20 2013 11:28 TestSubject893 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've been really inactive. I had a couple of things come up that have been taking up a lot of my time. I'm like 20 pages behind but am going to catch up right now.

glurio's last post is calling WoS scum, and since the Eye claim, glurio's said nothing. I want to know if he believes WoS's claim and who his scum reads are now.

Cosmicomics' last post looked pretty scummy, and his VE case seemed absurd to me:

On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.

I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.

I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime.

Mr. Wiggles still has no new reads except for WoS, and he hasn't reacted at all to WoS's blue claim.

RyuSuzaku hasn't done anything since his N1 reads on VE, TranceStorm, and glurio.

Of all of these, I like cosmicomics the most as a lynch. He hasn't done much, and the things he's done lack follow-through -- he made the poor VE case and never spoke of it again, he showed up to tell WoS to quit being a baby after everyone else was already on WoS, and hasn't said anything about WoS again after that. He looks like scum to me.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 17:26 GMT

#1703

I don't know why we're assuming VE has any kind of kill power. You're assuming that joining the mirror actually GIVES him extra power, as opposed to simply joining their team.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 17:41 GMT

#1716

Didn't you, erm, join the third party cult?

Honestly, I was defending you until you literally joined an anti-town team. I don't understand your outrage here.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 18:02 GMT

#1744

why would you say "i accept" and then go tell the thread that you don't accept? It's not like he wouldn't see you state in the thread that you were lying

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 20 2013 18:56 GMT

#1767

VE, do you think that Wiggles is scummier than cosmic or Trance or TEstSubject?

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 13:56 GMT

#2288

I'm going to be spending the morning/afternoon catching up and everything after my last post. I checked in late last night to see how the vote was going and put it on Wiggles because he was the only one really up for lynch at that point that fell under my previous suspicions.

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 14:09 GMT

#2290

I bet Mocsta dies tonight. Somebody has it in for replacements, apparently

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 14:10 GMT

#2291

Mocsta, are you caught up on the thread yet?

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 14:13 GMT

#2293

Okay friend, when I am caught up we can combine our powers and rule the town for good

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 15:44 GMT

#2320

@ layabout: I say we see what happens N2 and go from there. If the total KP is unaffected, I say we leave VE alone and go for scum reads.

@ Vivax: TranceStorm began defending himself after my read on him, and Mr. Wiggles did not, so I pushed Wiggles. I'll be taking another look at Trance today.

@ Mocsta: I can't even remember what geript was like except that I think he was inactive lyncyhbait, but I might be mixing him up with glurio. I honestly don't recall. You brought up a good point and I'll check it out today

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 15:45 GMT

#2321

On March 21 2013 11:45 sciberbia wrote:
cosmicomics
But what do you guys think about making this a cosmicomics lynch?
I think we can all agree he is:
- reasonably likely to be scum
- lurky
- does not show any indication of ever contributing more

I would be happy to write up a case and vote cosmicomics if you guys would be receptive.

I don't know how to feel about this, as I would have been plenty happy with a CC lynch if I weren't AFK at the time, but that last line reads incredibly scummy. He only wants to make a case if people will agree with it? If you're convinced about a CC lynch, shouldn't you make the case and push it, not ask people if they WANT you to make the case and push it?

zarepath

United States1626 Posts

March 21 2013 16:06 GMT

#2325

Okay, so for the next bit it's going to look like I"m slinging crap at everybody unnecessarily, but I pulled out all the suspicious posts I wanted to talk about as I was catching up, so it's not all aligned into big cases yet, but I don't want these things looked over or forgotten.

On March 21 2013 12:04 Mocsta wrote:
##Vote: goodkarma

SHEEP ME

I noticed that right at the time when everyone is asking for consolidation, Mocsta busted out a completely different wagon.

Also notice that Mocsta has been getting a LOT of mileage out of criticizing people for jumping onto the Ace case. He was pretty critical of those on the Ace case, but not really pushing his own case that much. It's not that he had a town read on ACe; he just wanted to criticize those voting for him for some reaosn. And right after the flip, he re-quotes himself saying that.