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On March 21 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: At least you admit the reasoning from testsubject is bad. Im not accusing him of bad reasoning though. I am saying he is blatantly misrepresenting reasoning as vote justification... the key point is that he was just in a game where town martyred.. yet he conveniently leaves this out.. how is that *bad*?? As for Ace.. basically u are advocating a "low activity" lynch... are you really suggesting here that TL finest scum.. who even wrote a guide on how to play adaptive scum, will proceed to just lurk; and be caught so easily? You're just putting words in my mouth. We could do that about anyone. Look: You only made that "case" against me because you were intentionally trying to save your scum buddy Wiggles from a lynch. You are blatantly misrepresenting reasoning on why you did that because you don't admit this. You're calling me a liar, and then when I tell you I wasn't lying, you call that a lie too, because obviously I was lying so saying I wasn't is a falsification. | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:11 Mocsta wrote: So far, I havnt seen anyone actually refute what im saying On March 21 2013 12:52 TestSubject893 wrote: You want to know why I was trying to stay concise? So I wouldn't waste everyone's time having to read another 3 pages of spam from BH. Every time I've posted this game he just takes a shit in the thread. Its getting in the town's way, and I don't know why no one else wants to kill him for the obviously anti-town behavior. I'm not saying that its scummy because scum have done it or because town haven't. Its just scummy, I happen to mention some scum who I've seen do it lately. We can't just let people martyr. Otherwise scum would do it every time and just get away from lynches. I'm not sure what's wrong with that reasoning. This case doesn't seem to have enough solid reasoning for you to want to kill me. Please give me the rest of your reasoning so I can help you sort through that as well. The entity of your case comes down to a single point that I address in bold here. I've yet to see you tell me why that reasoning is something a "townie could never do". You're being intentionally uncooperative with me and putting words in my mouth the entire time. How is this case enough to kill me over the many other good targets we have? Why don't you want to kill BH for his blatant lack of reasoning for voting me D1? Surely its far worse that what I've done. | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:25 Mocsta wrote: I actually like this last response from you. It has the right amount of confidence/aggression in it. Im going to take a step back this cycle & When this lynch is over, im going to read your whole filter in detail and decide whether i want to still pursue this martyr vote. As I said to DP prior: because Im not gettign support on this lynch, i will consolidate on either. gk or wiggles. And yes, I find it odd BH said he liked my case on u.. but i had to prod him to add his vote.... not sure what to make of it. I was talking about his day 1 vote that was literally unexplained. I've been over this already, have you even been reading the thread? You probably skipped it because of the shitfest he threw over it. Its in my filter you'll see it. Also, the fact that calling you unreasonable got you to back off is super scummy. If you're town how about you start listening to reasoning instead of plugging your ears and whistling when someone you accuse posts. Its a lot easier for us to solve the game that way. | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:38 Wade Fell wrote: there's like nobody with double digit votes on them. we must consolidate or die. I nominate VE and TS as the two potential conslidation targets. There's no one voting for TranceStorm right now, that's a silly idea. | ||
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That's silly too. There's only 2 votes on not only did you express interest in moving your vote, but Mocsta just implied he'd be moving his. | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:42 WaveofShadow wrote: DP, thoughts if it comes down to Ace or VE? I value your opinion sir. I think I may be forced to vote Ace if it comes down to it, my gut's telling me VE was telling the truth about his retarded 3rd party bullshit. I have to kinda sympathize 'cause I know I could fuck something like that up similarly. Let's say he was telling the truth at the time. There is still a huge possibility that he has since then been informed that he was in fact recruited. Posts like this one make me think that's the case: On March 21 2013 14:22 VisceraEyes wrote: geript: Ace is scum. The third party thing is irrelevant. Completely. The only reason I made a big deal about it was because I felt like I was being ignored. But the fact is that if I EVER had any intention of joining a third party faction, or had any inclination that I ALREADY HAD been inducted into a third party faction, I certainly wouldn't post a log that INCLUDES me accepting his offer. There's no reason for me to do that as any alignment but town. Now, factor everything in. I was shot at last night. Ace has trouble finding scum reads. A wild anonymous mason appears. VE shits up the thread. Ace suddenly wants to lynch VE? The third party thing MEANS NOTHING. Why would Ace prioritize lynching a possible 3rd party over finding scum? | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:44 Wade Fell wrote: I am interested in moving my vote to VE. That being said, you have essentially claimed scum in thread several times, and if there will be vote shennanies I'd highly enjoy shennanieing onto you, kind sir Rofl, what? Show me the scum claims sometime. Not now though because we've got more important things to do. | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:47 Wade Fell wrote: Your scumclaim is the fact that you haven't hunted scum or been in the thread or done anything except scumslide around in the thread when people finally call you out for your lurking and lack of contributions Wow, there's like a dozen claimed scum then. Who thought a game could be balanced with more mafia than town? | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:49 Wade Fell wrote: Except you're actively pretending to be a helpful dude (albeit poorly) rather than just being afk Nice try, but I see where this is going. I'm not getting into another spamfest. It would have been a nice distraction though. I bet your scum teammates are proud of the effort. | ||
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On March 21 2013 14:51 Wade Fell wrote: you STILL haven't addressed my case against you. and when I call you out for your scumminess you claim I'm trying to spam, but you can't make my case go away just by ignoring it. You're just trolling at this point. Anyone wanna switch to BH? He's pretty clearly trying to distract the thread here. We're gonna have to kill the scum at some point so I'm totally cool with killing him today and VE tomorrow. | ||
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And what's this? His case on me out of no where makes sense all of the sudden. To use one of Mocsta's favorite terms, its a chainsaw defense of BH, his teammate. Mocsta and BH are scum. They need to die. | ||
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On March 22 2013 01:08 zarepath wrote: I didn't like how Testsubject's opinion on cosmic's case is almost as null of an opinion as he can give; very few details, and if he liked it so much, where was he pushing it? I also want to know why I'm not looking great in his eyes. Testsubject, what is scummy about me? He just reads as being very unconcerned, and possibly trying to avoid suspicion. I wasn't pushing that case because I wasn't reading the thread at that point... Honestly I didn't focus on it much because I was trying to get caught up. You've been scummy mostly because of the tone and perceived motivation of some of your posts. I'm not feeling as strongly about it anymore though to be honest. If you are scum you're at the back of line right now, we'll focus on you more when we need to. | ||
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On March 22 2013 01:51 Vivax wrote: Sick case Test Subject. Sick spam Vivax. | ||
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On March 22 2013 02:07 zarepath wrote: Why aren't you feeling it as much now? You read me as scum and you don't as much now, and I'd like justification for that. Also it will make me feel better about myself hopefully. You've been more helpful and I haven't seen as many posts that come off as posting just to appear active. | ||
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My role is just a plain old night vigi, other than the fact that I was not allowed to shoot night 1. I think its best if I keep the name of my role and the number of shots I have remaining to myself for now. I'm going back to sleep now, its 3 am here. | ||
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On March 22 2013 22:24 WaveofShadow wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Lol glurio's single post of the day until tomorrow! Totally not scummy at all. Going to prove how scummy this is at some point later today; either way we have bigger fish to fry than him right now. On March 22 2013 06:02 WaveofShadow wrote: GK/Wiggles/glurio/TS/+1 scumteam I was wrong about GK but I'm right about the others. For now: ##Vote: Mr. Wiggles Oh and Zare whether or not GK protected me didn't matter, I was roleblocked (I think?). Not that it mattered much; I targeted Vivax last night. Can you go into a little detail on why you chose vivax? On March 22 2013 17:26 DoYouHas wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Ok, so I checked in to see the flips right after the deadline, shut off my computer, and tried to go to sleep because I need to get up early tomorrow. I couldn't sleep, the flips have given me a sudden clarity to my reads and my brain wouldn't stop going. I think I have greatly narrowed the number of suspects. -Testsubject: Claimed the vigi hit on BH, no reason to disbelieve. Town. -VE - At this point he is as close to guaranteed not-mafia as we are ever going to get, town or 3p. -Zarepath - Very likely to be town. The quality of his posts has been going up as the game progresses and I just don't see how scum zarepath posts this about me. -WoS & TPS: I believe WoS's claim, but even if I didn't I would take him off the table for today's lynch because of it. Also, TPS seems cleared both by WoS's check and the fact that he was BH's first choice of tunnel. -kitaman27: Seems quite townie to me. I don't know if anybody would disagree with me on this point. -layabout: Similar to kita in my mind, if a little less verbose, town or 3p. -Coag and Kenpachi: I read both as town, possible 3p. It should be noted that in my mind the lynching objectives of the 3p, if it exists, should be the same as the towns, given how horrendously fast we are losing this. Because of this I consider VE off the table for today. That is 10/17 people who's opinion I think I can trust (including my own). This narrows my field of search to just 7 names: DP, Trance, glurio, CC, geript, Ryu, and Wiggles. Some of which I find scummy, some of which I am null on currently, and some of which I just haven't looked into enough. And no, I'm not going to say which is which. I've shot myself in the foot using this kind of reasoning before when I thought I had the whole scumteam pegged. But really I was 2/4, and in my attempts to convict them all I alienated the 2 townies in the group, lost their votes and had the lynch manipulated to the wrong target. If you disagree strongly with the people in either of these groups, I want to hear it. But if I am not completely out of touch with this game, and I correctly identified most of the townies, and those same townies also see it this way, we just created a majority, so long as we can actually work together to pick the best lynch candidate. Remember, if you are in my second group, I'm not calling you scum yet, and clearly I would be wrong about at least 3 of you. I want your comments too. I want to refine this list of reads until scum have nowhere left to hide. Hopefully I will be able to sleep now that I have gotten this out of my head. Gnight. I don't like this post. It makes a lot of assumptions. Surely you're not putting 10 people in the category of confirmed town? And if you aren't then the rest of the logic falls apart. On March 22 2013 21:42 zarepath wrote: EBWOP: Yes, I am going to assume that Vivax Sworded GoodKarma. He voted for him yesterday, and near the end of N2 he was asking for cosmic's opinions on both GK and VE. Also, too bad about Mocsta. I agree that vivax almost certainly shot GK. If scum are gonna get themselves modkilled we shouldn't sit here and cry about it though. I like where we're going with Wiggles and CC as lynch targets and the general reasoning behind it. Lets keep focused and not let this turn out like day 2. | ||
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