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On March 16 2013 11:01 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed. BOOOOOOOOOOO What's your take on all of this Kei? Do you 100% agree with Marv on everything, or is there something (hell anything) that you disagree with?
Just so you know, the post asking you about DeathNote was me. Notice I said (me and marv), because I really don't remember much about Death Note since I wasn't in it and didn't read the early days.
But no. We discussed our reads in length during the night and came to a consensus together. Promato was my town read, Moology was marv's, etc. We aren't separate players, we are FiveTouch. We're playing together as a team because that's honestly the best way to play a hydra.
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So, from what I do remember of Death Note, marv had to send in his kills during the day. So, what you're saying is, he sent in a kill on Palmar, but kept pushing Palmar and got him lynched, therefore wasting his kill?
I don't really see how that is that similar to this game at all.
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On March 16 2013 11:07 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 11:05 FiveTouch wrote:On March 16 2013 11:01 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed. BOOOOOOOOOOO What's your take on all of this Kei? Do you 100% agree with Marv on everything, or is there something (hell anything) that you disagree with? Just so you know, the post asking you about DeathNote was me. Notice I said (me and marv), because I really don't remember much about Death Note since I wasn't in it and didn't read the early days. But no. We discussed our reads in length during the night and came to a consensus together. Promato was my town read, Moology was marv's, etc. We aren't separate players, we are FiveTouch. We're playing together as a team because that's honestly the best way to play a hydra. Yeah, but just because Moology was Marv's town read doesn't mean that you share that opinion. What is your individual NON-HYDRA opinion of Moology?
That's a fucking dumb question. I had a thought, we discussed it, he convinced me otherwise, so I obviously agree with what he wrote, otherwise he wouldn't have written it. WE'RE WORKING AS A TEAM. Get that through your head.
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On March 16 2013 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 11:07 FiveTouch wrote:
So, from what I do remember of Death Note, marv had to send in his kills during the day. So, what you're saying is, he sent in a kill on Palmar, but kept pushing Palmar and got him lynched, therefore wasting his kill?
I don't really see how that is that similar to this game at all. No he sent in the Palmar NK, and town lynched Palmar without Marv's help at all. I remember he was against the idea of killing Palmar (didn't push it much though).
So...how is this situation similar then?
You're saying: Dont push Palmer -> NK Palmar is the same as Push Palmar -> NK Palmar. I don't get it.
On March 16 2013 11:11 Hapahauli wrote:
ok ok yeah FT is town.
Back to sheepy-land
##Vote ObliviousEyes
wat
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On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.
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I...what? That makes no fucking sense. I've been posting every night after marv goes to bed. You were suspicious of me earlier for it, but now its a town tell?
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On March 16 2013 11:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.
I...what? That makes no fucking sense. I've been posting every night after marv goes to bed. You were suspicious of me earlier for it, but now its a town tell? Sure why not? Marv went to bed, and you are apparently taking the whole "we are one person thing" seriously. You didn't have to talk to me. You could have just not addressed me at all, and instead you jumped into the fray. I consider that townie, combined with your general "defiant" demeanor. As for my suspicious of you earlier, that was based on you not contributing reads and not understanding how you were playing that hydra. Anywho, you need not understand me - only agreement is required.
Of course I need to understand you. I call out people with bullshit reasons for town reads on me all the time.
But for now I'm satisfied with your answer.
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On March 16 2013 14:53 DrParnassus wrote:
like, i'm pretty certain VE is scum. i'm certain enough that VE is scum that i'm kinda willing to lynch TLGolem by association of his null read on VE, just to make VE have to play the game out a little longer.
Hapa and Marv I have VERY strong town reads on. Marv's reaction to my self vote makes him town. Keir's insanity makes him town. Hapa looks very town from about D2 post onwards and I'm willing to chalk up the D1 to the general lazy atmosphere of the thread.
Promato is town by association of his earlier case on VE
That only leaves moology and TLCG, and after that last post from golems..... it's gotta be golem.
yes I'm terribad for everything i've just written, but idc
My insanity? 
Also those reaction posts to your self-vote were me.
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On March 16 2013 15:09 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 14:53 DrParnassus wrote:
like, i'm pretty certain VE is scum. i'm certain enough that VE is scum that i'm kinda willing to lynch TLGolem by association of his null read on VE, just to make VE have to play the game out a little longer.
Hapa and Marv I have VERY strong town reads on. Marv's reaction to my self vote makes him town. Keir's insanity makes him town. Hapa looks very town from about D2 post onwards and I'm willing to chalk up the D1 to the general lazy atmosphere of the thread.
Promato is town by association of his earlier case on VE
That only leaves moology and TLCG, and after that last post from golems..... it's gotta be golem.
yes I'm terribad for everything i've just written, but idc My insanity? Also those reaction posts to your self-vote were me.
EBWOP: Specifically the "What the actual fuck" and "0 fucking sense" ones.
~Keir
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Also, rofl @ Hapa repeating my points about the case against them 
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On March 16 2013 15:25 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:Show nested quote +For now I will fix my(/our) play and contribute in fewer, more meaningful amounts, because it is all we can muster right now. Nononononono. No. You will not post less. I don't care if you're promising a "higher quality" of posting - I need to see you active in the thread. You do not have the luxury be a lurker right now. Tomorrow, we are going to have a long, spammy chat in which I will figure out if what you did was indeed a "derp" moment or a pile of scummy BS. Fuck discussion with your partner. I want to figure out what you think. In addition, I want to see more of the WoS that had a 16 page filter in Mafia LX. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&user=66004Bring that to me.
I know I've been all "I discuss things with marv and we present a unified front", but I actually agree with you here. That line you quoted *REALLY* reads like "Man, we need to work together to construct good posts to make us look better".
Need some fast-paced dialog going on, not constructed bullshit.
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EBWOP: By that I mean, people don't (or at least, much more rarely) don't make mistakes when they have plenty of time to sit back and really scrutinize their posts before they post them. Even doubly so when you have a partner (or potentially 3 partners, in this case) to give them extra looks.
Quick dialog remedies that.
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On March 16 2013 15:53 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Alright, fair points I suppose. It's funny, but if you want to call the way we've been playing so far retreating into a shell, it arguably worked better for us than saying what I think, considering how much I fucking blew it.
I can't say for certain you'll get what you want tomorrow, but you'll get something at least.
To be completely honest, I don't give 2 flying fucks what works better for *you*. I care about what works better for town. And, at this point, since you are very seriously a lynch candidate, that means genuine thoughts and opinions. Not pre-fab bullshit.
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Anyways, I'm going to bed.
G'nite fellas.
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On March 16 2013 17:50 ObliviousEyes wrote:
How am I not surprised that everyone thinks I'm scummy because I make summary posts? I've never played a game where I didn't do it and I've never played a game where I didn't get called out for it eventually. Nobody was happy with my play in LX because it was spammy as shit for the first day and I almost found myself hanging for it.
I looked at the first 2 pages of your filter in LX and didn't find anything similar to the series of posts that I showed here. You were aggressive, somewhat trolly, and in your face. That's not what I'm seeing here at all.
If you can show me posts you think are similar, I'm all ears.
~marv
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Oh and by the way, hapa, the reason i was ranting last night was
1) Dr. P saying he would throw away his vote
2) you making the dumbest, most newbie mistake ever - speculating on N1 nightkill. I've never done this even once in any of my many mafia games, because it's so fucking retarded. You should know it's retarded too.
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On March 16 2013 20:38 ObliviousEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 20:26 FiveTouch wrote:On March 16 2013 17:50 ObliviousEyes wrote:
How am I not surprised that everyone thinks I'm scummy because I make summary posts? I've never played a game where I didn't do it and I've never played a game where I didn't get called out for it eventually. Nobody was happy with my play in LX because it was spammy as shit for the first day and I almost found myself hanging for it. I looked at the first 2 pages of your filter in LX and didn't find anything similar to the series of posts that I showed here. You were aggressive, somewhat trolly, and in your face. That's not what I'm seeing here at all. If you can show me posts you think are similar, I'm all ears. ~marv I'm getting up in Promato's face right now. I just wrote above I wanted to avoid the spammy part in this game as part of being more readable instead of having a filter full of fluff as opposed to last time. As far as being aggressive, if you don't characterize what I'm doing with Promato right now as aggressive and in his face (as opposed to attacking the absent WittyHydraName from D1 which would have been fruitless, or the CastingGolems whose flavor I enjoyed but considered obfuscation, not entirely scummy and they have also decided to drop it at least for now) then I'm not sure how much more aggressive I can get without caps-lock. Do you not find my current actions aggressive? I'm trying to hold up my half of this hydra because not only am I playing for myself, but for VE as well and that's a lot more responsibility than I have had in any game outside of the newbie I replaced in as SK. There are parts of my play it makes sense to cut out like the spam and martyring and this is as good an opportunity as any when it's not just me whose slot goes down the drain based on my actions.
No, this is no ways answers my question. You specifically said you made posts like the one I showed in my case, I said I couldn't find them.
The onus is on you to prove me wrong. Please find me those horrendously wishy washy posts in LX (from day 1), as they are nowhere to be found as far as I can see.
How am I not surprised that everyone thinks I'm scummy because I make summary posts? I've never played a game where I didn't do it
I want to physically see these posts from other games you're talking about.
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On March 17 2013 01:22 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 01:17 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:13 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:11 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:02 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:00 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4 Is this a claim? I think he might be claiming just blue because he hasn't thought of the whole claim yet Well, I had thought I wrote "town" instead of "blue", as I wasn't planning on claiming blue yet. Half asleep brains seems to have had different plans. You could lynch us and find out for sure, as it's only on my word right now, but that wouldn't be very useful for you, now would it? So what are you? Jailkeeper Who did you jail and any crumbs? Jailed you last night. I don't recall any breadcrumbs. I don't think I've ever crumbed anything ever. Reasoning: At the time, Dirk and you were scum team in my mind. Took a guess and jailed you thinking you could be red power role. Also, I'm not sure if scum team has to choose someone to make the shot, so if they do, and if they picked you to make the shot, it wouldn't go through. At the same time, I was considering the possibility that I was wrong. We had made a case about you and Dirk being scum, which many people seemed to agree with. I could easily see a scenario in which scum would want to target you in this case (partially why I was so surprised they shot Dirk since he would have been a free lynch in scum favor).
Err, what? Please, show me these people that agreed with you. The only one I can remember is ObliviousEyes. Everyone else gave at least a minor town read to ObsQT, iirc.
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On March 17 2013 02:19 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 01:56 DrParnassus wrote:
golems, you need to get to sharing reads and being productive asap. we can hash out this JK stuff later You can calm your tits asap. tl;dr calm your tits Current reads: DrParn
FiveTouchMoology Newbie Promato OEParn and FiveTouch feel townie because of activity and reactions to different things. Moo and Newbie I'm leaving null because I'm still not convinced they aren't scum. Newbie less so than Moo, he's been quite active, and the pressure on us I feel is more town motivated than scum jumping on a scummy player. I've noticed that OE has actively avoided making recent reads on us. He always disappears when the focus turns to us. I really want to know what he thinks of us, etc. Prom I've got nothing on. The case on OE certainly works in his favor, but this wouldn't be the first time scum bussed their teammates, especially when the score is 5-2 one cycle in.-S4
This is the same shit you did earlier with ObsQT. Your entire "case" that he is scum revolves around someone else being scum. Except, you're even more non-committal towards it this time.
What do you think about Promato as a player, regardless of any "connections"? What about my post earlier about why I thought Promato was town?
Give some actual thoughts, for once.
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Any reaction to this, Golems?
On March 17 2013 02:51 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:19 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:56 DrParnassus wrote:
golems, you need to get to sharing reads and being productive asap. we can hash out this JK stuff later You can calm your tits asap. tl;dr calm your tits Current reads: DrParn
FiveTouchMoology Newbie Promato OEParn and FiveTouch feel townie because of activity and reactions to different things. Moo and Newbie I'm leaving null because I'm still not convinced they aren't scum. Newbie less so than Moo, he's been quite active, and the pressure on us I feel is more town motivated than scum jumping on a scummy player. I've noticed that OE has actively avoided making recent reads on us. He always disappears when the focus turns to us. I really want to know what he thinks of us, etc. Prom I've got nothing on. The case on OE certainly works in his favor, but this wouldn't be the first time scum bussed their teammates, especially when the score is 5-2 one cycle in.-S4 This is the same shit you did earlier with ObsQT. Your entire "case" that he is scum revolves around someone else being scum. Except, you're even more non-committal towards it this time. What do you think about Promato as a player, regardless of any "connections"? What about my post earlier about why I thought Promato was town? Give some actual thoughts, for once.
You were all up in here pressuring people and calling people out, but don't respond when I pressure you back?
(See how you're doing the same thing you call someone else out for earlier?)
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