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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#421
You're seriously telling me that between two of them they only managed to post twice in 48 hours?

What is this universe I'm living in?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 23:06 GMT
#426
Alright. This analysis should be not too hard. Dirk is probably mafia, and whoever distracted us on to Witty is probably mafia. that's my initial feels, may change upon re-read.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 23:15 GMT
#430
I'll make time tomorrow to re-read everything and decide what I feel went down. I'll also split my time far better towards this game as it'll be night in the other game I'm playing too.

The game is short so I advise everyone to actually re-read the whole day so they have a feel for what went down and how and when.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 23:24 GMT
#433
On March 15 2013 08:18 DrParnassus wrote:
marv u want to say something? I can just feel you trying to sneakily divert supsicion towards hapa and myself, as we were the biggest champions of this lynch. It doesn't take a genius to remember that, and you are acting as if you have no clue who pushed the wittyname lynch yet you're saying that those people are the ones to blame


No, I'd genuinely forgotten it was specifically you, you'll have to understand that I've not been paying enough attention as I should.

I will say you have been my strongest town-read all day, so if you really were the catalyst, I don't think you are mafia.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 14 2013 23:25 GMT
#434
In fact if it was you who actually started the case on Witty, that in many ways makes the game much easier.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 05:58 GMT
#450
Yo, yam: since you're here:

How do you feel about iamp saying earlier that as scum he doesn't like to be in the spotlight...then proceeding to stay out of the spotlight for most of the game?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 06:05 GMT
#453
On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'

Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.

No, its not a loaded question. I wanted some actual thoughts about it.

Do you think he's been intentionally avoiding the spotlight? He has had flashes of his town arrogance, but for the most part has been quiet.

Do you think a scum iamp would basically out himself in the thread like that? I mean, anyone who is familiar with iamp knows that already, but its one thing for everyone to know something, and another thing for you to personally tell them what makes you scum and then...keep doing it.
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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 06:10 GMT
#456
On March 15 2013 15:04 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'

Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.


Iamp/Hapa hydra has a pretty big filter this game though, how can you say that Iamp isnt being in the spotlight?


Iamp has definitely stayed out of the spotlight. At least compared to his normal town persona.

Town iamp is very...outspoken. Like I said, he's done that a few times (particularly him calling out marv early, etc), but its still in much, much, much less frequent than how he normally plays as town. He's been pretty content to just make an occasional, useless comment. Almost all of the actual content is from Hapa.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 06:34 GMT
#460
On March 15 2013 15:18 Promato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:04 DrParnassus wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'

Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.


Iamp/Hapa hydra has a pretty big filter this game though, how can you say that Iamp isnt being in the spotlight?


I just reread that filter, and it's Hapa who is being active, not iamp.

I really don't feel like they're worth pursuing any longer. Hapa does not look disinterested, despite the low activity. Compared to some, he is kind of spammy actually.

Well, I dont think that being spammy in itself is a town tell, but I do think Hapa has been decently interested in the game, and giving some useful insights.

I was kind of like Throats, leaning town on Hapa, leaning scum on iamp. But the WIFOMy iamp thing is enough that I'm pretty okay with them for now.

Now, what does that mean about the big case from Golems about ObsQT?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 06:47 GMT
#464
On March 15 2013 15:37 DrParnassus wrote:
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On March 15 2013 15:34 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:18 Promato wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:04 DrParnassus wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'

Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.


Iamp/Hapa hydra has a pretty big filter this game though, how can you say that Iamp isnt being in the spotlight?


I just reread that filter, and it's Hapa who is being active, not iamp.

I really don't feel like they're worth pursuing any longer. Hapa does not look disinterested, despite the low activity. Compared to some, he is kind of spammy actually.

Well, I dont think that being spammy in itself is a town tell, but I do think Hapa has been decently interested in the game, and giving some useful insights.

I was kind of like Throats, leaning town on Hapa, leaning scum on iamp. But the WIFOMy iamp thing is enough that I'm pretty okay with them for now.

Now, what does that mean about the big case from Golems about ObsQT?


nothing, becuase hapa/iamp are unflipped?

castinggolems #1 townread btw

-tom waits

Of course it means something. If I have reason to believe that someone is town, but someone else makes a case about said person, then judging the case is a good way to decide if either I'm wrong about my read, or if the person could be trying to push an unauthentic case.

FWIW, I feel like some of the points in Golems case are really....reaching. "Soft defending" himself? The quote in question was that he, Hapa, had no reason to look into the rest of the population. He never said "Hey don't look into me because I'm not one of those 3 people", nor did he imply it. Of course he isn't going to look into himself. That's not soft-defending yourself, that's just common sense.

And...basically all the rest of it a connection case between *TWO* unflipped players. The only point he made that actually makes ObsQT scum on his own is the one about "soft defending himself" (which is bullshit anyways). Everything else he wrote 100% falls apart if Dirk isn't scum.

Do explain why they are your #1 town read though, plx.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 13:23 GMT
#499
I'll be in this evening with proper posts, but the dude above me is mafia.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 13:30 GMT
#500
To elaborate on that just a little:

On March 15 2013 22:15 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Not unexpected but probably for the best as he did not seem to be interested at all in playing the game. Let's check up on things tomorrow and see what has happened.

/chaos13


I knew Witty would flip town but I didn't give a shit enough to look for mafia.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 14:55 GMT
#503
lol hapa

no.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 14:57 GMT
#504
or is it iamp? Either way I have no idea what you're babbling about.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 15:05 GMT
#507
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

1) what you're describing isn't my lazy scumplay, it's an outright slip. Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 16:16 GMT
#511
On March 16 2013 01:03 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

1) what you're describing isn't my lazy scumplay, it's an outright slip. Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv


The lynch on Dirk was pure OMGUS, in terms of you are lynching Dirk for being bad.

Seriously do you dont agree with the fact that Dirk is playing like an outed scum? Why would he do that as scum?


Why would he do that as town?

Why would he say he expected Witty to flip town, and if this is the case why didn't he look for a mafia to lynch?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 16:27 GMT
#514
On March 16 2013 01:25 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:30 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv

do you stand by this statement as fact.
ANSWER


yes. apart from that tiny tiny slip no-one found in NMM3 and that you only know about because I told you.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 16:30 GMT
#517
On March 16 2013 01:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:27 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:25 iamperfection wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:30 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv

do you stand by this statement as fact.
ANSWER


yes. apart from that tiny tiny slip no-one found in NMM3 and that you only know about because I told you.

Damn it


yeah bro can we stop this silliness now please?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 17:01 GMT
#519
I'm quite sceptical that iamp is mafia. His case is stupid but it doesn't make him mafia.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 17:08 GMT
#521
On March 16 2013 00:26 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 18:51 Moology wrote:
Now (Essentially a last will)

My concerns are currently with the following teams

(1) Golems - They seem to have listened to feedback. I want to see a bit more from them before deciding which side of null they are going. But it is a positive from less experienced players to take criticisms on board.

(2) Newbie - They are Jeckyl/Hyde so far. I think they need to be scrutinsed Day2, to get some consistency between the two haeds. Right now the lack of consistency makes them essentially unreadable (i.e. a very confused read) sitting at very slightly leaning town.

(3) Promato - Im just scared of lurkers in general after the loss in Mafia LX. These guys have given reasons for the low activity so I expect HIGH QUALITY with small doses. Not getting that so far; they are my sleeper pick for scum. Yams recent list post was... *meh* bunch of wishy-washy reads. Which is fine and all - considering the lack of activity; but why bother to post it? Like i said, if you want to post less fine; but the quality needs to be there.

(4) Hardpec - I am in agreement with Omni here. And I dont care Oats that you disagree. If hes not a strong town read, dont step in. And certainly @ night, do not expect a case.

Hardpec + Promato are my current picks to follow through with on Day2

(4 1/2) VE - I am throwing him in purely because hes not as active as I have come to expect from recent town VE + Normally he uimms/ahhs a fuck ton before lynch - and we not getting that this game.

Seriously Oats; dont fuckn cock-block me again when trying to pressure someone. Unless they are a fuckn probably town read for you; you have no reason to not be interested in the interaction. And so far, you have shown nothing that indicates Hardpec is a probably town read for you.

==============

This is probably going to be my last post for the cycle. Going out tonight, and deadline is 7am on a Saturday => i will miss it.

(moc)

Cool list post Mocsta.
And for the record, I'm offended FOR Soniv, since he's been playing and has played LONG before you were around IIRC. Blame the 'taking criticism,' and 'less experienced' on me imo, but don't for a second assume that my better half doesn't know exactly what's going on.
Also I never quite understood your tendency to post last wills, especially since they always seem to occur on nights where you're not likely to be targeted.

-Wave


Healthy egocentricity. He's doing it for that time when he has become a goliath and is a regular early NK target. A fine ambition.
Artanis & marv
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