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On March 15 2013 02:12 ObliviousEyes wrote:
Okay so I woke up, saw Dirk spamming some more, and decided that yeah, I think I wanna kill it. He's actively trying to keep us from scumhunting. ACTIVELY. There's purpose in the way he's posting, and it's not a town purpose.
The way I see it is: do we lynch a lurker with literally nothing relevant in his filter? Or do we lynch someone who is actively not trying to find scum? Again he makes it seem as though he thinks marv is scum, and again has failed to provide any kind of reasoning beyond "he's a big ol' meanie". If his spam "marv is scum" post can be believed, he seems to think marv is scum. So why not try and get marv lynched? Both Bugs AND Palmar (AND syllo if he's all up in there too) know that "marv is scum" isn't going to sway anyone.
Kill Dirk. He gots to be scum yo.
adam/snarfs is scum. this cannot be disputed. why are you trying to dispute it?
-hungover thrawn
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On March 15 2013 02:12 ObliviousEyes wrote:
Okay so I woke up, saw Dirk spamming some more, and decided that yeah, I think I wanna kill it. He's actively trying to keep us from scumhunting. ACTIVELY. There's purpose in the way he's posting, and it's not a town purpose.
The way I see it is: do we lynch a lurker with literally nothing relevant in his filter? Or do we lynch someone who is actively not trying to find scum? Again he makes it seem as though he thinks marv is scum, and again has failed to provide any kind of reasoning beyond "he's a big ol' meanie". If his spam "marv is scum" post can be believed, he seems to think marv is scum. So why not try and get marv lynched? Both Bugs AND Palmar (AND syllo if he's all up in there too) know that "marv is scum" isn't going to sway anyone.
Kill Dirk. He gots to be scum yo.
-wittyhydraname has nothing relevant in his filter
I strongly disagree with this. Imo it's not just a lurker lynch. There are good reasons outside of the lurking for why they're scum. See this post.
-we should lynch the person who isn't trying to find scum
and wittyhydraname is trying to find scum? despite how shitty the effort has been, dirk has still made more of an effort to "make a case" than wittyname has. The case may be lacking in content, extremely focused on 1 particular aspect of marv's play, and all around silly.... but it's still much more than wittyname has provided, which is nothing.
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On March 15 2013 05:52 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
But yah, Witty dies today. Then one of Caster/Dirk tomorrow (I'd prefer Caster). Then the other.
Then sweet victory.
~Hapa
r u scum? you really can't see anyone being scum other than those two?
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like, i'll admit that they are the obvious lynch candidates. but really hapa? you are the person who asks for never-ending majority lynch cycles, just to make sure that scum gets lynched. earlier this game you were telling me that I was being too hasty about calling wittyname and castinggolems scum and that we have enough time to figure things out... what makes you so sure now?
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*never ending instant majority lynch cycles
-all this be thrawn btw
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On March 15 2013 06:43 TLCastingGolems wrote:Newbie doubts our absence, Wave! I'm not sure what to tell him. Call it coincidence or just plain unlucky, but we both had a bunch of crap going on, and neither of us could get to a computer. If he wants to look back at Mafia LX, he can see that your schedule, Soniv, can be quite restrictive at times. Mine generally isn't too bad, but that doesn't take the business factor of my life out of it. He also says we shouldn't "game absences". I don't really know where he's going with that. I assume that he means we shouldn't try to take advantage of a Witty modkill. I don't quite understand why though, so maybe he can explain it for us a bit better. As for Moology, I would say he's somewhat null leaning red right now. Can you explain for our viewers why, Wave? I would love to! Through reading, there was one post that jumped out at us. **INSTANT REPLAY + Show Spoiler +On March 14 2013 08:35 Moology wrote:Guys Moc is back. I pretty pissed Omni hasnt shown his face at all.
Considering Drik Hardpec might be 1 man up with Syllo; I am happy to take a replacement out of Palmar, Bugs, Syllo  ============== I really don't like this post from TLCastingGolems (but will oblige) Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well Soniv it's coming down to the halfway point of Day 1 and what have we got to show for it?
Honestly it doesn't seem much, Wave. The town has seemingly decided between voting for who annoys them the most; either us for 'casting style' and perceived inactivity and lack of giving them the precise analyses they want, or Dirk Hardpec for doing...well...nothing! I don't know about you, Wave, but this doesn't seem like a town who is keen to scumhunt to me, rather they're quick to jump on easy sheep targets for simple reasons.
Let 'em think what they want, Soniv. They'll come around eventually, I have faith in them. A few recent developments for those still catching up, DrParnassus is an angry guy, Promato's disappearance looking fishy, and ObliviousEyes coming to our defense somewhat.
Oh, but those aren't READS, Wave. We might make someone angry!
Too true. In that case, having a look at NewbieXXXI_Obs Cutie, despite the fact that he has aggressively been pushing for our lynch, actually looks pretty good right now. Gives analysis on major occurrences including the earlier Day 1 'fight' between Parnassus and Moology, and calls out his current scummy looking targets. Parnassus, on the other hand, accuses us of shit-flinging yet directly after this he flings his own at other members of the thread, including a post meaning to 'direct our attention' to WittyHydraName. No support, no real purpose. Fivetouch makes some comment which Parnassus immediately +1s. If I didn't know better I would think the earlier shit-flinging fight Parnassus had with Moology was specifically staged to make the both of them look town, which most people seem to suspect of them. Since our vote is still on Moology right now, I think it's time to hear from the experts' desk; we're going to pass it off to Moology.
Moology, any thoughts regarding your performance last night, or the current voting trends? Current voting trends looks like everyone is feeling each other out. Hardpec definitely comes across as trolling And Prome is giving us early promises of low activity (I am in the same boat as him.. but still making an effort) Snarfs/Adams have flown under the radar for me; if they dont contribute by closer to lynch will prob vote them. - Especially because they dont have multiple ongoing games to hide behind. Otherwise for today I am stuck between the trolling of hardpec and aggressiveness of Marv. Marv normally tries to exert himself as town leader, and is actively trying to walk through with people his thought process. This marv is setting up a dictatorship of no tolerance.. and its a marv i havnt seen before. (Kei done fuck all from what I read) ##UnvoteI want to discuss the situation with my other head before issuing a vote with intent to lynch. If Omni is not present in the next 8-10hrs, I will make the decision for him. ==================== The reason I dont like the post above, is because ONCE AGAIN, the castingteam summarise the situation and when it comes to the meat and veg, they pass it off to someone else. Yes, teh flavour is cute, but the strategy is preventing them from being accountableI am actually surprised Promato was supportive of this (justifying them as newbies not expected to contribute).. thats bullshit.You sign up with the big boys, your contributions are just as expected. I dont want to be stuck at LYLO with another "Grush57". (moc) Moo claims that he dislikes the post we made and yet he'll oblige us, and then unvotes us immediately. Maybe Moology can clarify whether that was meant to just discredit us or he thinks that we are scum. I know a few people wouldn't mind killing us tomorrow, but Moo hasn't seemed to take a completely solid stance on it yet. Anything else, Soniv? Well, looking through again, he called out a few players who dislike the limelight as a scum player. He called me out, but I'm not really sure why. I haven't played scum in probably over a year, and even at that, I've only been scum maybe two or three times. So I'm not really sure where he was going at that (again, maybe just sowing seeds to discredit), and I'd like some clarity on that.
who wrote this post? one of you? both?
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really, please just drop the act. it's a fucking headache
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On March 15 2013 07:00 FiveTouch wrote:
I honestly don't have any trouble following his posts. And I enjoy the roleplaying in general. I just don't feel like they've added much because they've been too focused on their "style" rather than playing mafia.
~Keir
the problem is that there are things that I would interpret differently depending on who wrote it. they are co-authoring each post or something... yet there are even posts that look like they've been co-authored, but I actually suspect that one person wrote the post attempting to make it look co-authored. all in all there's just no reason for it other than humor, but that effect has already worn off. now it's just frustrating
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On March 15 2013 07:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Some people are growing frustrated while others enjoy the flavor. Just goes to show that you can't please everyone, Soniv!
Indeed that's the case, and I say "tough cookies!" Newbie has still yet to explain why it would be a poor idea to take advantage of someone most everyone sees being scummy being modkilled, or "gaming the absence" as he says.
how many games have you played where a player gets modkilled on D1 for not voting.... it rarely happens. we have no possible way of knowing what the mods will do so if we think he's scum then we should lynch him.... it seems like you're being intentionally thick about this point
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oh my god if adam/snarfs doesn't get lynched i am letting oats play out the remainder of the game
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why would promato even vote at this point is what i'm wondering.. it's pretty clear that witty was going to be lynched without promato's help
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lol that's so depressing... but i think i'm actually glad, because the game just got 10x more interesting
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marv u want to say something? I can just feel you trying to sneakily divert supsicion towards hapa and myself, as we were the biggest champions of this lynch. It doesn't take a genius to remember that, and you are acting as if you have no clue who pushed the wittyname lynch yet you're saying that those people are the ones to blame
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i think i might lurk the rest of this cycle.... it's the uncertainty principle or something like that. interacting with the thread inevitably changes everyone else's play potentially making your reads all the less accurate. it shouldn't be an issue, cuz i'm obv town.
thrawn.
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oh, one last fun fact. the average player this game had about .94 pages of filter in D1 (roughly 17 pages of d1 / 18 players)
let this D1 lynch be a lesson to any of the other lurkers who may be town
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SO your scumreads are Iamp/Hapa and no one else? What do you think about Iamp, as opposed to hapa?
Like you are flipflopping throughout the whole thing. Why not filter VE/OO if you intend on posting a list of reads of all the players?
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On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'
Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.
Iamp/Hapa hydra has a pretty big filter this game though, how can you say that Iamp isnt being in the spotlight?
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i'm sorry i know i said i wouldn't post...
i have a mildly strong town read on hapa and a strong scum read on iamp
so there's that
-bionic vapor boy
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