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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2013 23:59 GMT
#527
Ehhh, read Jay's "bus" of Xatalos Day 1 in Dessert Mini Mafia. Feels very very different.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 07:28 GMT
#555
y no one talk =(

Why do Artanis and Mr.CC not care about the town?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 07:49 GMT
#557
But I gotta sleep =/

Just read-dump. I have no idea where you stand right now.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 15:43 GMT
#562
@ Artanis
What's changed in these times? You've made a full 180 and you haven't said why. You haven't contributed to town other than telling your reads when prompted, you've been a lot less active than you have in your previous games, and your filter is pretty bad. Given I don't see scum elsewhere Cheesecake is my current top suspect. No reasoning for read changes, and is playing a jovial game which contradicts his recent town game.


Can you explain this one to me (bolded)? I generally equate jovial to townie, especially with Mr.CC.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#570
On March 08 2013 01:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, you obviously haven't read any of my town games lol.

If you're wondering about my read change on you, meh. I initially thought you were town because Hapa was willing to give his left nut betting you were town LEFT NUT SIR.

Your posting about Jay was nearly nonexistent, and only really mentioned him at the end when things were looking bad. You were very non-commital in a stance, and simply "wanted to see more from him". The fact that your voting me suggests you need an easy mislynch (which, as scum, I wouldn't blame you)

Thrawn is most likely town, whoever is voting him right now is stupid. Jay was 'tunneling' Vivax, and then switched to Thrawn ASAP with zero reasoning when he was receiving like 1 vote. He''s my second town read with obvHapa.


@Prom

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 04:45 Promethelax wrote:
On March 06 2013 04:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 06 2013 04:38 Promethelax wrote:
On March 06 2013 04:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Just to give a scummy little list here I think Hapa, Dr.H, Dandel, Artanis and myself are town. Thrawn kinda null but he's cool atm.

I'll lynch me a Vivax, Prom, or Jay today. I'll throw a dart at a board and see which one I hit.


i mostly agree with this


points for a useless post during non-useless posting time. I like my vote right where it is.
Which parts do you agree with and which do you not agree with? Mostly is fucking unhelpful.


i agree with all the reads. mostly.

and did that post really make you think I'm scum? i am not buying it


no, your non-committal sheeping of a weak town player gave me strong town vibes...


How you know I'm town?

Dandel. I know you're sexy but

##Vote: Dandel Ion


^ Expound on this


Wait... what @ Dandel vote
Is that a joke or a troll?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 16:18 GMT
#574
Also CC, I really hate "OMG SCUMSLIP" arguments. They're terrible and unreliable.

You seem to think Prome is scum. What other rationale do you have for it?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 16:27 GMT
#578
On March 08 2013 01:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Also CC, I really hate "OMG SCUMSLIP" arguments. They're terrible and unreliable.

You seem to think Prome is scum. What other rationale do you have for it?


So is Prom's reasoning that sheeping weak townreads gives strong town vibes.

...


Touche.

However I just need to hear more from CC. I don't have any reason to think he's town right now - CC's been useless and lurky, and I know he's more than capable of being an active presence as town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 16:32 GMT
#585
On March 08 2013 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:27 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:21 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Also CC, I really hate "OMG SCUMSLIP" arguments. They're terrible and unreliable.

You seem to think Prome is scum. What other rationale do you have for it?


So is Prom's reasoning that sheeping weak townreads gives strong town vibes.

...


Touche.

However I just need to hear more from CC. I don't have any reason to think he's town right now - CC's been useless and lurky, and I know he's more than capable of being an active presence as town.


*Sigh* of all the people here Hapa, you should know I'm town (Barring the scum guy left). Do you REALLY think I voted Jay first and just let him die as his scummate? C'mon.


Possibly. Jay looked pretty terrible throughout the day, and your initial vote wasn't serious at all (you justified it LATER after everyone jumped him).

Fact is, you're a shell of the townie persona I've seen in other games we've been together.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 16:54 GMT
#591
Who do you think is most likely to flip scum at this point CC?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 17:23 GMT
#611
On March 08 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
Artanis drop the game preserve your honour. No one will call you and jay bad you were just scum at the wrong time in the wrong place in a game format that's superhard even for the best scum players

What you're doing with CC right now looks fake.

Hold my hand and I'll lead you to the gallows we will spare your family if you accept the terms.


Vivax... what are you doing? You have your vote on Dandel and you're telling Artanis to resign...
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 17:30 GMT
#621
Is that the hammer?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 17:31 GMT
#625
##Vote Artanis
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 17:33 GMT
#631
I counted 4?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 07 2013 17:34 GMT
#633
oh fuck. Sorry.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 08 2013 04:49 GMT
#642
G_G
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 08 2013 23:38 GMT
#756
GG

Rebel Scum
03-05-2013
11:58 PM ET (US)
im playing the sad townie. If it works when i come back tmw and start posting they will all give me a break


Whooooops.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 08 2013 23:51 GMT
#761
On March 09 2013 08:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
i knew artanis looked too townie.

dandel still sexy

how anyone thought i would bus jay like that, i dontknw


Kinda looked like Jay had given up, therefore it would have made sense for a teammate to bus him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 08 2013 23:56 GMT
#764
Speaking of which... this town was waaaaaay too trigger happy. Even the Day 1 lynch wasn't so good. Time is a huge asset for town, and we didn't take enough advantage of it. In the current case, we hammered two guys before the entire town could give their thoughts on the lynch, which deprived us of a ton of info.

Fortunately things ended well, but that doesn't change the fact that lynches should never be rushed like that in this type of format. ESPECIALLY with the silent night setup.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 00:11:54
March 09 2013 00:09 GMT
#767
On March 09 2013 09:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When things go on too long townies start second guessing and you end up with split wagons. I was fine the way Day 1 ended, jay clearly had p much given up on defending himself and going too much longer could have ended up in the death of Vivax or Artanis that day.


I've played a bunch instant-lynch mini's, and I've never ran into that problem. A deliberately long Day 1 almost always sets up really well for the rest of the game.

In fact you want townies to be second-guessing themselves, because quite often you'll have a townie on the lynch-block. Fast, emotional decisions are too much of a coin-flip.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 09 2013 00:25 GMT
#772
On March 09 2013 09:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've played few minis so I'll take your word on that. I tend to get less confident over time. My early reads are usually the most accurate.


Yeah the funny thing about long days is that instead of being this long, indecisive circle of reads, there reaches a point (about 72 hours in) where townies just go "fuck it, let's just kill someone." Far from being indecisive, a town will be very decisive later in a day just for the sake of moving on. While on the surface it sounds like a bad thing, it's at that point that you can get so much information about player mentalities.

A long day also puts an incredible amount of pressure on scum to keep their interest in the thread. You can really grind down a scum-player with a long day, to the point where their diminished interest level will become pretty obvious.

tl;dr - masochism is a winning strategy
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