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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#111
Sigh. I am sad Thrawn. I am sad.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 01:55 GMT
#112
Does anyone else want to confess to not reading their Role PM?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 01:57 GMT
#114
awwww :3

Can you do me a favor and open your role PM and tell me what u are? I will see through your LIES
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 02:09 GMT
#118
Jeezus I can't believe I clicked through all of that.

Anyway off to play some CS:GO. Be back tonight, and hopefully we can get some more participants.

If y'all enter the thread have nothing to discuss, express your hatred for lurkers and we'll get along pretty well =)
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 14:41 GMT
#143
On March 05 2013 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
You never had the balls. I KNEW IT!

Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news.

what makes you think that?


Why not? A bunch of people were super-eager to get things started and did wild things without thinking of their reputation. It's a townie circle-jerk until someone proves otherwise.

If you're convinced this easily then I'm not sure I'm going to be too confident in your ability to find scum. Tell me Hapa, is this comment serious? I've seen plenty of mafia games that start out in a joking way and I don't see why it wouldn't be very easy for scum to do so.


This is just about what I gathered from the proceedings:
Dr.H (WELP)
Dandel Ion
Mr.CC
Thrawn (admitted to not reading his role PM at the time)

So obviously the comment doesn't apply as much with Thrawn's admission, but I still stick by my stances on Dandel and Mr.CC. I perceive Dandel to be too fearless to be scum, and Dr.H (a vet player who he doesn't know) is a pretty brave target for a joke-bandwagon. Smacks of fearlessness and "not-giving-a-shit" about his image, hence he's town.

Mr.CC just seemed townie with the light-heartedness of his posts. He also made me laugh a couple of times.

Mafia's a simple game really.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:14 GMT
#154
On March 05 2013 23:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
You never had the balls. I KNEW IT!

Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news.

what makes you think that?


Why not? A bunch of people were super-eager to get things started and did wild things without thinking of their reputation. It's a townie circle-jerk until someone proves otherwise.

If you're convinced this easily then I'm not sure I'm going to be too confident in your ability to find scum. Tell me Hapa, is this comment serious? I've seen plenty of mafia games that start out in a joking way and I don't see why it wouldn't be very easy for scum to do so.


This is just about what I gathered from the proceedings:
Dr.H (WELP)
Dandel Ion
Mr.CC
Thrawn (admitted to not reading his role PM at the time)

So obviously the comment doesn't apply as much with Thrawn's admission, but I still stick by my stances on Dandel and Mr.CC. I perceive Dandel to be too fearless to be scum, and Dr.H (a vet player who he doesn't know) is a pretty brave target for a joke-bandwagon. Smacks of fearlessness and "not-giving-a-shit" about his image, hence he's town.

Mr.CC just seemed townie with the light-heartedness of his posts. He also made me laugh a couple of times.

Mafia's a simple game really.

Dr. H has been 'cleared' only because he claimed blue, not because of the banter. I agree on your Dandel read; he seems aggressive and willing to take action, but I wouldn't colour him as green as you have. How you can call Mr. CC as anything above null is beyond me. He's barely posted anything.

Also, fwiw, I didn't read my role until after I already commented on your post. I was going to bus you if we turned out to be in a scumteam :<


I'd be pretty impressed if I did what I did as scum tbh. It would be quite an improvement from past games :3
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:17 GMT
#155
On March 06 2013 00:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:
Well it's this overall impression I have of you, not just that.

If you answered that you thought him to be scum I would have mentioned the reasons for why I think he's town. That's why I asked you if you thought him to be scum.

Since you said you doubt him to be scum I see no reason to mention the reasons for why I think he's town. I still have my reasons for my townread pasted in a document to be posted later if it need be. But I don't see a reason to defend anyone when he's not in danger.

If you're town then just play like you're town and I might or might not change my opinion about you. Discussing my impression of you is not going to be productive. Try to find some useful information on your own instead.

So you're hiding information about why you think Hapa is town (aka town tells), yet you consider him town for giving town tells. Which means that either you think Hapa is town for doing something anti-town, or you're being purposefully anti-town. Please do tell me if I'm missing a third option here because I don't see it.

As for finding useful information on my own; there's precious little to go off in the thread so far other than the post I quoted before. We could talk about Dr.H's blueclaim but I don't see that going in any useful direction, nor all the joke votes that have been thrown around. Hapa's recent post doesn't really give me a lot.

Hapa, why do you consider Cheesecake a town read? Do you have any current scumreads?


Uh did I not just talk about that an hour ago?

On March 05 2013 23:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
You never had the balls. I KNEW IT!

Ok ok anyway our little circle-jerk here is probably town. That's the good news.

what makes you think that?


Why not? A bunch of people were super-eager to get things started and did wild things without thinking of their reputation. It's a townie circle-jerk until someone proves otherwise.

If you're convinced this easily then I'm not sure I'm going to be too confident in your ability to find scum. Tell me Hapa, is this comment serious? I've seen plenty of mafia games that start out in a joking way and I don't see why it wouldn't be very easy for scum to do so.


This is just about what I gathered from the proceedings:
Dr.H (WELP)
Dandel Ion
Mr.CC
Thrawn (admitted to not reading his role PM at the time)

So obviously the comment doesn't apply as much with Thrawn's admission, but I still stick by my stances on Dandel and Mr.CC. I perceive Dandel to be too fearless to be scum, and Dr.H (a vet player who he doesn't know) is a pretty brave target for a joke-bandwagon. Smacks of fearlessness and "not-giving-a-shit" about his image, hence he's town.

Mr.CC just seemed townie with the light-heartedness of his posts. He also made me laugh a couple of times.

Mafia's a simple game really.


I've played 3 or 4 games with him so I have a pretty good feel for how he plays. Admittedly I haven't looked through his latest scumgame (Nomination Mafia, in which he apparently played pretty well), which I need to do some time today. Otherwise, his attitude suggests townie CC.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:27 GMT
#156
As for scumreads, the closest thing I have to a scumread is Prome right now, because his entrance to the thread was really underwhelming. He has four posts with no information of consequence, and a lot of those posts piggy-back off of observations already made in the thread.

On March 05 2013 23:35 Promethelax wrote:
1)Hapa: talk to me about thrawn's early game. I expect stupid trolly bullshit from Dan and CC but Thrawn seems much too content to lynch DrH early. What is it that gives you early town vibes from thrawn?

2)CC: why are you so insistent on getting the second blue to claim? you say that we'll have the advantage of another confirmed town but does that really outweigh the advantages of having a blue role who can actually do things without being murdered in the face?

3)Jay; whatever happened to your policy lynch vivax pre game plan?


1) Shows that he's not reading the thread carefully. If he did, he'd know that Thrawn admitted to not reading his role PM.
2) Again not reading the thread. CC/Dandel explained their reasoning pretty clearly for this.
3) This is just the point that Artanis made.

Overall Prome's play so far feels like my own scum-play. Walk in, ask a bunch of questions to look like you're active/spammy/contributing, then waltz out.

Prome seems to indicate here that he didn't read his role-PM, but I think it's a lie, since I've never seen him do something similar before, and he says so in the most indirect way possible.
On March 05 2013 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:51 Promethelax wrote:
Did anyone read their role pm?

I did after my accusation of hapa. The PM was painfully short and without pretty colours. It was dissapointing.


oh. I see what you mean. Well I know my role now. Good.

Vivax, you don't think Hapa is scum. You have a vote on jay for being best mislynch NA. Who do you think is scum?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:32 GMT
#157
As for the Artanis/Vivax fight going on, the only thing I've drawn from it so far is that Artanis seems pretty townie. He's asking good questions, trying to start discussion, and overall feels very genuine. He has only one scum-game in the TL Mafia Database in which he was captain-king lurker on a quick readthrough, though I'll have to double check this.

As for Vivax, meh. Aggressive so far, but he does that regardless of alignment. His tunnel on Artanis seems forced, but that's as with anything on Day 1. Curious to see where he takes it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:44 GMT
#159
On March 05 2013 22:10 Vivax wrote:
I'm FoSing you Artanis.

Your play looks forced.


Huh wait. Since when do you FoS people?

Last I played with you (Normal Mini IV), you weren't afraid at all to throw your vote around on people you wanted answers from in the early game. I don't remember seeing it in other games either. It doesn't seem like you're scared to throw around your vote in general (due to your "joke" vote on Jay)...
On March 05 2013 16:32 Vivax wrote:
It's abut 8:30 AM here and I'm about to move out. I support a jay lynch for the time being until I see something that convinces me otherwise.

##Vote jaybrundage

Best mislynch NA


... so what gives? You're voting someone for mysterious policy reasons, and pursuing your scumreads elsewhere. It doesn't look like you care about your vote, and your FoS looks like a neutered version of the pressure I've seen from you as town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:54 GMT
#165
On March 06 2013 01:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
hmm I like my vote where it is


Mind giving me the specifics?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 16:54 GMT
#166
Why Jay? Don't lynch cute Mr. JayJay yet =(

He must be handled with love.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:05 GMT
#173
First of all as a matter of policy I don't want to lynch Jay today unless someone gives me a really good reason to. He's like the prime candidate for scum to be pushing in this player lineup, and I want to give him ample time in the game.

Jay is very readable if you give him the time to show his colors.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#175
Idunno. I'm just in a really silly mood for some reason.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#176
And as for the CC thing, it's mostly a feel-based read since we've played so many games together. Not a satisfying explanation to those outside the circle, but I'm pretty comfortable with it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:24 GMT
#182
Oh Artanis, to double check, have you played any games as mafia since Haunted Mafia?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:28 GMT
#186
Can you get to this when you can Prome? Thaaaaaanks =)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400346&currentpage=8#156
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:31 GMT
#188
That is a hilariously stupid vote Prome

Who else thinks that I could possibly be scum? Curious.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:36 GMT
#192
Ok ok I need to stop being a dick, since you do deserve a serious response.

Firstly, how am I not pressuring people? I'd like to think I have some pretty damn good reasons to be suspicious of yourself and Vivax right now. Also I can't really pressure anyone if they're not responding to my questions.

So plz respond to my pressure so I can poke you some more.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 05 2013 17:44 GMT
#195
@ Thrawn

Patience patience. Prome has a history of believing I'm scum when I'm town, and believing I'm town when I'm scum.

Also, I hold my vote in fairly high regard in instant-lynch games. When I vote someone, I generally want them dead.

@ Prome
On March 06 2013 02:34 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 01:27 Hapahauli wrote:
As for scumreads, the closest thing I have to a scumread is Prome right now, because his entrance to the thread was really underwhelming. He has four posts with no information of consequence, and a lot of those posts piggy-back off of observations already made in the thread.

On March 05 2013 23:35 Promethelax wrote:
1)Hapa: talk to me about thrawn's early game. I expect stupid trolly bullshit from Dan and CC but Thrawn seems much too content to lynch DrH early. What is it that gives you early town vibes from thrawn?

2)CC: why are you so insistent on getting the second blue to claim? you say that we'll have the advantage of another confirmed town but does that really outweigh the advantages of having a blue role who can actually do things without being murdered in the face?

3)Jay; whatever happened to your policy lynch vivax pre game plan?


1) Shows that he's not reading the thread carefully. If he did, he'd know that Thrawn admitted to not reading his role PM.
2) Again not reading the thread. CC/Dandel explained their reasoning pretty clearly for this.
3) This is just the point that Artanis made.

Overall Prome's play so far feels like my own scum-play. Walk in, ask a bunch of questions to look like you're active/spammy/contributing, then waltz out.

Prome seems to indicate here that he didn't read his role-PM, but I think it's a lie, since I've never seen him do something similar before, and he says so in the most indirect way possible.
On March 05 2013 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:51 Promethelax wrote:
Did anyone read their role pm?

I did after my accusation of hapa. The PM was painfully short and without pretty colours. It was dissapointing.


oh. I see what you mean. Well I know my role now. Good.

Vivax, you don't think Hapa is scum. You have a vote on jay for being best mislynch NA. Who do you think is scum?


1) but how you read thrawn's actions still helps me (as I just mentioned)
2) pretty sure I saw CC mention a second blue claim that wasn't the HoP but I was wrong. I'm dumb, carry on.
3) no, Artanis was talking about the marv policy lynch as is obvious if you actually read the thread. Y so sucm?


1) Not really. I called him town before he admitted so, and then I expressed my infinite sadness. You should be able to piece together the puzzle from that.
2) Yep.
3) Touche. Misread that for "marv policy lynch" for some reason. HOWEVER, how on god's green earth is Jay's clearly not-srs policy lynch pre-game proposal on Vivax at all relevant to the game or Jay's allignment? Hell he even retracted it in favor of a marv one :3
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