Personality Mafia 2

On March 11 2013 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the reason I stated in my post originally voting for him - because I hadn't filtered him.

On March 12 2013 00:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why do you feel like you get to tell me what to do?

##Vote: Dandel Ion

On March 12 2013 01:11 HiroPro wrote:
im on my phone so i cant quote so you guys will have to look at it yourself. There seems to be a lot of opposition to the Stutters lynch based on the fact that people think he always plays like this. Look ay the two games that people hacve brougght up. In both yet normal and lix hee offers explanations and makes reads. There is some level of effforty to engage with the thread. He may be inactive in those but he shows some level of intereest in what is going on. In this game has not offrred a single opinion on anyone beyond "hiro isnt traitor". I dont see any reasonkng for anthing he says or any genuine interest at all. Lynch this man.

On March 12 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:


twice now i've seen you use 'guaranteed'. Why is it guaranteed?

On March 12 2013 01:28 HiroPro wrote:


If yiu have some great reason thent ell me what it is because i have not see anything from you on why crossifire is mafia. Quote me posts please for stutters mtg it is such a pain to go through on my phone.

On March 12 2013 01:29 marvellosity wrote:


... no. I did just go back and skim Stutters' filter in Themed by the way. Just like LIX there's evidence of critical thought that isn't in this game, e.g.

On March 12 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote:


because there are a lot of viable targets. and what you said about Stutters simply isn't true.

On March 12 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:


who said I was arguing against a Crossfire lynch? You've done nothing to convince anyone that Crossfire is necessarily a better target than anyone else. Why not slOosh if we're going down the pure meta route?

On March 12 2013 01:42 marvellosity wrote:


yup, antagonise, that'll win people over to your lynch. grow up.

On March 12 2013 01:48 Promethelax wrote:
Dear master Dan
what is your plan
why call Xfire so sure
like many others he is a blur
what makes him out from the crowd stand?

On March 12 2013 01:48 Promethelax wrote:
Dear master Dan
what is your plan
why call Xfire so sure
like many others he is a blur
what makes him out from the crowd stand?

On March 12 2013 01:48 Promethelax wrote:
Dear master Dan
what is your plan
why call Xfire so sure
like many others he is a blur
what makes him out from the crowd stand?

On March 12 2013 01:48 Promethelax wrote:
Dear master Dan
what is your plan
why call Xfire so sure
like many others he is a blur
what makes him out from the crowd stand?

On March 12 2013 01:59 Promethelax wrote:


perhaps you misunderstand
Xfire's not the best man
his posting is useless on it I have studied comprehensive
so while he makes me apprehensive
it is quite possible this isn't his scam.

There are many posters who have not added a thing
why is it that X makes your scum bells ring?
I say look to Fool, ver and sloosh
why is X the one you think is a douche?
or is your operation a sting?

On March 12 2013 02:08 marvellosity wrote:


I've been sufficiently dickish, have I? ^^

On March 12 2013 02:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh, and Marvello is town.

I'll let that simmer through.

On March 12 2013 11:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
So current wagons are bugs cross and yamato?

yam shouldn't even be up there
bugs should be shot, that's how you clean out the trash.

Cross still best lynch, and nobody trying to convince otherwise.

Which means it's shenanigan time.
Why are they not happening?

On March 12 2013 11:42 Promethelax wrote:


vote for wbg
don't sheep a vet sheep me
he is scum
don't play dumb
I'll let you off scott free

On March 12 2013 11:47 marvellosity wrote:
so how about dat Vivax lynch?

On March 12 2013 11:52 Acrofales wrote:
Marv, I am not sheeping you onto a last-10-minute bandwagon. Screw that shit. Explain why Vivax is scum.

On March 12 2013 11:53 marvellosity wrote:


this! it's a cold day in hell when i'm allied with dandel

On March 12 2013 11:57 Crossfire99 wrote:
so wbg is at 8 votes and vivax 3. If I switch it is 7 and 4, but that's still not enough.

On March 12 2013 22:13 Acrofales wrote:
Read back up to page 25, this time taking notes. Will be catching up today and you'll have all my thoughts by the end of the day.

For now I can say that Vivax entered the thread in an extremely wishy washy manner. Seemed like he wanted to lynch lurkers, but was afraid of saying so. This seems completely out of wack with his town meta, where he ALWAYS says whatever he wants.

Supersoft also tried his hardest to not step on anybody's toes. He "agreed" with Iamp's post, but when questioned about it, disagreed with calling VE scum. Effectively that means he disagreed with Iamp's post.

Also, a little bit about the lynch: if Vivax is scum, then there is almost guaranteed to be scum who refused to leave the WBG wagon. If he's town, then it's completely up in the air where scum ended up. Given what I think of Vivax's entry into the thread, I like the Vivax=scum theory. I will pay special attention to this list: Oatsmaster, Mocsta, austinmcc, iamperfection and prplhz.

Heading to the office. Will continue reading and analysing there.

On March 12 2013 07:27 Acrofales wrote:
Fine. My flight's boarding and browsing your filter it is looking like duel D1.

I like that last post showing how differently bugs plays as town from his useless defeatist attitude this game, and my vote on Ver is going nowhere. I'll get back to that tomorrow. When I get home I hope I can make a better reasoned out vote, but for now:

BAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAA

##vote wherebugsgo

On March 12 2013 11:52 Acrofales wrote:
Marv, I am not sheeping you onto a last-10-minute bandwagon. Screw that shit. Explain why Vivax is scum.

On March 12 2013 12:00 Acrofales wrote:
Sticking with Bugs.

On March 12 2013 23:18 Acrofales wrote:


I think it was perfectly clear. I got home half an hour before the lynch and there were 10 more pages, on top of the 25 I hadn't read yet. No way can I read 35 pages in enough depth to get a read on the game in half an hour. I had some idea of how Bugs was playing earlier and then when he martyred himself I didn't much like that. I also had a town read on Marv, so I just sheeped that vote.

Then 10 minutes before the lynch people start wagoning a guy I had not paid much attention to at all. The reason Marv gave for not wanting to lynch WBG anymore was stupid (3P without any real evidence... and the 3P reads were all wrong, because neither bugs' role, nor the role he thought he had were anything to do with jester). So yeah, I stuck with the wagon I knew, rather than just throwing my vote on someone I hadn't analysed at all and had no clue about his alignment other than what Marv was telling me.

As for me being on my own list. Fine, I'll analyse me: looks at role pm. I'm town! Analysis over.

On March 12 2013 23:19 austinmcc wrote:
marv, let's argue.

It seems like every time you think someone who is well-respected for scumhunting is out to get you, you decide they're scum. I decide you're being an idiot and overreacting. Then palmar flips scum in ... Rock Band? And Foolishness flips scum in Parallel.

So, you've got the track record here. Do you actually think this is a strategy that would be continued? I don't see why, especially as it didn't work well for Foolishness before, he would do the same thing 2 months later.

On March 12 2013 23:25 Acrofales wrote:

If you're not going to read my post, then I'm just going to ignore you.

On March 12 2013 23:38 yamato77 wrote:
Austin, you're over-thinking the situation and applying too many connections to this. It's quite simple.

Foolishness is playing like mafia, whether he lied about his read on Marv or not, or whatever it is that Marv is spewing on about.

His about turn on Vivax is ridiculous and completely in line with mafia motivations if Vivax is also scum with Foolish.

Since then they have both hard defended each other. Foolish and his mates have a history of doing this, a la Parallel World with BH/Foolish. It's like I'm reading a mash-up of LVIII/Parallel right now, to be honest. Scum Foolish/Vivax/Super all doing stupid things and covering Foolish up with the "don't lynch Foolish d1 cuz he's good".

Lynch them.

On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

On March 12 2013 23:58 Promethelax wrote:


you implie they are town
with the slips you've come down
so please do explain
what has so affected your brain
on you I just may set hounds.

On March 13 2013 10:00 Mocsta wrote:

Hold up a sec here

Why are you close to being shot?

And why have you got iamp and acro has likely town.
Even prome who knows iamp well is concerned with the state of his play.

On March 13 2013 12:42 Acrofales wrote:
How did Syllo die, if he's being protected? Fake message?

Did BC bus himself with a NK target? Or how the hell does this work?

On March 13 2013 12:55 marvellosity wrote:


lol. wow.

On March 13 2013 21:18 marvellosity wrote:


don't worry Dandel, I got this.

super is right in that a yamato death would clear some things up. It might buy Foolishness another day or two, helps with corazon and sloosh, etc.

if yamato flips town or no-shot happens, foolish should die immediately.

On March 13 2013 22:34 supersoft wrote:
You have to be trolling me right now.
Seriously, lynch Foolish day3 if it pleases you. Not today. The fact that you even consider lynching the guy, who just nuked the guy who gives town the most information if he dies, drives me crazy.

It's just dumb to kill Foolish before the shot goes through.
We're in no rush with that. We can easily wait for the additional information.

i will take that into my signature.

On March 13 2013 22:49 Vivax wrote:


Marv where did you announce your claim I only see you saying that Foolish needs to die tell us what you got, how many checks who it was etc. everything.

Also I quoted the post above cause you usually don't tell your main scumread "You're absolutely terrible if you think I'm scum"

Foolish how sure are you marv is scum?

On March 13 2013 22:51 supersoft wrote:


no Kurumi launched the real nuke. Rol launched the dud.



What? Read Acrofales post I quoted above, if you don't get what i say :-/

On March 14 2013 00:04 marvellosity wrote:


this is probably fake. if i somehow end up dead in a minute, make sure Vivax's lynch goes through.

On March 14 2013 00:08 iamperfection wrote:
so who wants to kill ver with me?

sloosh when does your supposed stuff happen?

On March 14 2013 00:13 supersoft wrote:
NO! I AM FUCKING MAD! HOW CAN YOU LAUNCH A MISSLE AFTER I WASTED 1 HOUR OF MY VALUABLE TIME EXPLAINING WHY THAT GUY HAS TO LIVE!?

On March 14 2013 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
We shouldn't be to worried about the nukes. With 2 it's pretty much guaranteed some there are duds in this.
Don't let it sidetrack lynch discussion. And unless the nuke-senders claim their nukes are duds before they hit. Assume they didn't know they were duds.

On March 14 2013 00:36 Vivax wrote:


If you think I'm mafia why would you assume I have an ability that targets mafia?

On March 14 2013 00:48 risk.nuke wrote:

What makes you think marv should consider you obvitown when all you do is piss over everything?

On March 14 2013 00:57 Acrofales wrote:
Wait... WTF. Can I do that too? My pm says nothing about nukes. Are we secretly playing in a bastard game?

##nuke Vivax

On March 14 2013 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
Did we seriously not have ONE vig last night to deal with Vivax? Fuck me.

On March 14 2013 00:59 marvellosity wrote:


are you asking the mods, broski?

On March 14 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:


why wouldn't you just ask?

On March 14 2013 01:05 Promethelax wrote:


...

On March 14 2013 01:08 prplhz wrote:
got a mod pm telling me that i have to vote for vivax

##Vote Vivax

On March 14 2013 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:


ITS A TRAP.

No seriously we kill Vivax now, then he doesnt do even more stupid stuff like NUKE MARV.
Seriously Vivax doesnt LEARN.
WHY NOT.
!!!

On March 14 2013 01:55 marvellosity wrote:
The rule of thumb for Vivax is: if he plays blatantly anti-town, he's town.

IT's tragic but it's usually true.

On March 14 2013 02:31 marvellosity wrote:


Dandel babe, why did you out your protective role of me instead of keeping it secret?

On March 14 2013 03:07 marvellosity wrote:
Dandel, you need to vote with me.

On March 14 2013 03:09 marvellosity wrote:


yes

On March 14 2013 03:11 Acrofales wrote:


Yeah, but I think three duds would also be stupid. So one of them is probably real. It's worth waiting and seeing which.

On March 14 2013 05:00 Foolishness wrote:
Well if you want to be conceited about it then that's fine too. I mean I could care less about you, I'm here to win.

On March 14 2013 05:27 prplhz wrote:
i assume that scum did it to make me look worse because i've already attracted some heat. i don't know why they want me voting vivax though but if he's really town then maybe that's why. they could have made me vote anybody but they'd probably not want me to vote scum.

On March 14 2013 08:53 supersoft wrote:
You cannot all be scum:
















I command you to unvote.

##UNVOTE

On March 14 2013 10:06 slOosh wrote:
He is also 100% sure that yamato is scum so that's a null point.

Instead of pointing out the (what should be) obvious gaping logical holes of scum Foolishness' "case" in determining the three reads, you go after something inane. C'mon - rip it apart marv!

There is actually plenty of reason to lynch yamato first - him flipping red does a lot to the current playing field, which is why I'm waiting on supersoft / Foolishness.

On March 14 2013 10:28 strongandbig wrote:


Would town Marv really try and run "I'm town because I've posted more one liners than in any of my previous scum games"?

Like, really?

On March 14 2013 13:46 Acrofales wrote:
I have skimmed your filter in NMM 33, but it's hard to get a proper impression without reading more. At first glance you seem more dogged and pushy here than in NMM 33, however as Mocsta said, it was your first game ever.

I don't have time to really read that game right now, I might tomorrow. In the meantime there are Yamato, Prom, Marv and DI who know that game far better than I do. I trust them to do a better job than I ever could of any meta analysis of your scum play.

Prom, Yamato, Marv, DI: what do you think of Cora?

I'm off to bed.

On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote:
But in your first post you seemed to accuse Vivax, and now you two seem to be butt-buddies. Aren't you contradicting yourself?
No. In my first post I thought Vivax was suspicious, and I hinted at my reasoning. That story post was made in haste after reading the thread and I called him out based on gut instinct from his filter. I was in a rush cause it's the end of the school quarter here and I'm quite busy (e.g. research paper due, finals, etc.). Later in day 1 I examined the thread and I had time to analyze a few people (more on who these people are later in this post). I looked at Vivax's history and realized I made a mistake. There is a post in my filter which explains why. It should be noted that while Vivax is rather spammy and not the most coherent at times, it is 100% clear that he is putting in an effort to figure things out and get things done for the town.

Okay, it's definitely clear that yamato77 is mafia, but what of your other reads?
I will talk about marvellosity in a bit. After the nuke incident I believe that Crossfire is mafia. His nuke against me was an incredibly rash thing to do, especially after people in the thread were saying to hold off on killing me one more day (the same people who include a mod-confirmed townie). It makes sense from a mafia perspective. I just nuked one of their teammates so they are screwed, since dodging a nuke is near-impossible. They see this and realize that I'm on the right track in figuring them out (say for example I'm correct about marvellosity) so they nuke me immediately to prevent me from causing further damage. I myself, as mafia in past games, have done this many times. Some person comes out in the thread and kills a teammate or posts a big analysis that's very bad for our team, I shoot them immediately to stop them from doing further damage.

Also consider the fact that crossfire was in no danger of getting killed at the moment. If he was about to get lynched I can see sending out a nuke as a last ditch effort to survive or make something happen (hey I just kinda did it, though my motivation is way different). It was completely out of the blue, just as yamato's day vigi was completely out of the blue.

I analyzed this guy day 1 but didn't come up with anything conclusive. On one hand he hadn't done anything to exhibit being mafia, but nothing striking to say he was for sure town either. With his nuke shot we now know where his agenda is and what side of the town he's on.

On March 14 2013 21:32 Vivax wrote:
Forgot to add Dandel to the possible scum.

Oats is likely just bad townie.

On March 14 2013 21:34 Dandel Ion wrote:

Please make a list with your top 15 scumreads.

On March 14 2013 21:39 Vivax wrote:
Funny boy.not.

On March 14 2013 21:49 Vivax wrote:
Why don't you tell me why all on the yamato wagon were town instead (Cora likely town) and thus, all mafia were on Bugs/Crossfire/me/something else than yamato?

Some stupid townies say it's concerning when I play "normally", it's like asking me to play crazy and anti-town just to not get lynched. I don't know what's up with people. They think I'd play the same in every game, I'm not that stupid as either alignment, and I keep learning more about this game.

On March 14 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
My townreads are my not-scumreads, Mengenlehre. Go on.

On March 14 2013 22:41 marvellosity wrote:
THAT is what i want to talk about right now. Or Foolish constantly demanding a long case from me when syllogism clearly articulated that mafia Foolish gets pissy when he doesn't get a nice long case on him.

Like Dandel. Tell me what you think about what I said about slOosh, tell me about what you think about what I said about Corazon, and how Foolish has a strong townread on him.

On March 14 2013 22:59 Vivax wrote:
I mean, it's not hard to look like you're figuring things out when you have 24 pages of filter, that's 24/129 pages.

→ 18,6 % of the posts in this game are by marv, who "is" 3,3 % of the players in this game.

He probably beats Bill Murray by a long shot.

On March 14 2013 23:02 marvellosity wrote:


I probably won't survive that long, so I'll answer. I have 5 distinct powers which I can only use once.

On March 14 2013 23:03 austinmcc wrote:
Here's what this bit comes down to:

Do you believe Foolishness is a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi? Do you think Foolishness received a PM telling him that he was all of those things? If you do, I think you're ridiculous. If you don't, then Foolishness's big reputation-restoration post isn't fully truthful.

If nothing else, this line:Read this bit Supersoft. Read this bit anyone who thinks Foolishness posted a big ol' pile of truthful thoughts.

(1) I tried to kill yamato 2x "to get people to see that I'm town"
(2) "Since I can't be lynched I thought that this would again put me back on track and get people to listen to me"

Read (2) again. Read (2) again, slowly. Again, he's saying he can't be lynched. Yet he's worried about getting town to listen to him. And he's admitting that he hasn't had much time to play, hasn't been able to analyze everything. There are TWO problems there.

If he can't be lynched, then his townieness is ALMOST 100% proven when he doesn't get lynched. How the balls do you balance a game with a scum player who cannot be lynched? Role =/= alignment, but some roles are very, very telling because they simply can't be balanced for the other side. See the talk about phoenix wright or whatever from earlier. Unlynchable is NOT a balanced mechanic, and if he's so sure he won't be lynched, then his townieness will be proven out. He's so worried about getting town cred and about being listened to, yet he's conveniently forgotten that he is claiming that he will emerge from a lynch unscathed, immediately FORCING people to take him much more serious and townily. Does not compute.

Look at you. You didn't post end-of-night reads, despite thinking you might get shot, because you knew you'd be back today. Foolishness claims to have a PM that says "you can't be lynched, bro," and yet he's not taking that into account in his play. He's lying. He's lying in his come-clean post. That ain't town.

On March 14 2013 23:12 austinmcc wrote:
Sorry, (1) and (2) there aren't really conclusions. They're just suspicions/paranoia/whatever. But I don't like that we had two vote steals, with different messages and mechanics, and it leads me to believe that one is false

On March 14 2013 23:13 iamperfection wrote:

for someone who shot their own scum buddy you put a lot of stock in associations.

On March 14 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
Oh well this usually works with fanboy towns like this as shown in LX:

Hey guys I'm sandroba playing from Vivax's account sheep me cause my name is leet and stuff.

And with this, gl on lynching Foolish.

On March 14 2013 23:26 marvellosity wrote:


austin, I think you'll agree with me that Foolishness is both one of the most important and most controversial players in this entire game yes? Lots of suspicion on him, now he's made a stir, he was a favourite lynch candidate.

Here is the entirety of Corazon's filter where he mentions Foolishness:





Seriously. How can you avoid commenting on Foolishness that much? It's practically impossible.

On March 14 2013 23:31 cDgCorazon wrote:
Don't sit here and talk about how I could be scummy.

GROW SOME BALLS AND VOTE FOR ME.

On March 14 2013 23:34 cDgCorazon wrote:
If you don't lynch me today I'm going to vote Yamato first thing and then go afk.

Saying "Corazon is scummy but I'm not going to vote for him" is scummy. Savvy?

On March 15 2013 00:23 HiroPro wrote:
also does anyone even remember that stutters is playing in this game? he has not mentioned a single thing about what is going on today or taken a stance on whether foolishness is scum, only dropped in twice to say nothing.

On March 15 2013 00:44 yamato77 wrote:

He's still the leading vote-getter by far, dude. You don't need to push his lynch, it's already happening.

Why not talk about something else that is more useful? You've been on this Foolish bullshit all day basically. Give it a rest.

On March 15 2013 00:47 yamato77 wrote:

And what stunning analysis have you given today?

I'm trying to get Marv to stop playing so anti-town with this Foolish tunnel.

On March 15 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is there a situation that both Foolishness and Marv are town and that we need to look elsewhere?

Like, YAMATO!!!!

On March 15 2013 01:04 Oatsmaster wrote:


Foolishness is also much more likely to be right than me too, and I thought you were town.

I wish he would come back though. You being active is better cause you are active..

NADA TALK TO ME

nope too busy working out

On March 15 2013 12:08 iamperfection wrote:

my vote counted as two because im a boss

On March 15 2013 12:12 austinmcc wrote:
gg cora, had me fooled for a bit/somewhat through the whole thing.


Cora only claimed slOosh's steal. Nobody claimed prplhz.

prplhz's vote wasn't locked on D1, only D2. Kita's post came just after the third nuke launched. Read thread is gud for DI.

On March 15 2013 21:22 prplhz wrote:

why hiro and why not risk?

On March 15 2013 21:34 Acrofales wrote:

Why do you think scum has to shoot you?

On March 15 2013 21:43 prplhz wrote:

if you don't want to answer both questions then the first one is the important one and the second one is really just because i'm curious

On March 15 2013 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
Dandel hasn't been completely useless at all. That's grossly unfair.

On March 15 2013 21:58 prplhz wrote:

why not?

On March 15 2013 22:02 prplhz wrote:

i don't want a textwall, i hardly ever do

just a couple of lines with your thoughts

On March 15 2013 22:46 prplhz wrote:

can't you just give me those fucking thought jesus christ

i don't care about your opinion on me because it's wrong and i'm not getting me lynched right now anyway. i don't have a strong read on hiro though so i'd like your thoughts on him because you look townie to me.

now can you please stop being a pain in the ass and just answer my god damn question about why you think what you think.

On March 15 2013 23:07 Acrofales wrote:

MTG2 you were pretty lurky at the start and I specifically remember you pointing to some other game where you lurked at the start of the game as town, to back up your "I never lurk as scum, but do as town" reason. Stop this line of reasoning right now. Your town and scum meta are very similar, but I feel the difference is in the conviction with which you push your reads.

On March 15 2013 23:10 Acrofales wrote:


Fine. Your reads are all over the place. We talked quite a lot about stutters in MTG2. Why do you think his play here is so different? Or is he scum by elimination?

On March 15 2013 23:12 Acrofales wrote:

Talking about Marv's meta, not Vivax. Marv is using his OWN meta to make a meta read on Vivax, which just seems completely pointless. Moreso because he is misquoting his own meta.

I think Vivax is probably town, he is too fucking insane to be scum (and I caught him when observing his scumgames, because he is far more placating as scum than as town). So yeah, I will shoot down bogus arguments when I see them.

On March 15 2013 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
I'm pretty worried about what's going to happen to Dandel tonight T_T

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 16 2013 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
The op says 5 out of 5 mafia remain

On March 16 2013 00:25 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Exactly cause it makes you look less bad.
And WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM.

We don't talk about this derp ability. We talk about reads now. Marv got a townie lynched, Foolishness defended him. Take your pick.

On March 16 2013 00:29 Vivax wrote:
Dandel keeps trolling and humping marv.

You claimed medic didn't you?

On March 16 2013 00:34 marvellosity wrote:
what's not to be sure about?

On March 16 2013 00:36 marvellosity wrote:


I just told you exactly why

...

On March 14 2013 21:24 Dandel Ion wrote:

Okay so here's the thing: He says he analyzed a couple people. Cool.
Town on Vivax after accusing him, purely on his meta interpretations.
Not that he actually shares those.


I somehow lost the part he writes about yamato in the quotemonster, but it's metameta too. Even some meta from completely different people, l0l. Too lazy to dig it up again, you can read it in his post yourself~.~

He also does legthy meta-blabla on marv, but I'd like to wait for marv to address that, so I'm not mentioning it yet myself.
You can read it. So, apparantly he likes to use meta, huh?

wait a minute

Dang.
Analyzing CROSS didn't come up with anything conclusive?
WHAT?
He's been playing to his mafia meta TO A TEE for most of the game, and especially and purely so on day 1.
Yet there is no mention of that, what actually would have been a legit point, in favor of "QQ he nuked me so I dun like him!!!"
That is a clear sign he did not actually look at Cross, or "analyze" him, if you will.

Yet he's stated him as a higher lynch priority than marv
On what basis?
Read the above quote.
That's his thoughts on Cross.
Does it SOUND like he's more sure of him than marv? No.
He's stated marv and yamato both to be "100%". So to want to lynch cross over marv, he would have to be 100% on him as well. Does not sound like it.


-> Scum Foolishness is scared of having marv's mislynch on his hands, since it would guarantee his death in the near future, in some way. So he wants to push yamato/cross instead.

The way he's doing it however, suggests he does NOT actually want to lynch Cross. Actual legitimate arguments against Cross are not brought up, instead we get this weaksauce omgus stuff.
This can suggest two things: Either he was too lazy to put in the effort, or, he's scum with Cross and didn't want to actually nail him to the cross (huehue), at least not yet.
Neither of the two are of a townie mindset.

Seriously read the Cross part. He's trying to call him scum without getting him lynched. Clear as day.


As I noted, I'll wait for marv to address the parts about himself first, but there's more in there too.

On March 15 2013 22:54 Dandel Ion wrote:

Who ever said I think?

I'll replace prpl (dat's you) with Vivax on my list.

And Hiro with Cross.

Now it's my actual scum list:

Fool
sloosh
vivax
cross
Sutters


l0l

On March 16 2013 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
you missed Corazon, Dandel. But yeah. Not far off I think. I find DP's play so far somewhat suspicious.

On March 16 2013 01:47 marvellosity wrote:


is your protection of me permanent while you're alive?

On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
I am still a medic and I change my protection to Dandel, because I am selfish and I want to live.

On March 19 2013 12:52 gonzaw wrote:
To be honest.....it's not farfetched to think Vivax as town MVP this game....
...in comparison to other townies >_> <_<