EPTHere dere be scum
Cora:
Tunnels Yamato all game. However, unlike Duel or NMM 37 where he tunneled incessantly, the read seems forced.
On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet?
Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet?
This seemed like throwaway D1 pressure at the time, but Cora just went on and on about it. The fact that it was a meta read in the first place stuck out, because, as I said earlier: it's from a player who I distinctly recall saying all meta cases are terrible in Duel mafia. He then gets extremely paranoid about dying when Kurumi posts fake shots in the vote thread, and is extremely defensive about his contributions this game, which, at the time were minimal.
When he gets pressured himself, he doesn't explain his thoughts, but deflects and avoids answering. First with the deflection from Mocsta where he says other people asked him that before and Mocsta was just sheeping, and then later with Marv:
On March 12 2013 08:32 cDgCorazon wrote:
Why are you bringing this up almost 48 hours after the fact? If you wanted to call me out for it you should have then, not now.
Yamato's normal town play is abrasive but purposeful. His play and reads this game has been all over the place. Many calls of scum, only a small percentage of them have been followed through with actual evidence.
Why are you bringing this up almost 48 hours after the fact? If you wanted to call me out for it you should have then, not now.
Yamato's normal town play is abrasive but purposeful. His play and reads this game has been all over the place. Many calls of scum, only a small percentage of them have been followed through with actual evidence.
Who cares WHEN it is asked? He just seems really keen on dodging questions.
Sloosh: discussed to death. He has a single-page filter and is completely useless. Sloosh by all accounts (never played with him) is a good and useful town player. Why is he doing NOTHING except for tunneling Yamato? Lazy scum. That's why.
Ver: already said why a bazillion times.
Xfire99: played like crap. Then when he realized he might deflect the lynch showed some minimal contribution. Then when the lynch was over he disappeared again. No interest in the game, just in saving his own hide.
Null, leaning scum:
Vivax: entered the thread in an extremely wishy washy manner. Seemed like he wanted to lynch lurkers, but was afraid of saying so. This seems completely out of wack with his town meta, where he ALWAYS says whatever he wants. He then moved on to wanting to lynch roleplayers in a similarly vague way.
However, there's some stuff which makes me less convinced than the other 4. Firstly, he says that he doesn't believe the modconfirmed announcement of Kurumi being town. This is stupid, but doesn't seem like something scum would say: they already knew Kurumi was town and the mod announcement just confirms that, why say something weird about not believing it?
His whole tunnel on Marv feels like the spiteful, aggressive town Vivax from LIX and not the more placable scum Vivax.
Still, he is shitting up the thread to no end and his reads are unexplained and all over the place (other than Yamato and Marv). Could be scum based on that.
Stutters: more useless than in his town games. When pressured puts on a show, but just as Xfire, disappears the minute he is out of the spotlight again. Also:
On March 13 2013 04:33 Acrofales wrote:
What the hell is this, and why did everybody move away from Stutters?
I get that his later posting got a bit better, but here he claims he did this before, and was town. Then when it's pointed out that he never did this before (and he has never rolled scum, keep that in mind) he uses roleplaying Kenpachi as a "new" excuse, which contradicts his old one.
Lazy scum is lazy.
What the hell is this, and why did everybody move away from Stutters?
I get that his later posting got a bit better, but here he claims he did this before, and was town. Then when it's pointed out that he never did this before (and he has never rolled scum, keep that in mind) he uses roleplaying Kenpachi as a "new" excuse, which contradicts his old one.
Lazy scum is lazy.
HiroPro: mostly useless. Flying under the radar. I know town Hiro to have fairly good reads and push them. Here we have drunk phone posts and fluff. Useless Hiro is scum.
Mocsta: antagonistic and in-your-face. Normally I'd say those were townie traits, but he was acting in a similar way in NMM 37 as scum, where he kept shitting up the thread by leading Cora on a pointless wild goose chase. If Vivax flips scum, then look no further: Mocsta was around and active in the thread, had all the time in the world to filter Vivax, calls him "worthy of scrutiny", but leaves his vote on Bugs. He never actually scrutinized Vivax and came up with a weak excuse to leave his vote there.
Iamperfection: not his aggressive, assertive self. Could be roleplaying, but as Marv said, town Iamperfection is so easy to read, he is almost as good as an IC. Iamp is not playing like that this game. Also voted for Bugs, but has a better reason than Mocsta.
Foolishness: discussed to death. Not as bad as Ver, but has been completely useless.
risk.nuke: town meta: aggressive tunnely active. Scum meta: aggressive, but loses interest quickly in the game. Guess who has gone awol. Also completely inconsistent reads:
On March 12 2013 06:52 Acrofales wrote:
Hide behind others? Stop deflecting. I found it very suspect that you called me out and voted for me for saying Ver's entry, and only post so far, was a scum ploy. Yet when BC calls Ver scum for the exact same post you find the read "reasonable but cheap".
Basically it feels as if you are defending Ver for no reason, because it was just little ole me, but when BC calls him out you want to crawl back into the shadows and not be noticed. That is scum behaviour.
As fora throw-away vote, I just gotdone reading page 31. Would you rather I vote yamato for being a derp, and probably a town derp at that? Because I prefer to read the rest of the thread and making up my own mind rather than mindlessly sheeping someone.
EDIT: the internet at this airport is terrible and keeps crashing. I'll keep doing what I can.
Hide behind others? Stop deflecting. I found it very suspect that you called me out and voted for me for saying Ver's entry, and only post so far, was a scum ploy. Yet when BC calls Ver scum for the exact same post you find the read "reasonable but cheap".
Basically it feels as if you are defending Ver for no reason, because it was just little ole me, but when BC calls him out you want to crawl back into the shadows and not be noticed. That is scum behaviour.
As fora throw-away vote, I just gotdone reading page 31. Would you rather I vote yamato for being a derp, and probably a town derp at that? Because I prefer to read the rest of the thread and making up my own mind rather than mindlessly sheeping someone.
EDIT: the internet at this airport is terrible and keeps crashing. I'll keep doing what I can.
Null:
BC: is not putting effort into the game. Not pushing his reads. Prplhz's case made sense to me. However, his two main targets (other than Yamato) happen to be strong scumreads for me.
Oatsmaster: seems to be playing more like his town meta than his scum meta, but has done absolutely nothing of note. Firmly null.
austinmcc: flying under the radar, but is making sensible posts.
Dandel Ion: poking people for no reason makes me think he's town. However, they are largely potshots with no follow-up. The Dandel I hydra'd with in MTG mini mafia was more active and had better reads than this. However, he hasn't done anything particularly scummy either.
supersoft: largely useless, but has some stuff that doesn't seem scum-like. The "trap" he claimed to have layed by agreeing with Iamp's post, but really not agreeing with it at all. Claiming it was a trap instead of explaining away the inconsistent read is not an excuse I expect from scum. Also, constructive criticism.
Null, leaning town:
SnB: is making sense and isn't lurking. Seems like his town meta.
prplhz: seems lighthearted and calm. The whole claim thing makes sense for town, and not for scum. Scum prplhz is so scummy that he gets lynched half the time on D1 as town. This is not that prplhz.
Town:
Promethelax: town meta, despite the limericks.
Yamato: despite what BC says, the most logical explanation for what happened is that Yamato is town and played badly. Yamato being scum requires too many assumptions.
Marv: seems to be trying to figure the game out. Could be playing excellent scum, but as in Duel, I have no reason to suspect him now.
VE: when VE is making sense and posting useful stuff, VE is town. That is the VE we have this game.
Yes, I realize that I have way too many scumspects. This game is impossible to read and clear up townies. I'm glad I even found 4. We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow.
