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On March 13 2013 05:39 prplhz wrote: I think that Vivax is completely trolling by now though I haven't read really scrutinized the Vivax/VisceraEyes/marvellosity debacle. I know I said "no N1 shots" but if someone is really trigger happy then shoot Vivax. prplhz might be town. He's starting to make sense with his BC case and this post. | ||
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On March 13 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Acro you asked me about my meta read on Ver. Do you have further comment other than "we disagree"? No. Your meta read gives a pretty good reason why he would definitely read his role PM. After that we do indeed just disagree. I don't see any reason to post like that as town, except as a trap. If it was a trap, it was a terrible one and he hasn't followed up on it. The "hours to come" better bring something fucking fabulous for me to stop seeing him as scum. | ||
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On March 13 2013 06:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Still catching up on thread but you just posted the most wtf comment ever. I have bolded it for ease. Kurumi's role was obviously one that benefited mafia more than town. IE we already have proof that roles do not have to make sense for their alignment. Roles make sense to the personality. If they RNG'd the personalities/roles then the alignments then anyone could end up up with an alignment that doesnt mesh well with their role. I find scrubblies who make bad reasons on why someone can't be mafia using faulty and terrible logic likely to be mafia defending a scumbuddy Kurumi's role is more powerful for scum than for town, but it is not USELESS for scum. Modconfirming a DT check is not just useless for scum, it is worse than useless. There is literally NO reason to use a modconfirming DT check barring extremely weird situations like Drazerk in HRM (where townies knew Drazerk had the role, because we gave it to him, and were masoned with him. He HAD to use it... and additionally there were 2 scum teams). If you think the role works the way Yamato described, as I do, then it is basically an anonymous dayvig. In that case, Yamato's use of it makes no sense as town. So either scum got, and used a DT check. Or scum announced the anonymous dayvig and used it on a target that was shitting up the thread instead of some powerful town leader. OR, you go with Ockham's Razor and realize that Yamato is town. | ||
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C: there might be some merit to that. I once mentioned offhandedly to Greymist that I found it funny that his Ace Attorney role is always considered confirmed town, and he said he had wanted to make it scum (in PU I think), but there were balance reasons not to, or the roles didn't work out properly, or something. Anyway, you bring up something worth considering. | ||
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He could have just silently and quietly shot any of the heavy hitters and nobody would have known unless he started yelling that he was MZ. | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Simple. If as mafia he used it on me and I flipped town and got shot, he'd be instantly castrated for taking out a town heavy hitter and a townie who knows his role will kill a green/blue check is a retard to use it on a high profile target unless the suspicion of him being scum is there. Choosing one of us day 2 or 3 makes sense but within the first like 24ish hours of day 1? No chance in hell. Object is to confirm your alignment, not solidify your trip to the gallows. How would anybody know Yamato did that? The only reason we know Yamato called the hit in is because he told us so. | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Again. Issue is if there is anyone in the game that reveals peoples personalities. In a game such as this there could very well be. For all we know he is forced to claim in some way (via pro gf snipe comment or the like) to give a hint as to his role. Hitting a heavy hitter still makes no sense as it outs a scum role day 1. If he were to use it and missfire day 2 or 3 on someone the thread considered mafia then he'd get away scott free, but not day 1. I don't buy that scum is paranoid enough to live in permanent fear of role/name cops. Scum fake claim in closed themed games all the time. Any role/name cop could catch them out, yet I've only seen it happen ONCE (my own check on Toad in CT). | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:16 supersoft wrote: just one little sidenote: I am rereading the thread and I often see people exaggerating and writing really onesided cases. If you don't balance pros and cons, I cannot follow your chain of thought and therefor you don't convince me. Still reading through the thread, but this is one of the towniest posts in it. I had a null-leaning-scum read on him before. Would scum-SS fake this and give good advice like this? | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote: hes got some of my town reads some of my mafia reads. Seems decent mixed list tbh So it's a useless throwaway list with reads that are all over the map? Yeah. That's what I got from that too. | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:47 marvellosity wrote: it's not a curveball, it's something that sounds good but will safely be ignored by the whole thread. no idea why you think it's a big deal. It struck me as the kind of post I don't expect scum to make. Yes, it was advice that will be ignored, but it has a townie vibe. I'd expect scum to be more negative about it and just tell everybody they are making terrible cases without the constructive criticism bit. | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:06 iamperfection wrote: why are people not commenting on me nailing the scum team? I like your list. I just have more scumreads. When I get done reading the last 10 pages or so I'll throw mine up there for everybody to admire. | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:53 Vivax wrote: Acrofales you done preparing your list I'm waiting while reading a whole page where iamp is holding hands and talking about tv so I currently don't really believe what I'm seeing. I just got back home. The deadline is in 2 3/4 hours. What's your rush? | ||
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On March 12 2013 12:20 Mocsta wrote: I know that you have been out of town, so i can live with the useless activity for Day 1. But now that you are back.. i am going to be watching you *very* carefully How's that watching going? | ||
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