Personality Mafia 2 - Page 37

On March 16 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:


Because I sheeped you after being in the game for three hours? and have now stopped blindly sheeping you after being far more well informed? I don't know about you but that seems totally reasonable to me and in no way says anything about me being mafia. You should know that and I do know that. It's 2 am i'm closing everything. Feel free to post as much as you want on why I am scum i'll get back to you tomorrow.

On March 17 2013 00:04 DarthPunk wrote:

no the relevant post is the one that said there were opposing cop checks. You are being blatantly manipulative now.

Which is weird because manipulation comes from pushing an agenda rather than seeking the truth. Which are you doing with me?

On March 17 2013 00:08 DarthPunk wrote:


The way you present your argument is that the relevant posts are the posts in which you pointed me towards. they are not. And anyone with half a brain would KNOW that deciphering your mess was impossible to be easy. it was ONLY easy because of the cop check. and after that I just sheeped you because you are a good player until I could catch up with the thread. Ciao

On March 17 2013 01:03 Acrofales wrote:

I am not very convinced by this. DP got pointed to the most relevant posts, read them and was convinced that Foolishness was scum. He then read the rest of the thread, which has a LOT of shit between you and Vivax concerning Foolishness' alignment. He knows Foolishness is town, and has to use the posts not to determine Foolishness' alignment, but yours. I don't know that I would put it as bluntly, but it took me quite a bit of reading and thinking about the game to realize that you were probably just wrong, not scum for relentlessly pushing Foolishness.

However, I don't like his defense: this above was what came to my mind immediately when reading the attack and I dismissed it. But as defense he brings up the check: if his entire reason for thinking Foolishness was scum was the CHECK, why bother mentioning the posts in the first place? He thought the parity check was truthful, and claims his own PM as evidence that this means Foolishness was scum. Why bother mentioning the posts? It seems like a post-hoc scramble to make sense of his actions.

So yeah, I think DP is scum. What do you think of Xfire?

On March 17 2013 01:18 prplhz wrote:
marv can you god damn roleclaim

On March 17 2013 01:34 slOosh wrote:
I eventually conceded marv was town given that everyone else in town thought so too. You can see this because when Foolishness comes in with his big post I get all excited (hey I'm not the only one!) and same when supersoft initially came in. It is incredibly difficult to mentally decide that you are correct and everyone else in town isn't. My confidence in my play isn't at that level.

The biggest information from the night kills was that Foolishness is town and that the bulk majority of his effort was directed at marv, and that cora was almost certainly town given the high KP.

Marv admits himself that he looks terrible if cora flips town. Well cora did flip town but marv made up stuff to say otherwise. I felt strongly against that, but again, everyone else in town thought so too.

On March 16 2013 05:37 slOosh wrote:
I think ... I figured out why I'm so bad ... the themed games screw with me. Nomination, PYPower, Liar Game ... all of it fits together... anyways,

Yea so I shut up and did some serious reading. It seems like different play fueled my paranoia of you into a scummy interpretation. For instance, upon rereading you are right that cora's behavior around lynch is strange, but I would say that it is knowing that he has the power to control the lynch but choosing to instead martyr that gives himself away, not the he knew he was gonna die (probably because I've seen plenty of townies pull this "kill me so with my flip you realize player X is scum", which it seemed like what he was doing).

Upon reading your two big posts I agree with and it was the kind of thing I was initially looking for when Foolishness initially made the case. When you picked out the kill order, I really believed that is a null point, because I saw a reason why I would want scum yamato flip first, and I think supersoft also said he wanted to flip yamato first (but didn't explain until later I think). What saw as scummy on review is that he went yamato => crossfire => marv, not yamato => marv => crossfire, because there would be no point in putting crossfire before marv. Again, same conclusion but using different information.

I apologize the undue stress placed upon you marv. It's just the misfortune of having a new category of player I call themedtownslOosh which seems to play pretty poorly. Yea. Foolishness scum. My bad. If I'm still unreadable and you still want to lynch me that's totally understandable. In the meantime I'm just gonna have to build my reads from base up, unless you want me to focus on something neutral / less talked about to see if we come to the same conclusions.

On March 17 2013 01:36 prplhz wrote:
yes you have, a roleclaim will make me reconsider. do you have any reason not to roleclaim?

On March 17 2013 01:39 slOosh wrote:
Yea, marv is just splitting hairs, and isn't doing it for the purpose of getting a correct lynch. Doy.

On March 17 2013 01:46 Acrofales wrote:

Why? What about Marv's roleclaim is going to make you reconsider?

Actually there is one thing: Marv claimed he was protecting DI, yet DI ended up dead. Either someone shot Marv despite it being completely obvious DI had some form of protection on him (and scum therefore guessed correctly about exactly how DI's role worked), DI was doublestacked and there were 6!!! shots fired last night, or DI was not protected.

Marv, can you explain what you did last night?

On March 17 2013 01:47 slOosh wrote:

Lol ok Oats is scum too. I was never using the explanation to push marv. He wants me to put in work to get marv lynched but he himself isn't pushing for anyone's lynch. At LYLO. Lazy scum busted.