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On March 15 2013 12:12 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. So this is a bit of a mindfuck. Does scum really have lynch-immunity? Maybe tomorrow we test the HRM method for killing Drazerk? Minority of votes on him?
no, tomorrow Foolish leads the lynch again. I can't believe it's more than a one-time thing.
That is if he hasn't been "dealt with" overnight.
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also hi slOosh. we need to talk.
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On March 15 2013 12:19 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 12:16 Acrofales wrote:On March 15 2013 10:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, as my last will, here is 4/5ths of the scum team. They all have a hard-on for both defending each other, attacking me, not scum hunting, and shitting up the thread:
Yamato
Acro
Marv
Mocsta
Not very hard to tell with my flip
Peace out and GG gents. Fixed that list for you I'll take Things We Can't Be Sure Of for 600. Might still be scum on there. If nothing else, cora just tunneled yamato and anyone who defended yamato all game. Perhaps a ploy to make yammypants look good, or to hide a buddy in all cora's stuff.
no. yam obviously town now.
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On March 15 2013 12:25 austinmcc wrote:
Yamato the strongest town off that list, I don't think they pull that action. But "everyone scum suspects = town" ain't exactly a good rule to follow.
that's not it, us 3 were the hardest pushers of corazon. constantly push mafia = likely town isn't too bad a rule 
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Cora brought up barely anyone at all.
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I need to go to bed. Mocsta, that is an extremely good point. slOosh has a lot to answer for when he returns.
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On March 15 2013 13:30 Foolishness wrote:
k so I read marvellosity's response. This is all I have to say
*facepalm*
I guess to be more specific you haven't proven yourself to be pro town. You didn't respond to my arguments, you instead just called me out on my posts. That wasn't a defense, that was a "you're a liar so whatever".
You use some arguments like "I had only been playing mafia for 4 months so that doesn't really count" when in fact it does. You say that VE says your the most pro town as evident that your pro town. That's not evidence that your pro town.
I'm just going to stop reading your posts now, not worth my time.
you're terrible. but i'm glad you've shown yourself up.
want to talk to me about why you were so adamant Corazon was town when he was so clearly mafia? Want to discuss that awful, totally shit read of yours with me?
No, didn't think so. Embarrassing.
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On March 15 2013 15:08 slOosh wrote:I'm here - just totally lost on how to proceed because it seems like all my reads are in the wrong places. But yea, here to talk nevertheless. Just need direction that's all. I haven't had a chance to read your 2 mega posts on Foolishness, but his followup actions inspire no confidence, as does his nonchalant explanation of his role. Seems weird that they would choose to reveal the nature of their roles clearly - I haven't checked the votes but cora could have easily left his votes on yamato, and assuming he is town would have gotten him lynched and kept 3KP for scum this night. Uhh ... but yea that's WIFOM, which doesn't hold up to Foolishness' actions themselves indicating he is scum. Also his ability reminded me of this post. The point of the Nukes was to help get reads on difficult to read people (from my perspective). I went through multiple iterations of deciding the group, and I chose to give Vivax, Foolishness, risk.nuke and crossfire99 the nukes because they were people I wanted a better read on. I forgo talking about nukes later on because it's not nearly as clear cut as straight up behavioral analysis that occured (and thread moves way too fast for me so I don't always follow up on stuff)
Three things here.
1) The last time I remember slOosh making constant excuses about being absent and not having time was Dwarf fortress, where slOosh was mafia
2) given slOosh was so eager to talk about "the nukers", it seems almost impossible that he wouldn't want to talk about the non-nuker too.
3) This is the worst - "I haven't had a chance to read your 2 mega posts on Foolishness". Let's be clear here. slOosh came in to the thread yesterday, ranting like a prize buffoon, accusing me of this that and the other, saying I'd not done this or that, and this came after my first large response to Foolishness. This is unassailable proof that slOosh is throwing down his vote without actually reading the thread, without reading what i have to say.
I should say, slOosh (not so confident to use the bold fond on him.... yet.)
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On March 15 2013 21:12 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 15:08 slOosh wrote:On March 15 2013 12:15 marvellosity wrote:
also hi slOosh. we need to talk. I'm here - just totally lost on how to proceed because it seems like all my reads are in the wrong places. But yea, here to talk nevertheless. Just need direction that's all. I haven't had a chance to read your 2 mega posts on Foolishness, but his followup actions inspire no confidence, as does his nonchalant explanation of his role. Seems weird that they would choose to reveal the nature of their roles clearly - I haven't checked the votes but cora could have easily left his votes on yamato, and assuming he is town would have gotten him lynched and kept 3KP for scum this night. Uhh ... but yea that's WIFOM, which doesn't hold up to Foolishness' actions themselves indicating he is scum. Also his ability reminded me of this post. On March 11 2013 01:21 prplhz wrote:
I have a one shot ability to become immune to the lynch next day at the expense of my own vote. Any votes on me, and by me, will simply not count. <snip> This is actually a really good point. Why on earth would a Foolishness/Cora scumteam play like this? They could have used Foolishness' power so easily to kill off a townie (Cora could have moved his votes to Yamato or even me without anybody thinking twice about it), but because Foolishness exposed the way his power worked, we took precautions and got Cora lynched. This seems like such a stupid move from scum, that I doubt Foolishness is in a scumteam with Cora. risk.nuke brings up 3P. I guess that's a possibility. But what evidence for a 3P do we have? Unlynchable survivor seems ridiculous... and the KP from last night seems to be just scum, so no evidence for an SK (it's possible there was a doublestack or a save). So what wincon does the 3P have? So... Foolishness town? :O Also, regarding medic saves: are there hit notifications this game?
It's this kind of post that incensed me in the Duel Mafia ObsQT. Fuck me, Acro.
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don't see why Hiro should be mafia right now tbh.
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On March 15 2013 21:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 21:19 marvellosity wrote:On March 15 2013 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On March 15 2013 15:08 slOosh wrote:On March 15 2013 12:15 marvellosity wrote:
also hi slOosh. we need to talk. I'm here - just totally lost on how to proceed because it seems like all my reads are in the wrong places. But yea, here to talk nevertheless. Just need direction that's all. I haven't had a chance to read your 2 mega posts on Foolishness, but his followup actions inspire no confidence, as does his nonchalant explanation of his role. Seems weird that they would choose to reveal the nature of their roles clearly - I haven't checked the votes but cora could have easily left his votes on yamato, and assuming he is town would have gotten him lynched and kept 3KP for scum this night. Uhh ... but yea that's WIFOM, which doesn't hold up to Foolishness' actions themselves indicating he is scum. Also his ability reminded me of this post. On March 11 2013 01:21 prplhz wrote:
I have a one shot ability to become immune to the lynch next day at the expense of my own vote. Any votes on me, and by me, will simply not count. <snip> This is actually a really good point. Why on earth would a Foolishness/Cora scumteam play like this? They could have used Foolishness' power so easily to kill off a townie (Cora could have moved his votes to Yamato or even me without anybody thinking twice about it), but because Foolishness exposed the way his power worked, we took precautions and got Cora lynched. This seems like such a stupid move from scum, that I doubt Foolishness is in a scumteam with Cora. risk.nuke brings up 3P. I guess that's a possibility. But what evidence for a 3P do we have? Unlynchable survivor seems ridiculous... and the KP from last night seems to be just scum, so no evidence for an SK (it's possible there was a doublestack or a save). So what wincon does the 3P have? So... Foolishness town? :O Also, regarding medic saves: are there hit notifications this game? It's this kind of post that incensed me in the Duel Mafia ObsQT. Fuck me, Acro. Why? Where is my reasoning wrong? How the hell does a scumteam throw away a free lynch on a townie? Both Cora and Foolishness were already the top 2 scumspects, so it's not as if someone unsuspected would be claiming scum by doing this. If Foolishness had kept quiet they could probably have gotten a townie lynched, pretty much for free. Why not do that?
So Foolishness, the townie, has ALL his mafia reads wrong (probably), and not only so, outright, and blatantly, lied about me, about yamato, and about Corazon. Just outright, blatant untruths.
This is impossible for a town Foolishness.
Given he already made a whole host of errors this game, I'm not ruling him doing anything stupid out. He's simply not very good.
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Dandel hasn't been completely useless at all. That's grossly unfair.
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On March 15 2013 21:58 prplhz wrote:
marv what's your opinion of vivax
I think he's mafia. This is his opinion on supersoft. He obviously likes him a lot:
On March 13 2013 23:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 23:03 Mocsta wrote:On March 13 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote:
Ok ok I'll keep the calm I'm again rushing too much, I missed that thing you wrote marv and the Foolishness thingy is recent.
My bad didn't read properly sorry.
Anyway.
I want to lynch Ver in that case. I have no clue about Foolish currently but it's insane to favour him for lynch over a guy who doesn't move a finger after announcing he would. Also we can't be sure about Foolish until we see yamato flip.
Additionally, we need to wait for SlOosh's actions. SlOosh should tell us who he targeted though. What happened to crossfire and corazon? Didn't see marv got opposite checks back when I said I would want to lynch them. We should probably follow supersoft's advice though and wait how Foolish's action resolves while deciding over other candidates. Prplhz is also an awesome candidate for lynch.
On March 14 2013 01:06 Vivax wrote:Supersoft actually gets worked up over something reasonable. No reason to keep this marv alive though 
On March 14 2013 01:25 Vivax wrote:
That said for advice on how to support me into playing properly this game consult supersoft and Mocsta and some others who ask questions and get them without talking shit.
On March 15 2013 03:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 03:33 supersoft wrote:
Vivax is a player, that will always be unreadable for me. His decisionmaking is different from everyone else in this forum. He's as special as chezinu and I will probably never be able to read him.
This made me go awwww. But actually I'm just surprised you're not calling me insane but special lol (cause I'm not until I reach a computer and start playing mafia).
And yet, he won't listen to him at all. He won't even ENGAGE him in conversation on his townread on me. This is beyond insane Vivax. This is a mafia Vivax, not listening to a confirmed town supersoft who he likes, refusing to engage in conversation with him about me. Vivax didn't even ask supersoft WHY he found me town. He literally didn't care!
Now post-flip Vivax's opinions suddenly flip-flop around totally and completely. It's totally manufactured.
Vivax.
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On March 15 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
As in the reason I see in the supersoft thing, is that he thought that foolishness was town.
Which has been the case throughout his whole filter. Like if foolishness flips scum, ALL his reads are wrong and such. Isnt that a bit too much for scum?
Nope. If Fool and Vivax are mafia together, I imagine Fool told Vivax just to be completely insane.
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On March 15 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
As in the reason I see in the supersoft thing, is that he thought that foolishness was town.
Which has been the case throughout his whole filter. Like if foolishness flips scum, ALL his reads are wrong and such. Isnt that a bit too much for scum?
Bear in mind as well, supersoft had Foolish down as confirmed mafia. Wouldn't talk to him about that either.
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Why are you talking about when he had him as town? I'm talking about when he had him as mafia and both Vivax and supersoft were in the thread. What happened earlier is irrelevant.
I don't care who he's linked with, that's the point. I don't care about that. I care about how he refused to engage a confirmed town who he clearly likes on the reads he disagrees with.
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You have no answer to the point though, do you Vivax?
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On March 15 2013 22:23 Vivax wrote:
I do. I'm just not easily influenced by others just cause of what I think of them and prefer pushing my own thoughts.
My whole personality as town is basically anti-sheep except for rare occasions (I like the prospect of being right when everyone else was wrong lol)
So I think you mentioning me not getting influenced by supersoft isn't a good reason to claim I'm scum.
As for my reads, I am too afraid as scum to end up on the wrong wagon/side usually. They were wrong mostly cause I started from the scum yamato town Foolish premise (I still can't believe yamato could be town tbh) and then made connections from that point on.
However don't let me stop you rallying people for my lynch.
There's a big difference between not being easily influenced and totally refusing to engage at all.
Preferably if town has more than one KP you'll be shot at night after Foolishness is dealt with.
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On March 15 2013 22:26 Vivax wrote:
Evidence for the second point is LX where I gave Prom a null read with a point making me doubt he's scum and then giving up on defending him so easily when it was clear he was going to be lynched.
When Chezinu shot Milkman I basically went sheep mode with town cause I knew BH had gotten back some sort of check.
You also say you change your meta every game. This entire argument you're making is totally invalid because of this.
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