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On March 11 2013 16:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Corazon's case on Yamato reads as very sincere and I think he's town. His attack on yamato is fueled by the belief that he's scum. Contrast that with, for instance, Vivax' attack on yamato. Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 09:22 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
The reveal and shot were my role
I will not apologize for giving a martyr his death. Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling.
##Vote yamato77Anyone opposing a yamato lynch?
Well yes I can agree that there is a distinct lack of "care factor" in what you presented of Vivax.
However, us normal voters can only support one lynch.
And based on Kurumi actions, I would rather vote the guy that knowingly supported a mod-confirmed townie death; than the guy who "non-nonchalantly voted the mod-confirmed townies killer"
Steering back to Corazon: OK you read some conviction and think he is sincere; however, I don't share that opinion.
I dont see why conviction in a push reads as townish sincerity.
Does the push not need to be supplemented with a well-reasoned approach to warrant the tunnel?
Corazon early case on yamato all revolved around yamato actions in Duel Mafia.
Considering this is a shift from a normal -> themed game; that is pretty weak reasoning from Corazon, and presents a nice excuse to tunnel away - with conviction.
Also, Corazon never tries to explore the mindset of yamato, instead he just badgers yamato calling him scum.. where is the town sincerity in those actions?
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Yam, sounds like your role is a play on dream flower from personality 1.
So your logic was if u hit Mafia u get a DT check
And
If u hit town u took out someone shitting up the thread?
Is that correct?
I'm still not sure why u would take this gamble without raising it as a question. I thought more people were hating bugs at the time than kurumi, unless u referring to him specifically about being town only today comments.
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Lol.. U herded sheep?
Are u suggesting yam actions are a direct by product of your wisdom and guidance?
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Well if u had the role as scum... U have no choice but to mod confirm a townie for the kill to go through.
Why do u need a DT check?
That argument is moot yamato.
I'm still figuring out if u day vigged just like chezinu in Mafia LX... There is percent for ya play.. U was under some heat and maybe decided to use the power while u could on someone u hoped no one would care much about..
If u agreed with prom that kurumi was greener than bugs... Why scan kurumi.
This makes no sense and is a big flaw in your story.
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On March 11 2013 17:51 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 17:48 Mocsta wrote:
Lol.. U herded sheep?
Are u suggesting yam actions are a direct by product of your wisdom and guidance? tell me, oh wise one: does your toilet flush in the right direction? If a man were to announce to all: I am telling the truth: I am Mocsta. My name is my identity. The Australians are the best. What would you smell? For I, if I were the Mocsta, I would smell rat.
In most situations I would agree.
But darthpunk is the highest tl win rate in the database, so yes. Australians are the best according to statistics.no rat smelt there.
Can I ask if u targeted kurumi due to role pm requirements?
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On March 11 2013 18:08 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 17:55 Mocsta wrote:
Well if u had the role as scum... U have no choice but to mod confirm a townie for the kill to go through.
Why do u need a DT check?
That argument is moot yamato.
I'm still figuring out if u day vigged just like chezinu in Mafia LX... There is percent for ya play.. U was under some heat and maybe decided to use the power while u could on someone u hoped no one would care much about..
If u agreed with prom that kurumi was greener than bugs... Why scan kurumi.
This makes no sense and is a big flaw in your story. The things that made him see Kurumi green happened after the shot had been decided.Don't go too deep thinking about this, it's really simple. I used my role on Kurumi knowing that he might die, because him dying might have actually been a good thing for town today. Thread atmosphere was extremely anti-scumhunt for a good part of the last day. It is now pro-scumhunt. Mission accomplished.
Yeah I am not so sure on the bolded part.
Considering @ 05:18
Prome votes bugs.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 05:18 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 02:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 11 2013 02:22 prplhz wrote:
Kurumi's personality is Chezinu.
wherebugsgo's personality is Kurumi who is always acting Chezinuish anyway.
I solved it. the chicken has pondered, but it seems the result is the product of the ingestion of feces. As the dog it is my duty to lead the sheep away from danger, but the shepherd must know. Look at me, master. I will point you in the right direction. I see bugs thinks it is the New Years but his posting, in me, instils fear. This bugs is useless and dumb his posts do not attempt to find scum; this man does not deserve to be here. I say our WBG is corrupted his blood, when it flows, will be red. I say we must hang him, many people harangue him. He should end up dead. So I lay down my vote to elect this thug though I've read the thread slow as a slug, for the moment I think he is our best flip this man is scum, though he hasn't scum-slipped. So for now I say ##Vote: Bugs
@ 07:06 we receive your scan check announcement (1hr30min after prome WBG vote)
@ 7.09 Prome releases:
That one is good, one is bad [in his opinion].
Obviously with a vote on bugs, the infer is that Kurumi is good.
Obviously to make this post, enough content was warranted prior for prome to update the read publically.
The timing of the post, indicates the thought process was conceived before the announcement was made as well.
So its just not adding up with why you would choose kurumi >> bugs.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 07:09 Promethelax wrote:
These two opponents
are both looking for rodents
while not scum hunting like they could
I'd take a gamble and say that one is no good.
No wonder of lynching each other they are proponents.
Now marv, my good friend
the day will soon come to an end.
Who is it you'd most like to swing?
Which lad do you must want to sing?
You aren't shy, don't pretend.
I get that the specific dichotomy comment didnt come till when the kill was already going to be executed.
But im still struggling to swallow why you would rationalise taking this gamble on Kurumi > Bugs.
Now, if you had referred to this
On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks
Which conveniently occurs about 15min before your scan announcement, I would consider the situation a lot more as a town motivated scan. Because, that was indeed shitting up the thread and creating massive WIFOM bombs.
But, you never pointed this out in your arguments for shooting Kurumi.
Like I said, the story isn't selling itself that well for me - even when I am trying to keep it simple
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How can u justify a day vig on someone with one or zero posts?
if yam is town for u.. Who is ya top read so far?
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Oohhh so yam didnt have to claim the scalp. Got it.
I see. Interesting point actually. Makes me feel a lot better about prplhz. (& yam)
I cant see scum making a comment like that.
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Bad morning all.
This is my worst nightmare. 20 pages of thread to read with rhymers...
In case someone has a specific question for me, I will check the latest posts in about 30min; otherwise, will respond to things once I have caught up with the thread.
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On March 12 2013 07:45 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 07:43 Mocsta wrote:
Bad morning all.
This is my worst nightmare. 20 pages of thread to read with rhymers...
In case someone has a specific question for me, I will check the latest posts in about 30min; otherwise, will respond to things once I have caught up with the thread. Are you voting for me, due to the fact that I am your top scumread? Unlike what you have done so far, I've put my vote where my mouth is.
?? My vote is on WBG
On March 11 2013 16:02 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: WBG
For about 15hrs now...
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Ok caught up.
Wow, so much bullshit to read through.
Biggest thing that stood out for me is SnB consideration of snipe phrase (pro GF snipe)
It definitely gives some explanation for the delay (45min from phrase activation, instead of 2hrs from check).
I really dont like how yam hasnt commented on whether more bullets are around. SEVERAL people have asked him repeatedly.
My vote remains on Bugs, everything is just unreadable; and even Vivax voted himself as scum in Mafia LX, so i dont read into the martyr too much.
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I am off to buy Heart of the Swarm 
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Hi guys, back. HotS installing
hmmm im surprised xfire gaining so much momentum.
Notice that as he has received more pressure, he has stopped roleplaying and is offering his services to town.
I read sincerity and conviction in what he is saying. Or as the vets seem to say : congruence between actions/words.
I am still pro-bugs, even though he might not be posting due to time zone.. his last posts did nothing except make me laugh (i.e. the dog gif)
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On March 12 2013 11:31 yamato77 wrote:
I consent to any of Vivax, Super, Bugs, Foolish or Ver hanging
My vote will stay where it is because I only have time to type this post at work.
If I die, so be it, but I highly doubt you guys will be happy when you find out I lied about nothing
Still so many outstanding questions addressed to you yamato.
i.e.
(1) Can you fire again
(2) Was the shoot automatic, or did you need a keyword
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On March 12 2013 11:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 11:31 Promethelax wrote:On March 12 2013 11:26 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, I am compelled to do this during the day. I was gonna make it super-awesome but I cba.
I'm blates a cop and I want to investigate Foolish and Ver n stuff.
There we go.
Move along, nothing to see here. haha your role is the best after the game I'll laugh with the rest this is great not too late this was not a test apparently i wasn't even explicit enough according to kita. whatever.
ohh.. the claim was a role requirement...?
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On March 12 2013 11:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Cross still best lynch, and nobody trying to convince otherwise.
Do you not read or something
I wrote this 5min ago
On March 12 2013 11:33 Mocsta wrote:Hi guys, back. HotS installing hmmm im surprised xfire gaining so much momentum. Notice that as he has received more pressure, he has stopped roleplaying and is offering his services to town. I read sincerity and conviction in what he is saying. Or as the vets seem to say : congruence between actions/words. I am still pro-bugs, even though he might not be posting due to time zone.. his last posts did nothing except make me laugh (i.e. the dog gif)
I am not supporting a xfire lynch.. The guy has stopped role playing to save himself. and seems sincere in wanting to aid town last minute.
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On March 12 2013 11:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 11:38 Mocsta wrote:On March 12 2013 11:37 marvellosity wrote:On March 12 2013 11:31 Promethelax wrote:On March 12 2013 11:26 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, I am compelled to do this during the day. I was gonna make it super-awesome but I cba.
I'm blates a cop and I want to investigate Foolish and Ver n stuff.
There we go.
Move along, nothing to see here. haha your role is the best after the game I'll laugh with the rest this is great not too late this was not a test apparently i wasn't even explicit enough according to kita. whatever. ohh.. the claim was a role requirement...? You haven't looked at my profile have you?
LOL.. gotcha 
hmm the games we played, i cant remember you claiming.. but yeah, got it.
damn it.. i was hoping marv coudl be the leader this town needed.. now we dont even know if the claim (of a town role) is valid.
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On March 12 2013 11:44 marvellosity wrote:
Apparently I have to say that I'm a parity cop with the aforementioned targets. Sadly this leaves me no wiggle room and is REALLY FUCKING DULL. YES I AM TALKING TO YOU.
LOL thats def VE hahah and I only played like 2 games with him and I can tell hahah
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On March 12 2013 11:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well in one we were all VTs and in the other I was VT and won mayor D1 and got shot N1...so I'm not surprised.
Touche 
My preference is still Bugs
Dandel needs to get off that xfire train.
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On March 12 2013 11:47 marvellosity wrote:
so how about dat Vivax lynch?
Yeah interesting points.
With 1.. the read sounds like something Toad would say
So not sure how much I count that.. other than, I didnt start to think xfire was town until he was under heat and stopped roleplaying, and started to offer his services.
(I think that came after Vivax declaration)
As for 2.
And I dont like how Vivax is baiting us to keep bugs around because of his "little theory".
I think Vivax is worthy of scrutinty, but we still need to lynch bugs.
He hasnt offered anything to the game, other than attack kurumi and prplhz without providing any sound reasoning.
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On March 12 2013 11:50 marvellosity wrote:
I trust dandel, prome, and VE more than most in this game, so it seems ok.
Foolishness is a liar and quite possibly mafia but that will have to wait.
I have townish reads on prome + VE.. but dandel?
This is my first game with him, but not seeing it marv?
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