Personality Mafia 2 - Page 24

On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:

I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand.

I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that...

Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted...

On March 11 2013 08:06 cDgCorazon wrote:

The thing is, Oats' meta is not the main part of the case. BnS laid out many reasons as to why he thinks Oats is scum and I just made a comment that I liked his case and that it had a lot of valid points in it.

Let me ask you this Marv: Would you rather I...

Say "I agree with SnB" and just vote for Oats?

or

Say "I think it's a good case but I'm going to continue to scumhunt and push my top scum read"

If you prefer #1 it would be such a glaring scumtell.

On March 11 2013 10:43 cDgCorazon wrote:

I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I still think Yamato is mafia and I am going to keep saying so until he does something to convince me otherwise.

On March 12 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:


He made one post saying that VE was "acting suspicious" and then made a bunch of other posts saying "VE is scum lynch him". Did I miss something?

His only saving grace is that he said Kurumi or Bugs was scum and now that he decided Kurumi was a good vig target he's going after bugs.

Taking an opinion of the majority of the thread and going after bugs along with everyone else is lazy town play at best.

As I've said before, something is off about Yamato. He needs to die.

On March 13 2013 13:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
You can sit here and mislynch me all you want. My death will only confirm Yamato and Mocsta being scum.

On March 14 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:


Well then why does everyone sit around and make 30 pages of shit debating whether the nukes are fake?

I'm pushing my top scumread, it's not my fault that you won't agree with me. Yamato is still my top scum read and my flip will only confirm that even more.

If you didn't notice I had a whole part about his vote on Bugs. I would not have a problem with him voting for Vivax (someone he had a scum read on earlier). The fact that he decided to vote for bugs looks really obvious that he's just trying to sheep off of everyone.

I never tried to discredit his reasoning, I just pointed out that his random decision that I was his top scum read was timed with everyone else's attack on me. Now that I'm not talked about for awhile, he stops pushing me, even though he thinks I should "die with fire", or however he phrased it.

On March 11 2013 11:06 cDgCorazon wrote:

What else am I supposed to say? You didn't ask any questions, you just came to conclusions. Not only were you lazy and basically lied about my stance on a Yamato lynch, you basically said "Corazon is scum beacuse..." and put it in question form, basically saying you do not care about my answer and that you are going to sit here and use your vote on me as an excuse to not scumhunt and post silly pictures of whatever you posted before.

Your vote is fucking stupid. Asking for the same reply I give everyone else, just with a reply to your quote, is just you trying to look like you are scumhunting. Do you really think I am scummier than Yamato or anyone else who has been discussed as possible scum so far?

On March 11 2013 12:18 cDgCorazon wrote:

Moc if you think you are scumhunting, you better look it up in the dictionary. You're piggybacking off of Vivax and Marv's arguments and you're only calling Prome's posts unreadable because he is basically saying you are playing bad.

You REALLY think Yamato is [not - sic] scummier than me? Just think about it...

On March 13 2013 13:56 cDgCorazon wrote:
Moc your case is:

Corazon is tunneling Yamato
Corazon is worried about his image (based off YOUR interpretation of my posts)

In what world is that enough to want to lynch me now? There isn't ANYONE else scummier than me?

On March 14 2013 06:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm sticking to my guns: Yamato is scum.

There's no way I've been the least productive player this game.

On March 14 2013 08:41 supersoft wrote:
sloosh I LOVE it!

good job. You gave to nukes to the right people. Really well played. Seriously.
Okay my new circle of trust:

Prom, sloosh, Foolishness, vivax, cDgCorazon.
You don't vote each other.

On March 14 2013 09:01 supersoft wrote:
issue is between these guys today:

crossfire
Oatsmaster
Marv
Yamato
Ver

On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote:

Can you summarize your post cause I don't have enough time to read this?
yamato, crossfire, marvellosity are all mafia, and should be killed in that order. The remaining two I don't know, maybe Ver or prphlz, maybe stutters or mocsta, not really sure.

On March 14 2013 10:17 iamperfection wrote:
ya marv never gets pissed when a vet attacks him thats bs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&user=140487&currentpage=All

palmar tunneled marv the entire game and marv had fits of rage several times


This looks nothing like the lazy scum marv i'm used to seeing and he shown great interest and the lynch and everything happening in the thread.

This looks like town marv to me.

On December 19 2012 05:20 syllogism wrote:
@Foolishness
Short cases are often best. I know a lot of players love to write stories describing how everything about someone's play is indicative of the person being mafia or town, but in reality a lot of it is just fluff. You have been useless and wrong about everything so far. Town foolishness it not useless and rarely this wrong.

You made a completely nonsensical attack on Marvel early on and your explanation for it is not satisfactory. You have ignored role based reasons for believing someone is town; it doesn't matter if the evidence isn't conclusive, it's still evidence. In addition you have mostly ignored players who you should have been suspicious, BH/Mementoss in particular. Overall your interest in the game can be, at best, characterized as superficial.

The only reason I'm bothering to type even this up is because I know you've previously been, as mafia, annoyed due to being lynched/suspected when there is "no case" against you (ptp3?). Just because no one bothers to articulate a case "comprehensive" case against you doesn't mean there are no good reasons for lynching you. The main purpose when making a case is to convince everyone else, not the subject of the case.

Foolishness wrote:
...He hasn't made a case against me....
...So until marvellosity makes a nice long post against me, what is there to respond to?...
...I know that when I'm town I'm happy to write nice long essays about why someone is mafia...
...If he is town, why isn't he more than happy to make a nice long case against me...

On March 14 2013 12:12 austinmcc wrote:
Digesting. One small initial thought.

I think Foolishness's post reads well. I also think that he's not being entirely truthful. The read on marv feels legitimate, but him being a batman-posting/unlynchable/1-shot vigi? That's bs. I don't trust that at all. Makes me not trust the post as a whole, because if he's actually coming clean here and making a big towncase, he's not doing a good job of it when he's also hiding/altering information. Can I prove that he's lying? Not really. Does it seem that it is? Yeah. It feels like he's crafting a role to explain all of his behavior, and that doesn't pass the smell test with me.

On March 14 2013 09:45 slOosh wrote:
<3 Vivax you are after my heart. But yea we can nail him later. Gotta focus today.

I want to lynch marv first because we have the most clout today and he is hardest to lynch today, but I assume Foolishness has a good reason to go in that order.

On March 14 2013 08:46 slOosh wrote:
Vivax is absolutely correct about marv's cherry picking:

The proper quote is
Whereas he misconstrued that what Foolishness said wasIt's misrepresentation on a side point.

On March 14 2013 21:24 Dandel Ion wrote:

Okay so here's the thing: He says he analyzed a couple people. Cool.
Town on Vivax after accusing him, purely on his meta interpretations.
Not that he actually shares those.


I somehow lost the part he writes about yamato in the quotemonster, but it's metameta too. Even some meta from completely different people, l0l. Too lazy to dig it up again, you can read it in his post yourself~.~

He also does legthy meta-blabla on marv, but I'd like to wait for marv to address that, so I'm not mentioning it yet myself.
You can read it. So, apparantly he likes to use meta, huh?

wait a minute

Dang.
Analyzing CROSS didn't come up with anything conclusive?
WHAT?
He's been playing to his mafia meta TO A TEE for most of the game, and especially and purely so on day 1.
Yet there is no mention of that, what actually would have been a legit point, in favor of "QQ he nuked me so I dun like him!!!"
That is a clear sign he did not actually look at Cross, or "analyze" him, if you will.

Yet he's stated him as a higher lynch priority than marv
On what basis?
Read the above quote.
That's his thoughts on Cross.
Does it SOUND like he's more sure of him than marv? No.
He's stated marv and yamato both to be "100%". So to want to lynch cross over marv, he would have to be 100% on him as well. Does not sound like it.


-> Scum Foolishness is scared of having marv's mislynch on his hands, since it would guarantee his death in the near future, in some way. So he wants to push yamato/cross instead.

The way he's doing it however, suggests he does NOT actually want to lynch Cross. Actual legitimate arguments against Cross are not brought up, instead we get this weaksauce omgus stuff.
This can suggest two things: Either he was too lazy to put in the effort, or, he's scum with Cross and didn't want to actually nail him to the cross (huehue), at least not yet.
Neither of the two are of a townie mindset.

Seriously read the Cross part. He's trying to call him scum without getting him lynched. Clear as day.


As I noted, I'll wait for marv to address the parts about himself first, but there's more in there too.

On March 14 2013 09:45 slOosh wrote:
<3 Vivax you are after my heart. But yea we can nail him later. Gotta focus today.

I want to lynch marv first because we have the most clout today and he is hardest to lynch today, but I assume Foolishness has a good reason to go in that order.

On March 14 2013 10:06 slOosh wrote:
He is also 100% sure that yamato is scum so that's a null point.

Instead of pointing out the (what should be) obvious gaping logical holes of scum Foolishness' "case" in determining the three reads, you go after something inane. C'mon - rip it apart marv!

There is actually plenty of reason to lynch yamato first - him flipping red does a lot to the current playing field, which is why I'm waiting on supersoft / Foolishness.

On March 14 2013 22:27 Vivax wrote:
Marv you quote the same argument against SlOosh I quoted against Acro. Just that acro went against his own reasons while SlOosh mentions two different arguments for lynching two different people.

Acro says: I think Ver is more likely scum and if the nuke is real we lynch Foolish, if it's fake we lynch Foolish tomorrow.

The nuke isn't real and he still goes against Foolish and doesn't push for a Ver lynch at all.

SlOosh says: I want to lynch marv first cause, then I want to lynch yamato first cause. All you mention are loud considerations to prefer one choice over the other which I have done plenty of times myself and is perfectly normal even for townies to do.
What acro did is not what townies usually do.

On March 14 2013 22:35 prplhz wrote:
can you guys calm down it's just a game

On March 14 2013 22:35 prplhz wrote:
can you guys calm down it's just a game

On March 14 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:

thanks bro

On March 14 2013 22:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
JOAT?

Also WHAT IN THE WORLD has Iamp done to make you think he is town?