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Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 02 2013 03:30 GMT
#131
/in

This is my first time doing one of these on a forum, but it seems interested. Count me in! :D
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#455
Sorry for the late replies everyone, I have been studying like crazy for midterms. Spring break starts today so I'll have a lot more freetime to participate now!

##vote: Krafla
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 15:04 GMT
#456
On March 08 2013 02:06 OmniEulogy wrote:
@Arctic Can give us your thoughts on what has happened so far and answer most of the questions I have asked to the others.

Been reading up on recent happenings for about 15 minutes now.

I tend to agree with Krafla, TheRavensName and OmniEulogy in that no-lynching is a bad idea. If we don't start gathering information now, then we'll be off to a disadvantage. I think if there's a possibility of lynching someone on the other side, then we should take it. This is my first game though, so I could very well be making the wrong move. I voted for Kafla, because a few other people suspected him as well, making him suspicious.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 15:17 GMT
#457
##Unvote
##Vote: nobodywonder
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 16:58 GMT
#461
On March 09 2013 00:34 TheRavensName wrote:
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On March 09 2013 00:17 Arctic Daishi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: nobodywonder


Why did you change your vote with no explination over the course of 13 minutes?

Raven and Wave retracted their votes for Karfla, I figured I would follow in suite. Sorry, I'm such a noob at this.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 20:44 GMT
#484
On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
My Case on Frorgon

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On March 07 2013 22:29 Frorgon wrote:
Good morning all.

Glad to see things picking up a bit now.

As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it.

Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute.


I believe now it is applicable to call you a lurker. I'm kind of confused as to why you think it is scummy to attack people to see their reactions and how they react under pressure. I've seen players vote on almost everybody in the game by the end of D1 who weren't scum but were fishing for information, I have yet to see scum play so ballsy.

You claim to not be afraid to call people out on things but when you tried you were almost afraid to commit and were very back and forth about it.

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On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.


"The amount you talk to yourself while nobody is here raises a red flag, everything you've said while more than 1 person has been here has been awesome!" what? This to me seems like scum trying to pretend to contribute while at the same time not trying to make anybody upset. It wouldn't have made me look at it twice if you had been active and contributing but as we all know you've made 4 posts in nearly 48 hours. This is not acceptable for town. This is the behavior of scum.

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On March 08 2013 19:15 Frorgon wrote:
Alright I'm back. In my opinion, bduddy is not making a good case for himself. That's 3 different excuses for being inactive right now due to his "busy life". I really don't care about how busy your life is.

Nobodywonder still looking real scummy. Unvotes bduddy after the terrible explanation provided. I'm thinking they could both be scum covering for each other. NW makes a case early on against bduddy without actually being serious about it so there are no reprocussions. Bduddy has his suspicion on people who in my opinion don't same overly scummy as of yet, and is defending NW.

Right now I'm narrowing down my vote between NW and bduddy and I plan to make an actual vote shortly after they respond, if they respond. There should still be a decent amount of time on the clock for D1 after my vote.


So many things wrong with your last post.
- Attacks the weakest player in the game NW, WITHOUT placing a vote. Just a casual "wow you are so scummy"
- Makes an association case between NW and Bduddy.
- Claims he will make his case and we will have plenty of time to analyze and go over it. Nice case he's made.

##Vote: Frogron

We need to step it up town. The only two players I can identify as even having a chance at being town are Krafla and Rainbows. If you are town and have been content to just stay quiet and not contribute, wake the fuck up. Nobody is getting replaced tonight, stop talking about it. Everybody has posted D1 the only way somebody is getting replaced is if they don't vote.

The following players are also on my list of potential scum

Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours.

Bduddy - Lurking, scummy, if Frogron hadn't contributed less I'd be happy to see him gone today. BUT he does claim he's been busy so for D1 he gets some slack. Could just be an uninterested townie. Nothing to really disprove that so far.

ChewOnStu - almost as bad as Frogron, really bad sheep vote. scummy.

NobodyWonder I was going to vote on for most of today but realized if he is lynched and flips town we gain nothing, I'm not against seeing him lynched as I agree he's scummy as hell but I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

And then there is also Matriarch who is lurking as well... the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.


Your strong case makes it seem as though Frorgon's scumminess is a forgone conclusion.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 21:07 GMT
#496
I honestly do not believe that nobodywonder is scummy, he seems to honestly want what's best for the town. Also, he has been very defeatist since being accused and has stated his intention of welcoming his lynching if it helps the town. I hereby:

#unvote
#Vote: Frorgon


The Omni's case against Frorgon is simply too great to ignore.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 21:08 GMT
#497
[i]The case Omni made[i]. Grammatical error, sorry, I know we can't edit.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 08 2013 21:15 GMT
#502
On March 09 2013 06:10 Frorgon wrote:
@Arctic What about Omni's case is so "great"? The claim that I have contributed the least? Because I'm pretty sure you've contributed less than me. Seems pretty easy for you to just sit back and buddy up with people without at least explaining why you like their case so much.


In this post:
On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.

You seemed rather hostile against Omni, who was very active in investigating people. Perhaps to stop his investigation?
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:02 GMT
#636
On March 09 2013 06:40 Frorgon wrote:
@ArcticDaishi There is no shame in questioning someone's logic, in this case Omni. This will hopefully lead to better analysis in the future. I don't see how this would be an attempt to stop his investigation. I don't consider my behavior towards him to have been hostile, especially since I noted how I liked a lot of the recent analysis he had made.

Meanwhile, you ignore my questions towards you completely and instead try to turn the discussion onto me. I'd still like to hear your response to my question of why you loved Omni's initial read on me so much.

Oh absolutely, there is no shame at all in questioning someone's logic. You were saying that he talked to himself too much, drawing him away from investigating other players (not you, but possibly allies?). I still think it's much too early in the game to truly decide on whether or not someone is scummy, but we must gain information somehow.

I must also admit that Omni's threaten to lynch me if I didn't vote for you played a role in it.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:06 GMT
#639
On March 09 2013 06:45 nobodywonder wrote:
I'd like Chew, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla to respond. They haven't said anything since their votes. Otherwise town gets no info from my lynch.

I second Omni's post about Arctic. I have to say you won't get any information from an Arctic lynch. On this basis, Frogron, you should change your vote on bduddy. for all your talk about contributions and your contributions in comparison to other posters such as bduddy and Arctic, you really need to make a stand



Oh wow, it would seem I have been proposed for lynching already. If you don't mind me asking, what makes me so suspicious? Other than being rather annoying and noobish?
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:13 GMT
#643
#unvote
#Vote: nobodywonder
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:19 GMT
#647
On March 09 2013 09:16 bduddy wrote:
Whether scum or not it appears that Arctic Daishi is basically clueless (or pretending to be). Not saying we should back off, just saying.

AD, you say this is your first time, but honestly, have you been reading this thread at all? Do you know how Mafia works? Because you're not showing either very well right now.

I get the general idea, we vote for who we think the mafia-man is, yes?
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:23 GMT
#648
On March 09 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Wow. So now that Daishi has moved his vote to defend himself without even explaining I think we're pretty clear on where he stands.
As for the rest of you guys, you'd better move your votes onto him right now if you dont want a mislynch.

Well I know I'm not the mafia guy, so why would I vote for myself?
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:33 GMT
#654
Ah well, it looks like I'm being lynched guys. It was fun playing with you, though I was somewhat confused by some of the rules and what not. I tried to keep up (reading) with the thread as best I could though I wasn't as active as I'd liked to have been.

Thanks for the opportunity to play Acrofales, Marvellosity and Mocsta. Thanks for the advice and help, Promethelax. And thanks to everyone for playing with me! Maybe we should do this again sometime, I'm sure I'll be better in the future.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:41 GMT
#661
On March 09 2013 09:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
The problem here is, like OE said if he was using his coach, his coach certainly would've been telling him not to afk the whole day and to actually contribute to the scumhunt, of which he did neither.

Worst case scenario, he is bad townie (downgrade that to completely useless townie) and wasn't of any help to us anyway. Better than mislynching a townie who is actually helpful.

I wasn't expecting the game to start until a few days from now, so I was really caught off guard by how it already started. I had midterms and college. He tried to give me some good advice, but it was too late, it's not his fault though, it's mine for being so unprepared.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:46 GMT
#664
On March 09 2013 09:41 TheRavensName wrote:
Arctic, your being lynched because you only show up to vote on band wagons and when asked for opinions or reasons you never respond to them. That makes you incredibly scummy. Even if it your not scum, if your going to jump on evey band wagon thats a liability later in if the scum starts one up. You have to be able to think for yourself and not really on others if you can help it in Mafia, and your not doing a good job of showing you can do that. You've even shown that up until now you haven't been reading the thread all that well if at all.


Yeah, I realize that now, I still didn't really know how to play and everyone kept saying to vote for other people. I figured I'd just go along with the crowd until I better understood the game. I'll be sure not to make the same mistake in future games. It really has been a lot of fun though and I think I've got it down now for the most part.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:53 GMT
#665
Just a few minutes left now, good game. Thanks again everyone and sorry for being such a noob.

Oh and...
+ Show Spoiler +
You got me.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:56 GMT
#668
On March 09 2013 09:55 bduddy wrote:
Well... good job, team. Or something like that, anyway.

You know you can do that after you actually get lynched, right?

I know, it just wouldn't make a difference either way.
Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
March 09 2013 00:59 GMT
#672
On March 09 2013 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol well if true it was a valiant attempt with half an hour to go to try and get your innocence going.
Hopefully you learn a little for next time!

Thanks, I thought the mention of Promethelax was particularly witty.
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