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Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 23:25:58
March 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#1421
GG everyone.

So I thought that Rainbows played the best. Solid town contributions all while not getting the mafia to go after him too hard. There wasn't much for me to do after a while because I felt like I couldnt add anything to his excellent cases.

Wave played extremely well too, almost too well. Was confirmed town for me after Day 1 but I didn't want to say anything to draw attention to him though. Guess mafia sensed his influence though. Obviously with that kind of play he put a target on his head though and died for it.

My thought process was this: Don't speak unless I have something new to add to the discussion. I thought it worked decently because I pushed hard to hold up Wave's mantle and get a Luneth lynch Day 3. Then essentially plugging the idea for the offensive jailing at the end of the game that finished it. But I was also scared to draw too much attention to myself. I'm thinking this is something to avoid in the future though because if I don't die, somebody else will. Might as well try to do as much as I can. But anyway I never made those huge quote filled cases because I trusted people were actually reading. Hoping what I said was decent most of the time. Most of my reads ended up being pretty good I think. This was my first game ever so I was learning as I went. I guess I must have pissed mafia off somehow if they targeted me night 3! Surprised they didnt go for Rainbows.

PS: I was not lying about my day 1 lurking due to stomach virus. That shit sucked! I remember waking up thinking that I had to drag myself to the computer and post so I wouldnt be accused of lurking, but then being like "fuck it Im going to puke".

Edit (Now that I can): I hope none of the newbie players got offended by any shit talking. It's just part of the game and I'm sure nothing anybody said was personal. Wave got me into playing this and warned me beforehand that he would not necessarily be nice haha
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#1422
On March 18 2013 08:10 OmniEulogy wrote:
gg town! well played guys Rainbow MVP


Omni, props to you for being so blatantly town-aligned despite being on the wrong tracks most of the game.

Idk how much of this game I'd be able to play, takes a lot of time, and I'm sure even more when people are more active. In any case, signed up for the next newbie -- 9 player game? Shouldn't be too long. Spring break coming up as well so I can no life it :D
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#1423
nah, Frogon I felt like I had a reasonable town read on you early and it continued when I went back and read you a few other times. I think my N2 target could've been better, I as 100% on Raven as town and thought she was making the most sense so I protected her instead of Wave. I think if I hadn't tunneled as hard as I did on OE I would've seen it but eh.

Also OE, I hope no hard feelings. I'm very curious how Rainbow had that strong of a read on you because I didn't get that at all.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#1424
On March 18 2013 08:27 Rainbows wrote:
Omni, props to you for being so blatantly town-aligned despite being on the wrong tracks most of the game.
:D

What did you see that you came to this conclusion because I obviously didn't. It was just after you became more active that I felt I had a good read on you; plus the MLuneth stuff made total sense.
My only criticism of your play (and take this with a grain of salt clearly) is that I'd like to see more open thought process from you.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#1425
On March 18 2013 08:30 geript wrote:
nah, Frogon I felt like I had a reasonable town read on you early and it continued when I went back and read you a few other times. I think my N2 target could've been better, I as 100% on Raven as town and thought she was making the most sense so I protected her instead of Wave. I think if I hadn't tunneled as hard as I did on OE I would've seen it but eh.

Also OE, I hope no hard feelings. I'm very curious how Rainbow had that strong of a read on you because I didn't get that at all.


It's hard to explain. Firstly, the way the AD lynch went I really thought all scum were on top of NW (which, incidentally, they were). Also, Omni was being very pro-town in general. Being wrong doesn't necessarily mean you are scum. I had my gripes like that huge question post, but overall I think his answers and motives seemed more townie than anything else. Especially that one post where he was like 'omg you guys can't all be scummy lurkers -.-' just spoke of a frustrated townie wanting to get reads on people, whereas scum would have embraced the lurky environment.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 17 2013 23:34 GMT
#1426
hmmm, I'll have to reread his filter next weekend.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 17 2013 23:35 GMT
#1427
Hold on let me find the quote
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 17 2013 23:38 GMT
#1428
On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 17 2013 23:45 GMT
#1429
On March 18 2013 08:33 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 08:27 Rainbows wrote:
Omni, props to you for being so blatantly town-aligned despite being on the wrong tracks most of the game.
:D

What did you see that you came to this conclusion because I obviously didn't. It was just after you became more active that I felt I had a good read on you; plus the MLuneth stuff made total sense.
My only criticism of your play (and take this with a grain of salt clearly) is that I'd like to see more open thought process from you.


I think I told you something about looking at his mindset and mentality when you asked in PMs. Omni was clearly working for town goals and pushing a town agenda (albeit pushing some things wrong) you can pretty much always assume that the most active player who is saying things and trying to push lynches and really cares about the lynch is town. Not 100% of the time but its a good heuristic to start with.

You guys also had teh day one vote counts which were never (as far as I know) analyzed well. When you lynch scum you MUST look at the voting patterns and the cases surrounding that player. Omni's day one play made it obvious he was not scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 18 2013 00:06 GMT
#1430
I feel like inactivity killed mafia too. I mean nobody was active at all on day 1. I think Matriarch had some personal issues so thats too bad. Sn0 got put in a tough situation, I feel like if he was there from day 1 he could've wreaked more havoc. I mean the fact that there was a delay as Acro searched for a replacement rather than a modkill made me suspect scum even more.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 18 2013 00:59 GMT
#1431
gg everyone, thanks for not killing me D1 gl rainbow, omni, geript, wave and raven

my reads were off and I wasn't sure if Omni was townie for the longest time. For some reason in the back of my head, I just had a conspiracy theory that Omni might be mafia. and sorry Taco.

mafia should have been active, there should have been at least one active mafia pointing out reads and causing chaos. town knew more or less most actives weren't scum, so it was just pressuring lurkers and the scum reacted at times quite badly
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 01:12:55
March 18 2013 01:12 GMT
#1432
FWIW I'm convinced that the game should have been winnable and I misplayed fairly badly. Ah well first game. Thanks guys

Edit: First SCUM game, that is
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 18 2013 02:43 GMT
#1433
Yay we did it!
Geript i gotta ask about your breadcrumbs.
Aside from the ones i picked up on, what was going on?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 18 2013 02:54 GMT
#1434
I was trying to be on the cusp of being lynchable. Proactive enough that that wouldn't see me as a threat but a reasonable lynch target. I also wanted to play around with the trolling style some. It's definitely fun. I don't think it helped me get my points across though.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 18 2013 03:02 GMT
#1435
I noticed you trying out the trolling style; that's what I figured. So the nutter butters didn't actually mean anything? I think I thought at first it was a mason thing because you had to 'share' them with someone? lol
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 18 2013 03:10 GMT
#1436
Nutter butters at night = target protected.nutter butters during day = I liked the post and thought you were town.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 18 2013 03:12 GMT
#1437
Haha damn I wasn't going to pick up on that at all.
Well gg town; it was kind of an uncharacteristically easy game it seemed. GL in the next one!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 18 2013 03:30 GMT
#1438
^ ahh i see. interesting use of nutter butters

btw hosts are you still going to update the flavor for day 2, night 1? just wondering...anyways this flavor was racist to me, because I play terran. I wanted to kill them zerglings.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 18 2013 11:51 GMT
#1439
Fun game. Good work town. Sorry I wasn't more helpful, hopefully I'll get better with practice!
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 18 2013 16:05 GMT
#1440
I'm still wondering how Matriarch managed to guess properly to roleblock you.
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