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Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 07 2013 22:38 GMT
#388
Or the fact that a few of us are starting to draw the same conclusions might mean we're onto something!

On March 08 2013 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's mafia for you.

Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 08 2013 10:38 GMT
#454
Good morning, I'm going to start off my day with

##Vote: nobodywonder

I was expecting a post from him highlighting my failings, namely my unfortunate post timing and my inability to make a decision, so here's my decision. I also expect he'll call me out for bandwagoning and just jumping on him to hide myself because everyone else was voting for him, so let me nip that one in the bud and explain myself.

I was hoping to wait a little bit longer and find someone else to vote for who appeared more suspicious, although as it stands at the moment I can't. Saying that, I noted that nobodywonder wanted to play hard with the lurkers, which I completely understand, yet he has a go at me for making similar suggestions, we were just going about it different ways.

On March 08 2013 08:53 nobodywonder wrote:
...i'd say the most suspicious active is Krafla

he hasn't really contributed. all he says is to reserve judgment and not vote, but his gut says a no-lynch would be a bad thing.
i'd say that's a contradiction and that he should really be actively pursuing leads...


I've now realised that a no-lynch would be bad for us due to not giving us any information and basically giving the mob a walkover on day 1. The only two people that I've had suspicions about so far have been nobodywonder and MeatlessTaco.

nobodywonder asked why I was suspicious of MeatlessTaco, the only reason was his unrelenting attack early on in the game, I realise now that this might have just been to promote discussion. At the moment Meatless has done well getting discussion out of people, so for that alone I'm not going to vote for him. nobodywonder at the best hasn't created any discusion and at the worst has suggested some people who might be masons. This might not be classic scum play, but it's definitely not helpful town play.
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 09 2013 19:46 GMT
#720
Good evening all, sorry for my period of absence over the lynch. Well done on catching a scum on Day 1! I'm going to go back and read what happened and then prepare a post for the start of Day 2, I don't see it being productive to share my thoughts in the middle of a night and offer scum something to think about!
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 09 2013 20:41 GMT
#724
On March 10 2013 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oops that whole thing should've been in spoilers. Oh well.

Krafla I hope you see how scummy you look to the rest of us right now; I'm not sure I care if you get targeted N1. Explain your vote process for D1 and any new reads you have please.


Yeah I realise how bad I look now, so I'm just going to have to try extra hard scum hunting in Day 2.

My vote process for Day 1 was exactly as I originally explained it. I didn't want a no-lynch and instead of lynching an inactive in Day 1 and getting little information out if it, I thought it better to lynch someone who would give us some information by letting us read into their posts. As I mentioned I had doubts on nobodywonder and MeatlessTaco but I felt that Meatless had promoted more interesting conversation than nobodywonder, so that's where I placed my vote.

Bear in mind that I made this decision before the large amount of posts that occurred before the lynch, ie before Arctic became more active and before people even considered trying to get the town to switch from nobodywonder to Arctic.

Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 10 2013 00:05 GMT
#763
Right so seeing as we're after deadline.

I am a one-shot cop I checked MLuneth tonight and as soon as I get my result back I will tell you the result.
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 10 2013 00:22 GMT
#774
I was roleblocked
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 10 2013 00:24 GMT
#777
I'm disappointed to have been roleblocked, but ecstatic there was no nightkill!
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 10 2013 00:34 GMT
#787
Aahh, be quick, it's way past my bedtime!
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 10 2013 00:52 GMT
#801
On March 10 2013 09:36 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 09:34 Krafla wrote:
Aahh, be quick, it's way past my bedtime!


it's only what.. 2:30am there?

it's unfortunate if you are telling the truth and got RB'd knowing Luneth's alignment on top of no NK would have been really nice.


I'ts 12:30 here. The reason I didn't post last night was because I was out at a beer festival, I didn't want to post drunk and figured the best way to avoid a lynch was to keep quiet.

I wanted to avoid the lynch so I could help the town by using my cop ability. Now with hindsight, because I probably wasn't in much danger to get shot tonight, I probably should've waited till tomorrow night to use my ability. The main reason I used it tonight was to try and give us the best information possible, as soon as possible.

My initial thoughts concerning WoS' RB is that he was saved from getting shot tonight. If we follow this line of thought through, I'm sure we can make a few educated guesses as to why WoS was targetted.

The other thing I'm going to think about is why was I role blocked? I'm guessing the mob RB'd me (because we've already established that I likely wasn't a high priority target for the mob to target) however there must've been enough suspicions that I had a blue role. Were my actions on Day 1 indicative of a blue? If you want to go back and read my filter I'm sure you'll notice that I wasn't quick to point fingers and I tried to stay out of a lot of argument. This was mainly because I didn't want to draw attention to myself and let the town lose my ability.

It's now nearly 1, I've spent most of the day hungover and the better half is calling me to bed, so I'll catch you all tomorrow! Sorry to run away like this, but I think on the whole this has gotta be good news for the town, we've still got a full compliment and the mob is down by one. We're definitely winning at the moment!

Now that I don't have anything to hide or be careful of you can expect a bit more activity from me in the future.
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 10 2013 00:54 GMT
#806
On March 10 2013 09:47 OmniEulogy wrote:
@Krafla did you leave any bread crumbs to prove that you are 1 shot cop or that you were targetting Luneth tonight?


I did not breadcrumb, I didn't want to risk mafia finding it and I wasn't confident enough in my ability to hide something without it being obvious.

Good night!

Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 09:44 GMT
#963
Good morning all, sorry I've been MASSIVELY INACTIVE again.

So it looks like the vote at the moment is between MLuneth or MeatlessTaco.

I was initially suspicious of MeatlessTaco due to his aggressive nature, but early on I decided against a vote for him because he'd contributed more than nobodywonder. Now by the time night one rolled around I'd been convinced by reading through the thread that a check on MLuneth would provide a better return than a check on Meatless.

It turns out it didn't matter who I made a check on because I got roleblocked. Now (Warning speculation) assuming I was RB'd by the scum and not by the town, who do you think the Mafia would've seen as my most likely target?

Especially over the night there was a lot of speculation towards MLuneth, which is what persuaded me to use my check on MLuneth. Now if I picked MLuneth as the person most warranting a check, what are the chances that the mob second guessed me and blocked me?

For the moment I'm going to

##Vote: MLuneth

primarily because even though he was active at the time he didn't switch his vote when near the end of Day 1 whilst town was coming to the consensus that a vote on AD was better.

Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#984
That was my point, what is the chance that they would guess it?
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 17:05 GMT
#991
On March 12 2013 01:31 Frorgon wrote:
Krafla, I don't know how you expect the mafia to have suspected you for targeting Luneth unless you post saying "I checked Luneth" didn't actually go through after the deadline. I was always a little scared when you posted that because there had been no official call to the end of N1. Otherwise, yes, the chances were slim that they would have guessed and landed on you, but it could've happened. I don't see any other way for them to have known.


Yeah I have no idea why anyone would suspect me other than me keeping quiet. I did post my claim 5 minutes after the deadline and the deadline was explicitly referenced as being "in 36 minutes" at 24 minutes past the hour..

On March 10 2013 08:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 08:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh wow, not sure how I missed that.
Thanks.

Responding as it may not be fully clear.

Action submission deadline is in 36min as per OP.

Cycle deadline is typically in 1hr36min.


For Night 1 *only*; cycle deadline will occur roughly in 1hours time (with a 15min give-or-take).

The Day 2 cycle will be extended to compensate (i.e. 48hrs + the extra ~30min (give or take))


The only other person to suggest a reason as to why I was RB'd (apart from me potentially posting before the deadline?) was TheRavensName here. At the moment this is the best reason I can think of.

On March 10 2013 09:57 TheRavensName wrote:
Well Krafia did state a couple of times he had cases and had no intention of revealing them till after day 2 started. I suppose you could use this as semi eviddence or slight bread crumbing. Mafia could have easily picked up on this and blocked him.




Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 17:08 GMT
#992
Is MLuneth currently set to be lynched?
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 17:20 GMT
#995
I think you're right, I've just gone and counted through them since the last count.

On March 12 2013 02:15 marvellosity wrote:
Vote Count

OmniEulogy (1): geript, geript
MLuneth (4): WaveofShadow, Rainbows, Frorgon, Krafla
MeatlessTaco (4): OmniEulogy, TheRavensName, bduddy, nobodywonder, geript
Rainbows (1): MLuneth

No vote: MeatlessTaco, Matriarch

MeatlessTaco is currently set to be lynched. 7h 45mins until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.

If there's a mistake, let me know!

Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 17:24 GMT
#996
On March 12 2013 02:09 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 09:04 Mocsta wrote:
Vote Count

Krafla (0): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, Arctic Daishi
MLuneth (0): Rainbows, nobodywonder
nobodywonder (4): MeatlessTaco, ChewOnStu, Rainbows, TheRavensName, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla, Arctic Daishi
bduddy (0): nobodywonder, Frorgon
Arctic Daishi (6): MLuneth. WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, bduddy, OmniEulogy, MeatlessTaco, Frorgon
ChewOnStu (0): Rainbows, MeatlessTaco, TheRavensName, nobodywonder
TheRavensName (0): bduddy
Frorgon (2): OmniEulogy, Rainbows, WaveofShadow, Arctic Daishi
MeatlessTaco (1): OmniEulogy, Frorgon, nobodywonder

No vote:
F
Arctic Daishi is currently set to be lynched. 1 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.


To me this is the biggest evidence against meatless. If mafia wanted to save arctic they could have jumped oon meatless, which would put him in the lynch and saved arctic by keeping omni and frogon on meatless and off arctic and then they could have blamed omni,s case and might have gotten away with it or built time to make new myslynch cases together afterwards. Mluneth still just seems like a guess to me by most people.


You've sold me on this one TheRavensName. This is definitely better evidence than we have on MLuneth at the moment. And looking back at Meatless' aggressive opening this definitely seems like a safer lynch option.

##Unvote
##Vote: MeatlessTaco
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 17:26 GMT
#997
bah, I didn't bold it

##Unvote
##Vote: MeatlessTaco
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 18:42 GMT
#999
On March 12 2013 03:39 Rainbows wrote:
That feel when stagnated discussion.


What do you think of MeatlessTaco?
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 18:45 GMT
#1000
Actually let me rephrase that. What do you think about TheRavensName's suggestion as to why to vote for MeatlessTaco instead of MLuneth? Especially considering that MeatlessTaco hasn't talked at all in Day 2
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#1044
On March 12 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote:
Vote Count

OmniEulogy (0): geript, geript
MLuneth (2): WaveofShadow, Rainbows, Frorgon, MeatlessTaco
MeatlessTaco (8): OmniEulogy, TheRavensName, bduddy, nobodywonder, geript, Krafla, geript, WaveofShadow, Frorgon
Rainbows (1): MLuneth

No vote: Matriarch

MeatlessTaco is currently set to be lynched. 2 and a half hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.

If there's a mistake, let me know!



I had voted for MLuneth, and then changed my vote to MeatlessTaco
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