• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:49
CET 05:49
KST 13:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion5Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1580 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVIII - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 22:23 GMT
#554
@Wave yeah either Taco or Daishi seemed to be the plan. But I wanted to reassure myself by looking at some filters and I just wanted to point out what I didn't like.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 22:28 GMT
#557
@Omni If we vote scum on D1 it trumps anything else we could do. If Arctic was lynched and did indeed flip as scum we could use that information to pressure others who are behaving similarly. And I think it would be quite plausible to see his votes as town since they have all been bandwagon votes. I don't think scum would vote off one of their own on D1 unless it looks like that person isn't actually going to receive the most votes.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 23:49 GMT
#630
##Unvote
##Vote: Arctic Daishi

I want to make sure we come to a consensus here. We can worry about Taco on D2.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 09 2013 00:11 GMT
#641
Well it certainly doesn't help your cause that you were apparently oblivious of this until just now when the vote totals were posted again. So apparently you don't read the thread. Regardless of whether you're scum or not, you're not doing anything to help town.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 09 2013 00:36 GMT
#658
Well you had a half hour left and you just gave up already. Oh well.

I will just add that this should not be cause for anyone to change their vote. He could be playing dumb in order to fool us into thinking he's a bad townie and changing our votes.

All the NW voters, where the fuck are you?
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#687
Great job everyone. Day 1 lynching of scum in a newbie game? I'll take it!
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 09 2013 01:19 GMT
#692
I am definitely willing to take another look at Taco, but right now I'm very suspicious of those who never came back and answered for their vote on NW. Wave's point on Luneth is very good because he never changed the vote, maybe in hopes that he'd get the lynch on NW and save arctic. He's also looking scummiest to me atm.

Also Omni, when I made my vote it was still tied with NW receiving the most votes first. So he was still set to be lynched. I was never completely convinced of your case against Taco. And Arctic certainly seemed scummy to me so why not change over to save NW? I was pretty sure at that point that not enough people would come over to Taco anyway to prevent a NW lynch.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#702
It's just that at the moment there are people who look a lot worse. For example, Luneth coming back in to try to show that he is here, stating that he will be reading through filters to see about a possible vote change, only to disappear again without changing the vote.

If anything, Taco's comments tonight have been good.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 09 2013 23:20 GMT
#754
I think it's a scum tactic for Luneth to vote AD early on when the vote could easily be changed later, especially his explanation for it. The explanation of it being just a pressure vote almost seems like a hidden way to discourage others from voting for Arctic. It's basically saying "my vote's not serious, and I have no good reasoning behind it." Then again, at the time of Luneth's vote, AD was still mostly under the radar.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 00:29 GMT
#783
I'm surprised Krafla was roleblocked. I don't feel like he was suspicious enough to be roleblocked by town. So either the mafia took a shot in the dark and got lucky, or he's lying.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 02:32 GMT
#839
I was initially suspicious of OE, due to questionable reads, and the fact that I think at least one of the mafia is going to be trying to post a lot to cause confusion and paranoia. Now after a full day has passed, we have seen nothing but reads with holes in them. Although if he wanted an easy town lynch, he could've pressed harder for NW rather than changing his vote to Taco, who at that point had no votes. Of course it is possible that he cast the Taco vote in order to avoid looking suspicious while hoping that Arctic wouldn't acquire enough votes to overcome NW.

At this point I'm not so sure I can suspect Geript because he replaced someone who was a lurker. And the lurking was the main thing making Chew look scummy. I assume the replacement was because Chew was no longer available. There's not much to work off of there as of now.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#854
I've been looking through Rainbows' filter to try to get a read on him.

Despite the disappearance, I'm still leaning town on him.

- Wave offers to hunt scum with him. He declines. If he was scum I feel like he would have been more willing to go along with it because he might be able to influence Wave's decision making to his liking that way.

- Changes his vote to me after claiming that a NW bandwagon gives scum an easy chance to hide.

- Any return and vote change would probably have made him look even more suspicious than he does now. If he returned and voted for Arctic it would have looked like a buss, and if he returned and voted for NW it would have looked like he was trying to defend Arctic.

The isn't entirely conclusive so I would still like to hear from Rainbows himself about his thoughts on what has happened since he left.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 03:29 GMT
#858
Well Omni, it's easy to say that Wave and Raven are the only ones besides yourself who have made a real case, because they made the case against confirmed scum. But I'd argue that others have made cases as well. It's kind of useless to list almost every player in the game in order to somehow claim that you are superior. Who's to say you've made a real case? Just because you've said a lot and quoted people, it doesn't automatically confirm that you've made a real case.

I agree that Geript needs to be more useful. He needs to make reads and give opinions. I don't like his just sitting back and casting one liners at people without adding anything else.

I disagree that Taco keeps making himself worse. He made a decent attempt at some reads just now. For example he could have easily spun his read on me to claim that I was scum because people are still unsure about me, but he didn't His scum read on Krafla is reasonable because I'm also suspicious that Krafla was lying.

So tell me Omni, what about Taco's behavior lately is making him look more scummy?
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 05:37 GMT
#870
I'm glad you've come back to give your thoughts Rainbows. And strong reads indeed. Luneth needs to stop expecting others to do work for him.

##Vote: MLuneth
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 19:29 GMT
#886
@bduddy Just to clarify a few things, while Rainbows made a decent case, his case isn't necessarily the reason for a MLuneth "bandwagon". MLuneth was already looking incredibly scummy before Rainbows gave his opinion, and if you review the N1 posts you see that WoS and myself were already pointing at Luneth as the scummiest looking person.

As far as Krafla, I agree that it could be a total lie, but you need to actually read the discussion about this. Basically, if WoS was jailed, it makes it entirely possible that Mafia randomly chose who to roleblock and chose correctly. This has already been explained. And it's fairly plausible because Krafla wasn't very active on D1 but blues don't necessarily want to look too threatening off the bat.

I'd also like you to try to explain why we should be voting for OE rather than to try and get Rainbows to do all the work and tell you why you shouldn't. Or are you trying to keep quiet?

@Matriarch where are you?
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 21:04 GMT
#895
On March 11 2013 05:50 bduddy wrote:
Speaking of the other piece of information we have - would it be at all worth it for our town roleblocker to claim now with who they blocked? I guess he's not a one-shot or he presumably would have done so already, but getting rid of another mafia in exchange for that seems like a good trade to me. Of course there are risks - fakeclaims, maybe we have more than one roleblocker, maybe the mafia is pulling some ridiculous gambit - I'm not saying anyone should do it now, I just want to start a discussion.


Whoa whoa whoa...

I don't see any reason for anyone else to blue claim right now unless they want to make themselves a target for the Mafia. Especially considering that the roleblock was not likely placed on the mafia. Or if the roleblocker was able to RB the mafia with kill power, the mafia roleblocker would use that information to roleblock him and ensure that the kill goes through next time. That is a terrible idea.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 23:42 GMT
#915
Taco is lurking pretty badly at this point too. I keep seeing the same people post and it's really not helping us, because at this point it's getting hard to say something that hasn't already been said. Without new information, we can't build new cases or defenses. It's the perfect environment for scum because they are not pressured to appear. And the more the same people analyze each other, the less reliable the reads are going to get. Neither Luneth or Taco have shown up since the start of D1 and we're now halfway through. My vote stays on Luneth for now because he still looks worse, but I'd like to see both of them show up and contribute.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 10 2013 23:43 GMT
#916
And of course the more people the better. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that these same people are always talking. It's bad that it's only around half of what we need.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 11 2013 01:06 GMT
#930
After the great case by NW I can see myself lynching Taco D3 if Luneth is mislynched today. Especially the last bit about how Taco wanted to stfu when he should be actively proving he is town instead. The same goes for Luneth tomorrow if Taco is mislynched today. Then I would probably look to Matriarch.

I mean it's pretty tough to tell until they talk today, and they're going to have to vote at some point. That will help me know what my priority order is. I mean Matriarch could take the heat off of herself pretty easily at this point if she would contribute something.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 11 2013 02:49 GMT
#951
@Wave I certainly plan on being here throughout the day tomorrow because it is possible I could change my vote depending on what these lurkers say.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
All-Star Invitational
03:00
Day 2
herO vs SolarLIVE!
Clem vs Reynor
Rogue vs Oliveira
WardiTV926
PiGStarcraft675
EnkiAlexander 106
3DClanTV 56
davetesta38
IntoTheiNu 14
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 2
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft675
WinterStarcraft522
RuFF_SC2 133
IndyStarCraft 92
BRAT_OK 72
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17695
EffOrt 110
Shuttle 76
Noble 31
ajuk12(nOOB) 24
Models 20
Icarus 10
Dota 2
monkeys_forever141
febbydoto36
League of Legends
JimRising 736
C9.Mang0487
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King26
Other Games
summit1g7672
KnowMe731
minikerr21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1777
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 61
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt431
Other Games
• Scarra955
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 12m
OSC
7h 12m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
15h 12m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
15h 12m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Wardi Open
1d 7h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
The PondCast
3 days
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.