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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 02:53 GMT
#2753
D&Ding. Quite frankly, I don't think there'd just be a Scum day vig. I think Dr. H scum slipped. If that's true, then Chez is town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 05:38 GMT
#2779
On March 02 2013 13:43 Wade Fell wrote:
also geript is clearly chez' scumbuddy

Are you dumb? You think I'm Chez's scumbuddy aye? Then why aren't you voting for me instead? You're a good enough player to actively think. If Chez had a second shot (as scum), then he likely would've taken if it were available. As there is nothing in the rules that I see against firing twice in one day (you can correct me if I'm wrong), then I think he would've taken it as scum. If you think that we're scum buddies, then you SHOULD be voting for me. I thought you were a good plaery BH? If Chez is scum and out of bullets, then you should be removing my scum role from the game. This is pretty shady either way.

I'm suspicious of almost everyone at this point and quite frankly I don't give a fuck about this game anymore; all this game is is a vet circle jerk anyways. I still think the Doc's not town; I dropped the Doc case because I thought I had a much stronger case on VE. I was wrong. Who cares; I don't. I was happy when I got 1 case right in the last game. I still think WoS is scum. I still think VE was talking about talking about WoS. The tend to push what's my strongest read at the time. You don't like it, deal with it. Since the only way I see to push my reads at this point is prove their reads wrong, then PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!!!

Note: If you think that Chez is scum and I'm not, then you need to vote for Chez. But if you think that we're both scum, then VOTE FOR ME!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:22 GMT
#2788
Trying to hedge your best Doc? Afraid I'll flip town?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:46 GMT
#2799
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:50 GMT
#2800
On February 26 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think Geript is a stupid newbie and OO is my best guess at scum (jcarlsoniv maybe). Day 1 crapshoot and all but why would you wait like 8 posts after your "read" (talking about how you don't have any reads/reasons in between it) then after there's pressure on you you finally have an explanation?

I'd hope to see people putting more effort into their accusations beyond "lol this guy is mafia". I'm not sure why he would throw in such a half assed "vote for me" post as mafia, but that's all WIFOM bullshit anyway.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.


Gerpit is the top scum read because he would make a bad lynch regardless if he's town or scum? That's not a reason, you're just calling him stupid more or less. Mafia like to jump on stupid townies don't they? OO has been immediately antagonistic to anyone disagreeing with him also. That's not really indicative of alignment but it certainly isn't protown. Convince me you aren't scum, don't bother trying to explain how Geript is a great scumread because it's not.

Lynch me now. Enjoy it Dr.H. I'm even helping you lynch me nor am I in any way intending to move my vote to anyone other than you or WoS.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:53 GMT
#2803
Your mistake is in thinking that I haven't been reading the thread. That don't or can't remember a majority of the posts and who made them. I make mental notes of everything and then go back to confirm them in re-reading. I said I'd be reading this thread more than anyone else. Just because I haven't posted as much as others, doesn't mean I'm not doing it. Eat your words.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:58 GMT
#2808
Nope, I stand behind my reads. If they were wrong, then they were wrong. But that's how I see them; you don't like them, think they're shit well I don't give a damn. I try and re-evaluate as I go on and yes, like everyone else, I can and do change my mind. VE still lied left and right the whole fucking game. If you didn't go back and read his pages, then that's on you not me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:59 GMT
#2811
On March 02 2013 15:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what, you wanna die just to prove a point to me that I'm an idiot or something?

No, I want to get you lynched/shot.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 07:04 GMT
#2819
Hey Doc, how many town reads have you given out?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 07:46 GMT
#2828
On March 02 2013 13:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How could he possibly not conclude I am scum earlier than now? There is absolutely no town reason to do either of those 2 things, yet he was unwilling to call me out on either point.

I already said that I previously liked a number of your previous posts. I was back and forth on you. Not anymore.

He does not talk about Prom at all and makes no effort to push his original scumread through out the progression of Day 1. As though making his case was enough contribution to blend in.

When people don't like my initial post, I went back re-read. Though more and started working on making it better while tabling it to look at other players. I don't mind waiting as I'm generally quite patient.

Doesn't see the martrying as scummy (most unbelievably scummy thing a player can do) and misses the incredible scumslip logic in Prom's farewell. Never mentions it until asked.

Am I not allowed to be wrong? I didn't agree with it in my read.

It is an attempt to assure Promethelax is lynched.

Isn't this the point that I brought up? Funny, I bring it up AND point out that it made me look scummy. Reasonable to as scum give you the bullets to shoot at me?

Why would a town player be actively opposed to being pardoner anyway? I'm never going to use the power so it ends up meaning nothing to me as an individual.

When there's a safety play at IMPs in bridge, only an idiot doesn't make it. MPs is different, but at IMPs you make the damn safety play as the risk of gaining 1 IMP at the cost of 11 IMPs just isn't worth it. That's my take on it at least. Perfect town victory doesn't matter and doesn't happen. With a clear safety play available, I made the attempt at it.

It doesn't matter. He can't explain what is town about what I'm doing, just that he is able to follow my logic. But he clearly doesn't accept or believe that I'm not just trying to steal pardoner. Later he calls me a liar.

Town players here's a multiple choice question:
1. Player X is making a clear attempt to steal the pardoner role. He is lying about the intentions of his mayoral campaign and trying to stop a popular town candidate from getting mayor. What conclusion can you come to:
A. This player is scum
B. This player is third party
C. This player is town
D. Null

Anyone who doesn't pick A or B is lying to themselves.

You've admitted to being back and forth to some extent on things in your head... Am I not allowed to be mixed in opinion?

Never again pushes WoS. He is not at all concerned about who is lynched Day 1, but very concerned with making sure people are suspicious of me.

So now I'm guilty for pushing people I'm suspicious of or pushing my suspicions so that other people see them? What's wrong with that?

Again with the pardoner conspiracies, not attempting to push scumreads. I thought this guy was gonna filter dive all game?

So me attacking VE for my opinions of him isn't trying to create an argument?

VE dies that night as town. Irrelevant, as mafia I would not ever avoid attacking a town player I accused of being scum.

WIFOM either way. While I agree that (verbally) attacking or making a case against someone who you intend to kill isn't bad scum play, it doesn't make it great scum play either.

A liar who tried to steal pardoner isn't enough for a lynch? Huh? How could that lie possibly be useful?

You're right. It couldn't. You're scum.

Also, if you're allowed to misread the thread, then I can do it too. Especially when I got to read the thread around 9, 2, 6, 8 and now.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 17:07 GMT
#2858
On March 03 2013 01:59 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:
No bites? Lets try again

On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript

I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations.

The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot.

Geript, no idea what role he possesses.

@ALL

Thoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript?


I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.




Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever.

You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling.

I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed.


I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip.


Hmmm That does look like a complete slip. Only people who have to defend their reads are town. I'm fingering 2 people WoS and Dr. Hmmmmmmm.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 17:33 GMT
#2870
On March 03 2013 02:32 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 02:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
and @TestSubject, go read Ver's guide, go look at some good townplay in other threads, there's always aggression. I've relentlessly attacked people I didn't have strong reads are because it forces me to come to a conclusion based on their responses. Look how hard I grilled WoS early in this game on more or less one/two sentences. He responded well and that null/unsure read got pushed into a town read. You have to push your null reads so they swing one way or the other, if you just sit on a null read then you're not ever going to have an opinion.


Ok, I'll read the guide. The fear I have with pushing null reads is that if they turn out to be town it makes me look scummy, and wastes the town's time by making them go after me next. For example, early in this game, when my read on you was null and I pointed that out. You've had me pegged as scummy ever since.

Who hasn't he had pegged as scummy at one point or another.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 18:15 GMT
#2879
For those of you who are taking my previous town meta into play, I want you to ask yourself one question: "How many of those posts do you think I got coaching on?"
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#2882
I've been pushing for who I thought was the most scum at the time as I could. If you don't like that then you know where you can go. In the least by martyring myself I'll at least partially achieve my goal of doing as much to discredit the you, WoS, Moc and BH. I don't trust any of you.

You bring up my game meta, yet still haven't answered how Mocsta's playing different from his meta. You're indifferent all over the place. You're more than happy to give out your town reads yet don't give a damn about anyone else's and attack Prome for being focused on town reads.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#2890
On March 03 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why does no one pay attention to my cases.

Because some people are more focused on jerking each other off and picking on newbies than anything else. I can't wait until I get to be a vig, I'm only going to shoot out of spite.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#2894
Nope, wrong. If you think I'm scum, I've already pointed out that you should kill me today then.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 19:15 GMT
#2899
Funny, no vet circle jerk? You seem quite fine dismissing any point made by a non-vet. Other than the "obvious" Prom case, you haven't even considered that other vets could be scum/3rd party. You're not concerned with that at all. You're total scum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 19:17 GMT
#2900
On March 03 2013 04:14 layabout wrote:
geript if dr.h is scum why did Vayesh(bc) who we know is town and Dr.h have nearly identical reads?

Why did he and VE, who we know is town, have some different reads? That's a retarded question.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 19:21 GMT
#2902
So if two people arrive at different reads does that make one of them not town?
No, scum can 'arrive' to the same reads as town. Crazy talk I know right...
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 19:30 GMT
#2904
Going by that argument, you're saying that everyone who called out prome at any point is more likely to be town? Nope, this is complete and utter bullshit logic. This is the logic behind the reason for busses anyways.
"Oh we were totally on the same page about Prome/Geript/whoever else. That must mean that we're all on the same side." I'm going to go ahead and say that this is the absolute dumbest logic I've seen employed ever in a game.
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