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On February 27 2013 09:21 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote:
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective. geript I want you to think about the logic of a disinterested self-lynching martyr as being someone you wouldn't lynch and think about where following this policy will lead you
The difference I'm seeing between RO and Prome is that Prome has an underlying agenda; I don't see Prome as being disinterested.
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On February 27 2013 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What if I just ran for mayor? I don't like blqzinghand and don't trust him to not change his mind. If you wanna vote me in go ahead, scum will kill me anyway
Can you really say that this is an actually attempt to try and move the mayor role from VE?
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I saw that and considered posting it, but then decided that it didn't really matter who was in the lead at the time as it doesn't make a real difference to me as I don't see it as an actual attempt to win mayor and more of an excuse to garner votes.
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On February 27 2013 11:04 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 10:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Are you seriously taking everything I said in the first few hours of the game as Gospel truth, guys? If you are, I'm sorry. I can't help you fix your read of me because I'm already dead if that's the case. My problem stems from Geript. I decided to read his filter from NMM37
So still have problems or do you have a point to bring up?
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Fine then Dr. You think I'm scum. Bring the case.
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
On February 27 2013 09:25 geript wrote:
Also, regarding the pardoner role and Dr. my concern stems from the fact that it feels as if he was feeling out whether or not the plan was to remove the pardoner as to see whether or not it's safe to 'run' for it. I just find that fact that it appears that he's more interested in pardoner than mayor concerning as that role is more powerful in scum hands.
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history.
I don't see how I haven't honestly represented your post history. You have shown little to no desire in being elected mayor. You have shown mild interest in garnering votes. That means you have vested interest in being pardoner. I stated that fact as being concerning to me. What's so hard to read about that?
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Then why not try and steer votes elsewhere?
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On February 27 2013 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nothing hard, its just illogical. I have zero interest in being pardoner.
Another question, what is your current interest level in being mayor?
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So Aqua, what do you think of Dr.H?
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No. Not yet, but raising suspicion. That doesn't mean that I don't intend to look at and analyze you at all. You say you have no interest in being mayor or pardoner, but that you aren't interested in moving votes elsewhere either. None of this makes any sense. You don't want to be mayor; cool. You don't want to be pardoner; cool. You don't want people to move their votes elsewhere; hunh? One of these is not like the other. This is just like Apollo's and Romo's search for a non-Roslin, non-Zarek president option in BSG; it's a rigged search. You want people to come to the natural conclusion of you at least being on the list. Not buying it.
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Because you were apparently on.
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Because I'm becoming suspicious of him and I would like to see other viewpoints to verify if it is just confirmation bias. Would you prefer I asked a broad question to all 24 other people?
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On February 27 2013 14:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Experiment time. I'm not quoting people anymore. Call it an exercise in reading the thread. If you want to know who I'm talking to, read the thread. ^^
Why obfuscate?
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By that you mean do I care to indulge you further? How so? I'm not seeing a real point from you.
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I'm arguing what his motivation is from what his actions are; call that what you will. No my stance has since his previous posts has become more firm in that I trust him even less. His stance in actuality is that he is fine with becoming either wanting to allow people to slide him in.
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VE is actively running for mayor. WF I think is more comfortable letting other people take either title. I don't think he's seriously trying for either title overtly or covertly. His actions don't add up to that to me.
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Seeing as how WF hasn't made real splashes to be mayor since the initial campaign, I think he's resigned himself to not being able to grab it and quit trying.
I have considered town actions for DrH, but a soft campaign makes far more sense as scum than as town. I see little other intent that makes any sense.
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@Mocsta&Dr.H I need to get sleep before class in the am. I'll be back to answer these around noonish hopefully.
@WF I'll answer you then too when I'm a bit more clear headed.
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On February 27 2013 15:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript. The only thing I have left to ask you is this. Your suspicion of me is based on the fact that all of my actions, according to you, are made with the intention of becoming pardoner - a role which I have myself said is inherently anti-town and you would seem to agree. This being said, what reason would you possibly have to believe that I am town? You seem completely convinced that I am basing my play right now around an admitted and extremely anti-town intention yet are unwilling to push me or actually call me scum. I can't wrap my head around that. What is the point of your pressure then?
Because there are conflicting reads imo; I actually like many of your posts as I can follow them and see where your head is at an a general direction. I'm just not sold that I'm not being played. In the case of conflicting reads I want more information so I can make a better informed decision and I want to try and remove any confirmation bias.
On February 27 2013 15:05 MilkSuckler wrote:
So what is the difference with VE or Wade Fell; or any of the other mayor candidates - 2nd place is pardoner regardless.
This is why I'd strongly prefer to soft force the Mayor to lynch the pardoner. They want Prom out, fine; force them to follow up on that. Having him sit around to be town-lynched makes little sense unless they actually think he's town. If people want to pull "shennannies" then I have no interest in them being mayor as they are more likely lying to us.
Since most everyone seems at least ok with Prome being lynched, I suggest moving secondary votes on him to force them to lynch him or risk giving him pardoner long-term.
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