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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 01:21 GMT
#489
When did I play the newbie card? New here is not equivalent to newbie. Also, I like to keep my filter clean.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 01:28 GMT
#507
On February 26 2013 10:25 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Here you now say "newbie"

I did not take anything out of context.
Try harder next time Dear

Sorry but that is a direct question regarding Vivax stance on me. Perhaps you should be reading more than just my filter.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 01:57 GMT
#580
Wave lurked most of day 1 and was semi-active in the last 8 or so, maybe more. Right now my top scum read is on WoS. His emotion core is drastically different from that in nmm36. In 36 his emotions were consistent and now theyre mostly crashing between joking and angry. All of it feels forced and unnatural. His post style is far different as well. Lots of little nothing posts
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 02:02 GMT
#590
@MS yes at points.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 03:14 GMT
#662
On February 26 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

Moc that whole post looks fishy to me, this line seems especially out of place from Wave. Do you really like it that much?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 03:21 GMT
#680
Was referring to the "that post is likely generated by town" comment. My point is that I still don't like how his core fluctuates and it seems more like he's rewriting scripted posts and trying to blend under the newbie umbrella.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#699
I'll hit that up Moc when I'm not on my phone.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 10:43 GMT
#837
Sorry I got caught up at work; major AC leak and a busted urinal within 30 minutes of each other and when I don't usually clean. Had to call people in, explain why I was there, what was going on and why I wasn't responsible for it.

First off, there are three distinct tones in WoS key post and I'm going to separate them out.
A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

All this says is that whatever you are about to propose is absolutely retarded. All it says is, "ignore this post." This tone is returned to at the end.
Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.

The second tone is the analysis tone:
Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway?
Case and point: a newbie.

Basically this says, "trust a newbie to be pardoner." The problem is that his argument falls apart when you really analyze it. You don't want pardoner in the hands of a newbie because it's a free pass for when they get caught for them unless they're lynched D1. I agree with previous analysis, best to put pardoner on the mayor's lynch target.

Next the general plea:
I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.

This section is especially out of tone for him. I feel like I'm watching C3PO talk to Jabba here. This paragraph especially feels forced; the diction is all wrong for him. His posts are little more than mimicry than anything else in general but this paragraph is nothing of the sort.

Next, I actually have to agree with what Prome said. The difference between Vivax response and WoS response is that Vivax actually attacks the argument (If you do A+B then no way you get to C). WoS response was essentially, "You got NK last game."
WoS is playing excited this game. Even when he's grabbed a touch of heat, he's not been the slightest concerned about it and continues to "counterpressure" with bleh.

I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 10:53 GMT
#842
Also is wade Marv?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 10:56 GMT
#847
On February 26 2013 19:51 Aquanim wrote:
You claim that WoS is speaking in "different tones". What is your actual point?
And do you claim that being excited makes WoS scum?
In fact what are you saying here at all besides spraying inconclusive, uncommittal suspicion at WoS?

My point is that I think his posts are a combination of scripting and mimicry.
No. Being excited makes him excited, but emotional state gives a read on the reasons behind the actions and thus the goal of the actions.
I'm saying I think WoS is scum and I want everyone else to keep an eye on him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 11:09 GMT
#849
I think he was fed a general script to follow. By mimicry I mean finding things that other people in the thread are saying and trying to copy and apply it.

Ok, so in poker how I made my money was reading emotional states. You find out how a person is feeling and that gives you their state of mind. Once you get their state of mind you can see the choices their making and learn why they're making the choices they're making. My point with being excited is that it also is uncharacteristic; he doesn't run on adrenaline, that's not his shtick. He's a fly by the seat of his pants guy. Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 11:31 GMT
#851
On February 26 2013 20:13 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role.

Why not?

Because town doesn't naturally evoke a stressor response.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 22:10 GMT
#1099
On February 27 2013 07:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and as for Soniv, he's super busy all the time, so lack of contribution on his part is probably expected except for specific times during the day.
That said if he doesn't post during those specific times I will be on his ass....still waiting on a reply from him.
AND FUCKING GERIPT.

Just woke up and reading. You should read my filter for your answers as I've already said.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 22:14 GMT
#1101
Mocsta makes bad cases when he's scum. I don't see him and Prome on the same team unless they're both town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 22:25 GMT
#1113
On February 27 2013 07:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript, I don't know what horseshit you're spouting but nowhere in your filter do you address my buddying concerns.

One of the quotes you quote I even stated I was on my phone. The next one, I commented on how I got caught up at work. 1+1=2. Posting from work = less time. Posting from work = posting on phone = autocorrect. You're reading into things too much. Quite frankly the fact that you try and bring up the buddying aspect is ridiculous. You don't even make a solid case for why I would want to try and buddy up him instead of say, anyone else. You're grabbing straws at best.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 22:38 GMT
#1120
Toad likely
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 22:59 GMT
#1132
I think if I get a scum flip on WoS I can make a strong association case on Vivax.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2013 00:00 GMT
#1155
On February 27 2013 08:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Geript
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 12:25 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 12:21 geript wrote:
Was referring to the "that post is likely generated by town" comment. My point is that I still don't like how his core fluctuates and it seems more like he's rewriting scripted posts and trying to blend under the newbie umbrella.

hhhmmm, I must say the "read" - if you can call it that - on Wade Fell was weak at best and scummily deprived of stance at worst.

And serves as stark contrast to the pardoner request post.

I noticed in NMM37 some players were writing posts for the lurkers to contribute with; so could be a valid tactic going forward here.

@Geript
Can you please identify which components of his post read forced and scripted to you.

Do you still feel that way now WoS has increased his post count? + the question in the quotes pls

I still feel the post was artificial. But otherwise I'm less strong on him after reviewing the rest of his filter, more null minus instead of scum.

That said, I think that WF's post here is very interesting.
On February 27 2013 06:02 Wade Fell wrote:
If that's still your opinion at the deadline, you can count on my vote. Given that we're both going to lynch the same guy and one of us wants to be mayor and the other doesn't, I'm going to see if I can't win this election in your stead, though.

It does in many regards feel like Dr. is soft running in the possible attempt to backdoor the pardoner role instead.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2013 00:21 GMT
#1160
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2013 00:25 GMT
#1167
Also, regarding the pardoner role and Dr. my concern stems from the fact that it feels as if he was feeling out whether or not the plan was to remove the pardoner as to see whether or not it's safe to 'run' for it. I just find that fact that it appears that he's more interested in pardoner than mayor concerning as that role is more powerful in scum hands.
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