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TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 01:46 GMT
#1235
On February 27 2013 10:41 layabout wrote:
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On February 27 2013 10:30 TestSubject893 wrote:
@layabout: If you don't want me to respond to something, why even post it? On top of that, if you think my response is invalid, why don't you want more explanation? Your last few posts directed at me have really rubbed me the wrong way. I'd like some explanation. Did you misread what I wrote or what? The way I see those posts you're picking a fight with someone just for the sake of it. And the most obvious explanation for that would be that you want to look like you're contributing to town, without doing much.

It's quite simple, you said you thought he was town. at the same time you tried to cast suspicion on him. if you are town then doing this is counter productive. it's also not very relevant since ve is the one who is going to win. So i wanted to know why you posted that since it tells me about your mindset.

I didn't want you to respond because i have nothing more to say on the issue and dragging it out serves no purpose.I posted because you didn't answer my question i did the same when others didn't answer my questions. Your response was also gave me information about you but i didn't feel like i needed any more with regards to that post.


You're still not interpreting what I said correctly, but that could be my fault for not communicating clearly enough.

Either way, you're right when you say continuing this conversation is not going to be helpful, so let's drop it here.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 02:24 GMT
#1254
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


Is this directed at only me or multiple people? The fact that you don't mention me other than in a list confuses me.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 02:50 GMT
#1262
Well since you aren't answering my question, I'll do my best to address this without knowing your full intent.

On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip.


Yes, this was exactly my point. I saw some people were forgetting this and I thought it was in everyone's best interest to remind them of this fact.

If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


I believe that at the time of my post people were not really analyzing you enough and/or giving you too much benefit of the doubt. I feared that you being elected would make this worse. I wanted to point this out before we got too far into the process of electing you. I'm not sure why these motives were unclear to you. Implying I was trying to discredit you or distract people from discussion seems like a stretch.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 02:54 GMT
#1264
EBWOP: And as for "being absent from all productive town discussion": I have to work and sleep sometimes. I'm sorry I can't be on 24/7. I'm keeping up with the thread when I am available and giving my opinion when I think its relevant. We can't all post anytime anywhere.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 02:56 GMT
#1265
On February 27 2013 11:53 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 11:50 TestSubject893 wrote:
Well since you aren't answering my question, I'll do my best to address this without knowing your full intent.

On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip.


Yes, this was exactly my point. I saw some people were forgetting this and I thought it was in everyone's best interest to remind them of this fact.

If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


I believe that at the time of my post people were not really analyzing you enough and/or giving you too much benefit of the doubt. I feared that you being elected would make this worse. I wanted to point this out before we got too far into the process of electing you. I'm not sure why these motives were unclear to you. Implying I was trying to discredit you or distract people from discussion seems like a stretch.
I think it was just a point communicated poorly. Not necessary the message itself, but the whole message.

?Layabout? summed it up well, you call him most likely town, but then cast doubt whilst propping VE.

I think the issue was, you had two separate items to address (Support VE + Query Dr.H) but because you melded it together in one post; it read as a political move to cast doubt on one candidate whilst shining a torch on the other.

Personally I was on the same page with you, as I pointed out prior.


Oh, I see. That could be it. I've never been a great writer. :X
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 02:58 GMT
#1266
And the fact that I had just read like 12 pages and was consolidating all my thoughts into 1 post probably didn't help. :/
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 03:11 GMT
#1277
On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours


Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/


It does read like that.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 04:08 GMT
#1287
On February 27 2013 13:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've been at work on my phone so I apologize for not being clear but quoting is a bitch. Testsubject, that post was 80% aimed at geript. My point really is someone getting trust is only a problem of you hate their ideas or think they are likely scum. Hopefully we are all aware that noone is confirmed at this point so its a nonissue. The only outcome of a post like that is either seeding distrust on town or making me defend against nothing. May be an honest townie mistake though, its important to look at your posts as a means to the end of killing scum.


Yeah, that's fair. I may be guilty of trying to get too fancy in my reasoning and strategy. Now that we're spending so much time analyzing it, I'm not really in love with the way that post of mine turned out. It did however seem to succeed in making sure that no one is going to overlook you, if there ever was a threat of that, so its not a total loss.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 04:44 GMT
#1297
On February 27 2013 13:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 13:31 Aquanim wrote:
On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
...

I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.

...


On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


@DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go?

I don't think he meant that we're scum with that comment.

So are we dead-set on having VE and Dr.H as Mayor/pardoner at this point? Do we know 100% what their motives are for D1 (Prom lynch) and will they stick to them? Does it matter which one gets which role?


Trying to answer this question made me realize how much having to decide Mayor and Pardoner really sucks for town. Why can't we just vote on who we kill like every other game I've played.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 04:46 GMT
#1298
Anyway, I'm heading to bed then working in the morning, so expect me to be out of touch until a few hours before the deadline. I'll do my best to be caught up with time to spare, but I can't make any promises.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 05:08 GMT
#1308
Ok, real quick before I go to sleep. It seems like no one has a problem with DrH or VE as mayor and there aren't many other choices. Do we think we can get organized enough to make one of them mayor and make Prom the Pardoner? Something to consider since we seem to have a consensus.

Good night, guys. For real this time~
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 20:10 GMT
#1532
Skimming through the thread at work. I think we can definitely make Prome as the pardoner happen if we coordinate, and at this point VE, WF, and DrH all are similar as mayor to me. For this reason I'm changing my vote in a hope to eliminate the Pardoner role.

##Vote: Promethelax
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:10 GMT
#1535
So the way I see this with VE in the lead for mayor, our game plan should be to get VE most of the votes and Prome just enough to get 2nd, but nowhere near the number VE has. To do this we need the people with votes on WF and DrH to move their votes.

Does anyone have a problem with this?
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#1537
Can you elaborate?
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:17 GMT
#1539
Well, if people aren't on board with it its not gonna happen. The Pardoner role just freaks me out so much that I'd feel better knowing the pardoner is dead than having to take it into consideration when doing the math later in the game.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:21 GMT
#1543
I think you're town now, but I also think that if there are any players who could be fooling me and the town at large, you two are among them. That's why its so scary to me; the cost of being wrong is quite large.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:41 GMT
#1557
Move it to Prom or VE, we can balance the last few to make sure nothing crazy happens as the deadline approaches.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:43 GMT
#1559
On February 28 2013 06:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: DocHelvetica


Can you explain this to me? I can't wrap my head around it without wild speculation.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:46 GMT
#1560
Toad, your vote count is wrong. glurio is on DrH right now.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 27 2013 21:47 GMT
#1562
Oh, you just have him twice. From my count, Both WF and Chaos Bear haven't voted yet, so there should be only 23 votes, not 24.
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