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On February 26 2013 18:33 Wade Fell wrote:
nope

On February 26 2013 18:52 Wade Fell wrote:
Nope JJ's post is absolutely terrible. "Oh hey guys i have this thing that will convince you but I'm not gonna say it cause I'm too busy eating babies, having risky sexual encounters, and perpetrating voter fraud in Eastern Europe" is not a legitimate thing you can say in Mafia.

On February 26 2013 19:15 Wade Fell wrote:
You don't see how it could be scum motivated? Look at how he scrambles for scumreads, look at his case on me, it's not the result of rereading, it's the result of reinterpreting.

On February 26 2013 19:19 Wade Fell wrote:
If Prom was really trying to raise discussion with his rng as he claims, he'd have actually gotten into discussions with people. Any townie would naturally get arguing and get involved as people disagreed with him, especially one who was taking a position specifically for the purpose of starting discussions. A town Prom, if he did this, would have a bunch of posts, quote chains of him discussing RNG with haters, drumming up support, etc, and forcing scum to take stances. That's what a town player bringing up discussion looks like. Prom does NOT do this. Prom is scum.

On February 26 2013 19:43 geript wrote:
First off, there are three distinct tones in WoS key post and I'm going to separate them out.

All this says is that whatever you are about to propose is absolutely retarded. All it says is, "ignore this post." This tone is returned to at the end.

The second tone is the analysis tone:

Basically this says, "trust a newbie to be pardoner." The problem is that his argument falls apart when you really analyze it. You don't want pardoner in the hands of a newbie because it's a free pass for when they get caught for them unless they're lynched D1. I agree with previous analysis, best to put pardoner on the mayor's lynch target.

Next the general plea:

This section is especially out of tone for him. I feel like I'm watching C3PO talk to Jabba here. This paragraph especially feels forced; the diction is all wrong for him. His posts are little more than mimicry than anything else in general but this paragraph is nothing of the sort.

Next, I actually have to agree with what Prome said. The difference between Vivax response and WoS response is that Vivax actually attacks the argument (If you do A+B then no way you get to C). WoS response was essentially, "You got NK last game."
WoS is playing excited this game. Even when he's grabbed a touch of heat, he's not been the slightest concerned about it and continues to "counterpressure" with bleh.

I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case.

On February 26 2013 19:56 geript wrote:
My point is that I think his posts are a combination of scripting and mimicry.

...but emotional state gives a read on the reasons behind the actions and thus the goal of the actions.

On February 26 2013 20:09 geript wrote:
By mimicry I mean finding things that other people in the thread are saying and trying to copy and apply it.

Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role.

On February 27 2013 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
What happened to Aquanim?

On February 27 2013 12:51 geript wrote:
So Aqua, what do you think of Dr.H?

On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.

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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.

On February 27 2013 13:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Now as for scumhunting, we've gotten nowhere in a very long time as with Prom on the chopping block no one else appears to feel even remotely threatened....

On February 27 2013 13:31 Aquanim wrote:




@DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go?

On February 27 2013 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Toad

I still don't like how he's all "WTF this Prom lynch is MINE everyone is sheeping ME". If Prom flips scum I'm going to be instantly more suspicious of Toad, not less, considering the fact that A) he's been actively trying to take credit for the Prom lynch and B) Prom clearly had something planned for this phase where he'd be AFK for a long period. "Yeah guys just bus me" is exactly the kind of thing that gets typed in QT's when that's the case.

He's done no scumhunting BESIDES his pressure of Prom at the beginning of the game - if he's so certain of Prom, why is he not in here actively trying to find Prom's team? Why is he doing nothing but ride this Prom lynch to its conclusion?

Ultimately I'm still leaning scum, but his suggestion at the beginning of the game wasn't a bad one if we can pull it off. I want to see more from him.

On February 27 2013 16:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm really growing more and more impatient with Obvious. It feels like he doesn't care about this game at all.