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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 02:56 GMT
#1862
About an hour
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 03:31 GMT
#1867
We ask him who is mafia and he says HAPA, then delivers a case on why Snarfs is town.


That doesn't strike you as slightly odd?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 03:42 GMT
#1870
I just cant reconcile that Dieno town read with those two players. Two players that I respect and have seen destroy entire games off their own backs with their reading abilities.

This would be a totally different situation if they'd gone 'null' or 'yeah scummy whatever' on him, but town? I just don't see their radar's being that off the mark.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 04:19 GMT
#1876
Interesting.

Balls in your court Yamato. Still waiting on that case on Hapa, by the way.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 04:44 GMT
#1880
Yeah fuck if I know why i'm alive.

You either orchestrated this night-kill to bring up this exact argument.

Or my read on you is wrong.


Something I'll have to ponder while we exterminate Yamato.


Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 18:29 GMT
#1913
##Vote: Yamato

Yamato is scum for reasons previously discussed.

Hapa is town for reasons previously discussed.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#1918
On March 04 2013 04:21 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 03:29 Adam4167 wrote:
##Vote: Yamato

Yamato is scum for reasons previously discussed.

Hapa is town for reasons previously discussed.

And the Hapa = Town reasoning is...?

No comment on the case you said I wasn't going to build?

This is just lazy.


As you wish.

I'm at work for another 4 hours and then I will go over all of these things.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 01:57 GMT
#1955
Apparently I need to post this again since people fail at reading and absorbing.

On March 02 2013 16:23 Adam4167 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17886669

More than half the thread wanted me dead right here. I cannot reconcile this post with the scum teams desires. No way in hell this is a bus.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17895645

Stands firmly against the double lynch. Why not kill me and Keirathi both if hes scum and bussing? at least grab an erratic townie for your efforts.


Point 1 may be debatable, but point 2 is undeniable. Any scum that was going through with bussing Keirathi would have been pushing for a double-lynch on day 1. Think about it from a scum perspective: Why would you give up your teammate for nothing when you could just as easily bus him and also take a townie out. THINK.

Hapa is not mafia.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 02:16 GMT
#1959
He doesn't start attacking Keirathi until AFTER I already call the duel. Nor does he mention me. He could have easily just dumped a town/null read on Keirathi and a SCUM read on me.

He was not pigeonholed into any reads, yet he chose the least beneficial options for a scum player. That is either the worlds most super bus or.... hes not mafia!
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 02:26 GMT
#1963
Yeah. You're right. Me and Hapa are mafia. So on day 2, when my mafia friend Dieno was trying to take Sylencia out with him, I steered the town away from killing the townie, to solely kill my scum buddy.

No. Worries.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 02:34 GMT
#1968
This bus would blow Hero mafia's bus out of the fucking water it would be so epic.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see that coming from the guy that claimed godfather in nested spoilers..... (no offense Hapa)
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 02:40 GMT
#1972
Right, no, i'm getting exceptionally cranky. I've been awake for 18 hours, been at work for 14 straight. I'm going to bed for a few hours.

I want every single one of you that has town in your role PM to go back and read exactly what thrawn had to say before he died last night.

Go back and read Yamato's backflip after I call for the duel on Keirathi.

If you genuinely believe that keeping Yamato alive is the better option after that, then I honestly don't know what more I can say to you.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 06:03 GMT
#1995
On March 04 2013 12:33 yamato77 wrote:
I really don't care what people think about my alignment anymore

Think about why Hapa has a scum read on me. Very conveniently timed. Of course he's not going to stop arguing about it, because to admit defeat here is to die for certain.

I'm all for town lynching me so long as one of you has the sack to lynch Hapa tomorrow.


Give the man what he wants.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 06:36 GMT
#1997
Entirely sure, yes.

While you're here, you can explain to me where your scum read on Acro went N0, outlined in this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17919426
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 06:52 GMT
#2000
You just thought you'd casually throw some suspicion on him and never follow it up?

I really cant see a townie mindset for doing that.


I have a half-dozen reasons to think you're scum, I've covered them extensively in my filter.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 07:23 GMT
#2002
If you seriously cant follow why I think you're mafia, you're being intentionally thick.

The fact that you think you've played a townier game than Hapa just highlights how out of perspective your view on this game is.

Do I really think Hapa would play this passive? Yes, I've seen it first hand in Hero mafia, this is well within his wheelhouse as town. Be it from time-constraints or just a general feeling of being lost, he hasn't taken the lead, but so what, he hasn't needed to.

You have done close to nothing since I called that duel on Keirathi, so calling yourself not passive is again showing your lack of perspective. The most noteworthy thing is a case on Acro that you 'proved' he was mafia:

On March 01 2013 01:56 yamato77 wrote:

You're good at arguing

Too bad I have already proven you're mafia, and you can't refute it, because it's with words you typed!

You make it too easy.


Then you think hapa is mafia, and all of a sudden acro is town:

On March 03 2013 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
Lol, have two townies duel and double lynch them

This is hilarious.

You guys kill my motivation to play.


Your whole interaction with him this game just stinks of a poorly executed bus.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 07:47 GMT
#2005
This is tedious. I outlined why you were mafia long before I voiced my suspicions of acro.

I have considered the possibility I am wrong - and then discounted it once I looked at everything again. Your actions make far more sense from a mafia perspective.

You do not look townier than him. Your case against him is filled with taking his words out of context and 'what ifs' and 'coincidences'. If this were bang-bang, id have shot you on the spot for posting it.


I grow tired of this. I'm not trying to convince you that you are mafia, as that would be pointless. Its my goal to get everyone else to see what I already do.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 10:37 GMT
#2008
Fine. I'll do a full reread of the game in the morning.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 21:56 GMT
#2087
Can one of you Hapa voters unvote and give me some time to reread.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 04 2013 22:38 GMT
#2090
On March 05 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 06:16 zarepath wrote:
Please explain to me which actions of Hapa are scummy enough to outweigh the fact that he was the first person to defend Adam and one of the first to vote for Keirathi, and then one of the first to push for a Dieno/Syl duel.


A scum realizing that he needed to bus his teammates a ridiculous amount in order to distance himself from their flips would do the same exact thing Hapa did.


If you were going to bus your teammates 'a ridiculous amount', why would you post this?

On February 27 2013 04:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 04:10 Acrofales wrote:
Let me get this straight, Hapa: you think it's entirely possible Keir is town, but think killing him is the lesser of two evils? If you were a pardoner, would you consider stopping this lynch?


Yes and yes. None of my top scumreads are on the block right now.


Hes already voting Keirathi at this point. If you were going to bus here, wouldn't you be 100% adamant that Keirathi was scum because 'insert shitty reasons dragged out of his filter'. For me to agree to that Cora, you're telling me that he decided to bus his team mate for town credit, then declined it when it was up for the taking.
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