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Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 15:48 GMT
#1297

@Syl, so under no circumstance would you initiate a duel with Dieno?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 15:50 GMT
#1298
On March 01 2013 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
And you also seem to be butthurt. Why may I ask?

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 00:45 Alderan wrote:
Acrofails then urges everyone to kill them both, when all he would have to do to see if his 3p theory is right is wait until the selection period.

TLDR: Acrofails tried to kill someone he knew was not scum, someone who had initiated a duel with Kier who he believed to be scum.


Also the only way to see the alignment and role of someone is for them to FLIP. And for them to flip, they have to DIE.

Also what is wrong with the final statement?


I fail to see why he would kill someone who he knew was not scum when the other option was someone he, and the rest of town was very suspicious of.

Let's not lynch someone who is "not scum" based purely on asinine conjecture.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 15:56 GMT
#1299
As for the duel today, I'll extrapolate a bit on my reasoning behind a Syl and Dieno.

First, and I'm making no bones about it, I think Dieno is scum, and unless he starts providing some worthwhile analysis my mind won't be changed. Second, and this is pretty WIFOMy but it would make sense for scum to spread out all their votes. I expect one of the two left on Adam to be scum.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:02 GMT
#1302
"This Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia"- Where you can double lynch someone you think is not town day 1 and not be scummy....
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:06 GMT
#1303
On March 01 2013 01:02 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 00:45 Alderan wrote:
On March 01 2013 00:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 01 2013 00:38 Alderan wrote:
On March 01 2013 00:19 Acrofales wrote:
I remember reading the list in the morning, and it immediately made me realize Adam was not scum.


So you did what any self respecting townie would do and try to get him lynched too....

You're making yourself look worse and worse bro.





Do you understand the difference between not scum and town? Apparently not.
Not scum = not scum.
Could be 3P or town.


So this is what happened.

Acrofails first thinks both have a good chance of being scum.
Acrofails then thinks that one is "not scum"
Acrofails then assumes that the person that dueled someone he believed was scum must be a 3rd party, with no evidence.
Acrofails then urges everyone to kill them both, when all he would have to do to see if his 3p theory is right is wait until the selection period.

TLDR: Acrofails tried to kill someone he knew was not scum, someone who had initiated a duel with Kier who he believed to be scum.


I will say it again: Adam is not town. Now you can disagree with me all you like, but as long as I believe that I want him dead.

At first, I believed there was a good chance he was scum, the list post changed that. However, it didn't make him town, just not-scum. I can think of no reason why Adam, who I have played quite a bit with before, would do that. Adam is a collected and deliberative player, not an impulsive egotistical crazy guy.

Therefore, Adam is not town, and if I were given the opportunity to kill him, I would. I don't trust 3P, because their wincon is not to win with town, but to do something else entirely. Sure, for now Adam allied himself with town, and that's great. But there's no reason to think that will stay that way.

Now tell me, how does me wanting to kill someone I suspect of being 3P make me scum.

Also, AlDERPan, stop calling me Acrofails, it's not funny or productive.


I just don't understand taking the meta approach when the far more likely scenario is that he's generic town, not worried about dying and knew he was a good enough player to win against a lurky scum. I don't know in these cases I tend to go with the most obvious choice, I've gotten burned too many times trying to over think it.

And Oats you were very vocal about Sylencia discussing 3p and how scummy that was. Where's that train of thought now?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:17 GMT
#1310
On March 01 2013 01:13 Acrofales wrote:
**** NEWSFLASH ****

Today in Liquid, a stunning revelation was made. Different people have different approaches to the game. I know, this amazing story shocks us all, but we will just have to live with it.
.


I agree, it's called the scum and the town.

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Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#1319
On March 01 2013 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, why do you want to kill the most active person day 2?
Like that doesnt really seem to be that weird of a play to me. Otherwise, there is nothing else that makes him scum

Alderan, Syl was talking about 3p WAY at the start of the game, after that adam has shown that he hasnt played to either of his previous metas. 3P is a logical explanation and YOU CAN CATCH 3P due to their play. Read dessert mafia where wbg catches sloosh day 1 as sk.

You are so out of the game right now, I think you are scum.



But why jump the gun? If he's 3p then he's likely going to have to do something like that again, and when he does we can kill him.

Right now all I see is someone who's protown who made a really really dumb move. If he makes it again then I will concede the 3P role, if not and as long as he's acting pro town, there's no reason not to keep him around.

Right?

Right.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1331
On March 01 2013 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
Tomorrow, at the crack of day, I am dueling Acro.

It's him or me.

Pick me first, I don't care, but if I die you lynch him after.


No.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1332
On March 01 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THAT AFTER YOU CRITICIZED ADAM FOR DOING WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE ABOUT TO DO?
THIS IS SO CONTRADICTORY. DONT BE A FUCKING DICK AND AT LEAST THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SAYING.

Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:38 GMT
#1340
On March 01 2013 01:36 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 01:34 zarepath wrote:
Who are the unreadable newbies you're discussing -- Syl and Dieno? Or are you saying that this whole game is full of unreadable newbies and therefore a waste of time or something? There's some context I'm missing.

@yamato

Both of them have meta of looking scummy as town. It's not a good defense, but I am less convinced of either of them than I am of my own fucking scum read that is fucking obvious.


It seems too obvious. Me and Acro fought about the double lynch for fucking 60 hours. Would he push that hard if he was scum?

And for clarification, my read Acro is leaning mafia, but I think Dieno is more clearly scum.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 16:47 GMT
#1353
Yeah I mean its obvious that scum were pissed about having an inactive scummy looking member, decided to throw him under the bus, but to mitigate the damage attempted to push the double lynch.

Then they realized how bad that was going to look because the majority of us didn't want to do something so stupid so they bailed on the idea and bussed Keir.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 17:54 GMT
#1378
On March 01 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
The crack of dawn.

Adam did it out of nowhere. You cannot deny you felt a rush of like HERE IT GOES?
Well I did.


Whaa.... I don't....

What?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 18:05 GMT
#1380
Dieno I want you dead. I think you're the scummiest person in the thread by far.

Convince me otherwise.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:04 GMT
#1383
On March 01 2013 03:56 yamato77 wrote:
If people don't want me to duel Acro, they need to respond to my case in full.


You just don't need to instant duel him. Let's not jump the gun here.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:23 GMT
#1387
On March 01 2013 04:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:56 yamato77 wrote:
If people don't want me to duel Acro, they need to respond to my case in full.

Mind stopping the tunnel for a second and looking at other people? You had a scumread on Hapa, what happened to it?

What do you think of the lurkers and Cora?


Just using basic logic here, if he is adamant in his belief that you're scum, you telling him to talk about someone else probably isn't going to be terribly effective.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:27 GMT
#1389
On March 01 2013 04:26 zarepath wrote:
Maybe we should slow down on the night town reads

Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#1394
If Acro rush duels Dieno we kill him. Agreed?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:46 GMT
#1395
That might also fly with Yamato, I'm not sure I buy the guaranteed town thing... at least not 100% yet.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:53 GMT
#1402
On March 01 2013 04:50 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 04:49 zarepath wrote:
In this game, I consider being the fastest gun in the west to also be the stupidest gun in the west.

Consider: YOU are sure about Dieno, but others aren't as sure. I feel more sure about there being at least 1 scum among Syl/Dieno than I do about either of them being scum, and everyone forcing them to argue against each other provides FAR more information than YOU going against Dieno.

If you quick-draw on Dieno, we lynch him and he flips bad townie, mafia gets another kill off and we're left wondering if Syl was scum or not and whether we should look into the double-lynchers or the Keir voters for the bus.

If we pit Dieno and Syl, we likely get all day to wait before one of them finally duels each other (giving us plenty of time to react to the night kill and speculate and build cases, etc.), and then we get a pretty good idea about BOTH of their alignments in the duel.

No offense, but you and Yamato are not very high on my priority list for who we need more information on.

Tell that to YAMATO, not to me. I AM NOT THE ONE YELLING ABOUT DUELING AT DAWN

I am trying to come up with a less retarded solution for that scenario.


All I'm saying is do not be the one to duel at dawn.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2013 19:54 GMT
#1403
On March 01 2013 04:51 yamato77 wrote:
Fine, duel someone Acro.

I want to see it. You scumhunt on them, and while you're doing that, I'll make my case for you being mafia.

Town can decide between you and another scummy looking person instead of just killing you.


Who you think Dieno? Hapa? iamp?
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