This Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia - Page 4

On February 27 2013 00:59 Alderan wrote:


Taking a stance?...

wat....

Hey town, how about we not take a stance on things like double lynching townies.



Neither of those are good enough reasons to lynch. So again, let's NOT "take a stand".

On February 27 2013 01:09 Alderan wrote:


I know that one being stupid and one being useless is not reason enough to lynch both. If I see some significant scum evidence on BOTH then I would advocate a double lynch, but because it's fairly certain they are not both scum then what you are proposing is essentially a random lynch.

On February 27 2013 04:05 Alderan wrote:


Got off on a rant the first time I answered this question and accidentally closed the tab. Do you really need to explain to you why lynching twice on the first day is less effective than lynching once?

On February 27 2013 07:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
so we have two people up for lynch. we have to lynch at least one of them.

1) both scum. this is dumb but if it's true then it's not a possibility worth worrying about. win-win
2) both town. if this is the case then we are fucked either way. lose-lose
3) one town, the other scum. win-lose

Option 3 is the only option worth worrying about. If 1 is true, it's a win-win and if 2 is true we're in a lose-lose. So there's not much use in considering either option as a real possibility. 1/2 might be true but in either case there's nothing we can do about it.

So now we are in a position where it makes sense that for the rest of the cycle, we might as well at least assume that only one of them is likely to be scum. Don't place your votes based on which option you think is the lesser of two evil, I want reasons for why the person you're voting for has a higher chance to flip scum than the other.

Which explanation makes more sense:

A townie haves an emotional omgus reaction and duels his accuser or a mafia player making a similar omgus styled play?

Then you have to look at each of their filters.

Even if you like keir's point about adam's possible self-promotion, you cannot ignore that it's all keir has talked about. He's said a few things about how I wasn't playing up to my town meta, and lately he's said that I've been hopping around on thread sentiment. These points are lazy and anyone could make them. And those 2 'reads' are keir's entire contribution to the game thus far. I am having a hard time believing that out of all the things that have happened in the thread, an early meta read on me and the tunneling of a single point about adam is all he would be able to come up and be suspicious of if he were town.

On February 27 2013 11:57 thrawn2112 wrote:


that dienosore is hella scummy for not being suspicious of obviously scummy keir. keir's actual alignment probably doesn't even factor into it. town dienosore should not be looking at someone who hardcore lurked and only introduced 1 unique point to the thread and seeing them as not scummy.

On February 27 2013 12:02 The Macho Man wrote:

because he isn't doing anything and it doesn't look like he cares about the game.....

On February 27 2013 13:01 Adam4167 wrote:
By that logic iam, you should want to kill everyone, to generate the most 'information'.

On February 27 2013 13:05 Adam4167 wrote:
Survival is important to every alignment, so that's irrelevant.

On February 27 2013 16:44 yamato77 wrote:
So let me break the game down here, because I have a decent idea of what's going on.

Based on the complete uselessness of both parties involved in this lynch, Adam and Keirathi, I think the likelihood of them both being town is high. Mafia in this position would be more concerned with the possibility of being lynched here, and do something about it. Neither of these players seems to be trying particularly hard to live, so by default they're probably just town. It's unfortunate that one, or perhaps both, might die in this situation, but if I had to pick one, I would pick Adam. Keirathi, I think, is the better town among the two, and could potentially be valuable to us later on if left alive. That said, at this point, it doesn't matter too much to me which one lives, because I don't think either of them is particularly useful this game.

THAT said, I don't want both to die. The mere thought of a double lynch is hilariously stupid in this situation, and I don't like the idea of not choosing either of them at all. Mafia have an unprecedented ability to hide in this situation, because they don't even have to FAKE a read on a player and justify it, they can just say they think they're both worth lynching and not vote, causing a double lynch.

So who is doing this? Iamperfection. I initially thought he was fairly townie, but his interest in this lynch is tremendously low. Like, I don't think he's given a read on either of these people that was longer than a sentence or deeper than "He's mafia because XX and I said so." In fact, that's basically how all of his reads have been so far, town or scum. But what is really damning, to me, is the fact that he's pushing this double lynch thing with no good logic to back it up. Acro, I can believe. Iamp is just kinda on that wagon and has pushed it without a clear motive like Acro's. If these two really are townies, like I think, then mafia is more likely to be disinterested in picking sides, and has clear motivation to want them both dead. It's the same heuristic I used to catch on to Snarfs in Nomination; mafia players don't care which townie dies, and won't spend much effort picking one. Only iamp isn't even picking one. Hilariously scummy.

On February 27 2013 23:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol Iamp when is the last time you got mislynched?

also double lynch? :D

On February 27 2013 16:05 Dienosore wrote:
Wait, hold on... Did I read this right?



Quoting this for preservation purposes.

On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote:


Oh, dafuq. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehension

Adam is an evil 3P who cares jack shit about the wellbeing of this town
Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die

Both must die. I will duel the next person who asks for my reads on adam and keir, because I hereby declare a policy lynch on people not reading the thread.