EPTOn February 25 2013 10:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
Did you read anything besides the first line of my answer?
Did you read anything besides the first line of my answer?
Did you ever explain how anything I've said makes me mafia?
Nope.
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yamato77
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Did you ever explain how anything I've said makes me mafia? Nope. | ||
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What are you trying to get at? | ||
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On February 25 2013 10:39 cDgCorazon wrote: That every post should not be saying "_____ is scum, here's why". That's not discussion, that's "Reign of Terror". Reads change during the game. You want me to come out and say that I think you are 100% scum confirmed without any possible changes of heart later on. That is ridiculous and you know it. No, I want you to take any stance at all about anyone's alignment And you aren't. | ||
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On February 25 2013 10:44 cDgCorazon wrote: I want you to not say everyone that disagrees with you is scum. And you aren't. Savvy? I never, ever said that. Ever. You are not doing well here, my friend. | ||
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On February 25 2013 10:50 cDgCorazon wrote: Then why, when I said that I disagreed with your desired way to play the game and that there were conflicts in your arguments, did you change the subject and put pressure on me? That's a scummy move. You tried to flip the tables and use Marv's momentum to attack me and making it look like you are scum hunting when in reality you are just pressuring me to be so good at Mafia that I have the scum team pegged down already. That is a scummy move. Do some real scumhunting. Threatening me is not going to help disprove the "Reign of Terror" atmosphere that you are putting out here. You picked an opportune moment to pile on the people questioning me, and all of what you had written was retreading stuff people had already put out there. I was tired of talking about setup, which is pointless and was getting irritatingly stupid, so I put out my scum read. Since then, you haven't managed to take any stances about anyone being mafia at all for anything that is actually alignment indicative. Now you're all-in because I'm your only read, so you call me scummy now when earlier you didn't. | ||
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Whatever, I've done enough. Other people can post. | ||
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You're probably not mafia anyway. | ||
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He's arguing his point with me, standing his ground. It's that I'm mafia, but it's reasonable for him to think I'm just jumping on with you and others who had expressed dislike with him. Arguing the point does nothing to get any better read on him. | ||
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On February 25 2013 11:15 cDgCorazon wrote: Yes I would love to know why you are "bored of me". Is it because you realize I'm right? Is this a continuation of a trend to change the subject when the pressure is on you? Don't get a hold on confirmation bias, here. I think you're probably not mafia, and that means it's really not useful to continue this line of attack anymore. | ||
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Any will do. | ||
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TOWN Town criteria vary from person to person, and a lot of quick town reads I get are based on meta or simple activity in conjunction with meta. For some players, these things don't apply so much, so I judge them based on reads. You guys can figure out which ones of these I get how, because I hate telling people why I have a town read on them, in general. Marv Corazon Adam Iamp Dienosore Oats NULL These players either haven't posted enough or are posting things that don't give me an alignment feel of them. Obviously. Snarfs Acrofales Keirathi Zarepath Alderan Sylencia Lots of lurky fuckers so far this game and one ambiguous dude. MAFIA HAPA On February 25 2013 07:15 Hapahauli wrote: Yamato, I know we're not agreeing over general policy and whatnot, but just promise me that you'll atleast seek the town's input before you go "IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!" Playing hero can end really really badly. A lot of his early posting was devoted to arguing with me about the setup, which many people did, but the way he did it bothered me, and it is exemplified in this post. He parroted Marvellosity a lot and generally tried to follow him. Example: On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote: Hence the policy I proposed earlier. @ Marv Can you expand on Cora? First he makes this post, asking Marv to expand on Cora, and Marv does. What is interesting here is Hapa's next move: On February 25 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote: Ok this is getting nowhere. @ Cora Let's not start with the "woe is me" attitude. Why did people not like you in your previous games, and what are you going to do about it this game? He begins a line of questioning with Cora, presumably with a negative attitude toward him. How does he follow up? On February 25 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote: Corazon, I get the impression that you're more concerned with calling Sylencia a dick rather than anything else. It's fine if you don't get along with him, but it does nothing for town objectives. Meekly. So far a lot of his posting is this kind of thing, where he mildly scolds a player (myself, Corazon, etc) for doing something vaguely anti-town. He doesn't seem particularly interested in finding mafia, just with appearing to do so with vague questions that he never really pushes, such as this: On February 25 2013 11:11 Hapahauli wrote: @ Oats Two things about this post: 1) It sounds a lot like you're jumping on Cora by taking his one statement about "rouge players" out of context. He's been pretty vocal about Yamato, and I think it's pretty clear that he links Yamato's behavior to scummy behavior. 2) That Marv read makes no sense. If you actually read his filter, I don't know how you could come to the conclusion that he's been over-polite. Example: He comments on things in people's play, but I haven't seen him make a real comment about alignment aside from iamperfection yet this game, and I'm not at all sold on that idea. I don't believe Hapahauli is concerned with finding mafia, but I do think he's doing a particularly good job blending in by asking a lot of questions and being mildly active. His mafia meta is somewhat close to this, if I remember Dessert correctly, so I'm interested to see how it develops. So far, he's been different from the town-leader Hapahauli that I am used to seeing. THRAWN Mostly a meta read, to be honest. In Normal Mini IV, iamperfection accurately categorized thrawn's mafia play as lurky, and successfully lynched him on that idea. So far he's been fairly lurky, and what he has posted doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me with the idea that he's town. His biggest interaction is with Oats, and I don't see where he reaches any sort of conclusion about Oats in it. Also of note is his "scum read" on iamp, which he has wholly failed to justify beyond: On February 25 2013 10:06 thrawn2112 wrote: I'm not willing to commit to a read on cora yet. Nothing he's posted so far is all that alignment indicative, coming from him. As for yamato... maybe slighty town? I disagree with the logic behind nearly all of what he's said so far but he's acting in a townish manner. Iamp could be scum. All he's done is drop off a town read and comment on how useless the thread is. and On February 25 2013 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote: Yeah I think iamp's scum. I can't feel the townie thought process behind his posts and his explanations are short and dismissive. To me, that's not exactly evidence of strong scumhunting. Perhaps time will flesh this out, but right now I'm not impressed. Anyway, it's early and a bunch of people have yet to post but that's where I sit right now. I'm going to bed. I'll be sporadically active the next couple of days, but I'll have enough time to catch some mafia for sure. | ||
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Let's make it happen, people. | ||
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What he is doing is also scummy, because it's not hunting scum. I don't even know what it is. I have no idea what his reads are at all. | ||
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I wouldn't say that his play this game is much of a jump from that. He want from not posting to posting nothing. | ||
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On February 26 2013 03:01 thrawn2112 wrote: lol so everyone is calling hapa scum but they don't want him as a potential lynch candidate? Are you reading? | ||
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