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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 08 2013 02:50 GMT
#10
/in
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 11 2013 23:24 GMT
#138
On February 12 2013 04:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sigh...

/in

No idea how pick your power shit works, but I guess I need to find out eventually


<3
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 00:05 GMT
#182
To make things perfectly clear...that is bluelightz flavor text -_-

Instant majority seems the easy way out. We just treat it like a normal lynch and enforce a policy that no one is allowed to hammer until we are ready.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 00:11 GMT
#193
On February 13 2013 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
I guess it depends of mayor is "decides the D2 lynch" or mayor is "decides the D2 lynch, and gets some additional powers and 1-2 bodyguards"-- I assume it's the former, in which case there's not a huge advantage to going mayor over instant majority, which increases the pressure on scum.


No reason to give all the power to a single person and eliminate any voting connections we can use, when the alternative is essentially a normal lynch.

Also, ##Vote: Sylencia
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 00:29 GMT
#216
If we all just agree on the instant majority option early, we can ensure people aren't able to comment freely on the mostly irreverent theme.

We can also use our knowledge of the roles that we picked for another player to our advantage. If we find someone using their role in a sub optimal anti-town way, we can just claim who we picked for and make them pay.

Also, look how scummy that Sylencia guy is! Lets vote for him.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 03:32 GMT
#269
Lets stop talking about the pick your poison mechanic. I think we've come to a decision and we don't need to hear 17 people explain why a secret ballot/mayor is a bad idea.

On February 13 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 09:32 Blazinghand wrote:
I've already signaled my role-reciever that I'm his role-creator, if he's smart enough to pick up on it. If he's not, well, that's pretty typical of him. But it's okay.


why would you want to do that?


I was also planning to ask this. From my perspective, I wouldn't want the player that I created a role for to know my identity, since it allows them to openly perform a fake claim the moment I die. A fake claim is a huge risk if you don't know if your role creator is still alive.

I'm also kinda weary that BH is potentially trying to buddy up to me from my previous post and is posting opinions that are absolute, but he appears to be the only other person actually trying to generate relevant discussion so I'm willing to give him a pass.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 12:53 GMT
#342
On February 13 2013 12:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also, BH is town, because as scum, there is no point to put yourself under the spotlight this early when you can use that post later in a larger analysis.


On February 13 2013 14:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Keirathi, why are you so confrontational this game? Are you scum?


These two posts seem to use the same reasoning to come to opposite conclusions. You're essentially saying BH is town since he is attacking you about the mayor post, yet Keirathi is scum for starting up conflict. This reminds me of chrono trigger mafia where risk.nuke used the same argument about Cave to call me scum and another player town.

Are you saying Keirathi usually doesn't play this way as town or what am I missing?

On February 13 2013 21:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah but Scum Marv tries to win, like he would try to look really townie and probably succeed. Lurky marv probably has IRL issues.
But yeah, I dont really think he is scum at this point.
I will rethink this read at lylo probably.


You wouldn't consider lynching marv until lylo? o.O

Vets shouldn't get special treatment. If he continues to be afk, he certainly isn't getting a free pass.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 23:46 GMT
#503
There have been a lot of one line posts and conversational posts. Can we at least try to put a little effort into keeping the thread and the filters manageable?

Generally with my random votes, I just pick the newest player or player I don't recognize to see how they respond and have them start posting. 90% of the time they respond along the lines of "why are you voting for me." and I eventually move on when I find someone else. In this case, I really would like to see a couple more votes on Sylencia. By voting for me in response to my random vote, it shows that he is reading the thread, but only responding to an issue that affects him. He has yet to comment on a relevant issue or shows that he cares about coming up with a plan to benefit town. It may be a lurker vote, but I think we should at least give him some motivation to post and move off tomorrow if we're satisfied and find a better target.

Kurumi, in response to your question about marv, I said that he shouldn't get special treatment for being absent just because he is a vet. There isn't anything in particular about his posting that I've picked up on yet since his return to the thread.

Oats, what kind of response were you hoping to get from Kierathi that would lead you to a town or scum conclusion, based on your earlier post?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2013 23:55 GMT
#505
On February 14 2013 08:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
But that's not a random vote, then.


I randomize until I get an outcome that I like.

...You almost tricked me into posting a one liner! For shame sir.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#512
lol again you show up only when I reference you -_-

What exactly don't you understand? Is there anyone that you are suspicious of yet?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 12:20 GMT
#584
On February 13 2013 09:51 Stutters695 wrote:
Seriously though with all of these game-types lurking is going to be a huge problem, I wouldn't be adverse to popping a lurker before we hit crazy mechanics unless someone is screaming scum.


The thing about stutters is that he even acknowledges the harm of a lurker, yet 36 hours into the game has yet to make a real post -_-

I'll try to check in during lunch to make my decision for today's lunch. Wish more people would actually start posting so we would have something to actually go by.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 17:46 GMT
#648
Don't worry austin, I'm still the bestest.

The toughest part for me is that I have no access to TL during the 9 hours of the day at work, so I'm limited to posting at certain times of the day and last night things were really slow. I have about 20 minutes left on my lunch break so hopefully I'll be able to decide by then.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#652
Right now, my gut read tells me that Sylencia is a newbie lurker.

On February 13 2013 10:14 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 09:29 kitaman27 wrote:
If we all just agree on the instant majority option early, we can ensure people aren't able to comment freely on the mostly irreverent theme.

We can also use our knowledge of the roles that we picked for another player to our advantage. If we find someone using their role in a sub optimal anti-town way, we can just claim who we picked for and make them pay.

Also, look how scummy that Sylencia guy is! Lets vote for him.


Guys I swear I don't know the man, if he's calling me scummy, he must be scum!

##Vote: kitaman27


On February 14 2013 15:01 Sylencia wrote:
Kurumi, since you're voting for me right now, can I ask you to let me perhaps share with you the fact I'm innocent tonight?


There really isn't much to go by with him, but so far Sylencia has only responded to people who have placed a vote on him, indicating that his prime concern is survival. He hasn't made any posts that show he cares about town or hasn't come up with any sort of plan that could benefit us. Even his comment about the PYP is a one liner that doesn't show very strong resolve.

On February 14 2013 09:48 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
There have been a lot of one line posts and conversational posts. Can we at least try to put a little effort into keeping the thread and the filters manageable?

Generally with my random votes, I just pick the newest player or player I don't recognize to see how they respond and have them start posting. 90% of the time they respond along the lines of "why are you voting for me." and I eventually move on when I find someone else. In this case, I really would like to see a couple more votes on Sylencia. By voting for me in response to my random vote, it shows that he is reading the thread, but only responding to an issue that affects him. He has yet to comment on a relevant issue or shows that he cares about coming up with a plan to benefit town. It may be a lurker vote, but I think we should at least give him some motivation to post and move off tomorrow if we're satisfied and find a better target.

Kurumi, in response to your question about marv, I said that he shouldn't get special treatment for being absent just because he is a vet. There isn't anything in particular about his posting that I've picked up on yet since his return to the thread.

Oats, what kind of response were you hoping to get from Kierathi that would lead you to a town or scum conclusion, based on your earlier post?


Mainly because I don't understand what is even happening in this game O_O


He also shows a lack of confidence or aggressiveness, which is generally a mafia trait. Even if he is overwhelmed by the setup, there are still plenty of player interactions to comment on. When I asked him if he had any suspicions, he said no and promised to catch up, but never did so. If this was his first game, maybe I'd understand, but looking through his old games, he has like 4-5 under his belt. By now he should be able to know what kind of things to look for and comment without being prompted.

For now, I'll keep my vote on Sylencia. Unfortunately, I have to head out yet. Hopefully by the time I get home I'll have time to look at the rest of the candidates.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:06 GMT
#833
Just got home. Catching up now.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:36 GMT
#880
On February 15 2013 03:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
@Kita: If your read is "newbie lurker", but you want to lynch him for that,does that mean you have no scumreads at all?


That should have read "mafia newbie lurker".

It's 40 minutes from the deadline and Sylencia still has his vote on myself. It would be one thing if he explained why he thought I was mafia, but from what I can tell he doesn't. He has shown no interest in hunting mafia today and out of the group of lurkers, I think he has the highest chance of flipping scum. I'd be stutters lynch, simply because he has a valid excuse for one cycle. Hassy is tougher, but I don't feel confortable voting for someone who is null, solely for the fact that we need to lynch someone.

iamimp I have down in my notes as leaning town, but I can't actually remember why I wrote that down for him. He seems to be freely giving out alignment opinions early in the game, which is a plus, but his lynch choice on stutters was pretty weak. I wouldn't put him in my top two though today and would prefer if we didn't lynch him right now.

oats would be my backup if I can't convince the majority to switch onto sylencia in the next 30 minutes (go do so now). The thing that caught my attention from him was his weird post with Keirathi. He seemed to infer that he thought Keirathi was scum based on his question, but when I pointed out the contradiction in his logic, he backed off the issue. If he truly was just poking at Keirathi like he claims, I'm not sure what answer he was expecting to get that would point to a town/scum alignment. He has swapped his vote three times to the flavor of the hour, but shows little interest in actually pushing his target.

As I said, I'm more confident of the chance that Sylencia will flip scum, but I have a moderate scum read on oats and would be willing to lynch him as well.

We really should consolidate our votes though. With a day one no-lynch, we essentially end up in the same place tomorrow, expect with the mafia night kills resolved. We might pull off an investigative check to help with the lynch, but a no lynch essentially shortens the game by one cycle and we shouldn't throw away our chance of generating information from the lynch vote today.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#893
On February 15 2013 08:39 Sylencia wrote:
Kita: I am going to change my vote, there's no point keeping it on you - seeing as how the vote wasn't even a serious one in the first place, I'm just reading through the last 3 pages again to understand where the main frontrunners are getting their votes from.


Doesn't it make more sense to come up with your own reasoning for why a player is scum, rather than jump on someone else's bandwagon? How are we supposed to have any idea if you are town if you don't give us anything in return?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:45 GMT
#898
On February 15 2013 08:40 austinmcc wrote:
kita, why leave the sylencia/kurumi stuff out of your read?


I didn't really come to any conclusions from it, other than the fact that sylencia found it important to respond to a player that was voting for him. Did you get something out of the exchange?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:53 GMT
#917
On February 15 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 08:45 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 15 2013 08:40 austinmcc wrote:
kita, why leave the sylencia/kurumi stuff out of your read?


I didn't really come to any conclusions from it, other than the fact that sylencia found it important to respond to a player that was voting for him. Did you get something out of the exchange?

I find it odd that you seem focused on sylencia as a scumread, but didn't mention or draw anything from what has been the only sylencia-centric exchange in the thread, imo.

Especially given that, if we can trust kurumi, there's some way in which they can check each other, meaning that sylencia may be a bad lynch at this time because we'll be certain/certainish about his alignment later.


I only noticed the Barrack Obama claim. I didn't catch kurumi's later post about the alignment confirming, though I'm still not quite sure I understand what he's saying.

Swapping to oats as he is my secondary preference and I want a lynch this cycle.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:58 GMT
#948
lol gotta love majority lynch. 47 hours of indecision, 5 minutes of panic voting. -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 14 2013 23:59 GMT
#953
A few extra votes will help to ensure the lynch. I'm always paranoid about a majority lynch setup where mafia might have vote altering mechanics.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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