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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:15 GMT
#1056
Of course it's possible. There's no confirmed towns and I can't give it to myself.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:16 GMT
#1059
On February 17 2013 07:15 Vivax wrote:
So, the guy has a gun now but couldn't choose who to shoot yet?

Yeah, he can't shoot N1.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:22 GMT
#1066
I really hope Toad's just making a play here because I don't see Marv flipping red.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:35 GMT
#1075
I'm not discounting the possibility scum has a mafia vigi if we have two deaths and town marv is one of them.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:36 GMT
#1076
Marv, care to help for that possibility at least?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:47 GMT
#1080
Marv suddenly being quiet does actually give me a slightly better feel about a flip.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:49 GMT
#1083
Oh okay nevermind
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:55 GMT
#1088
On February 17 2013 07:53 WeWinMafia wrote:
btw I lied to see if marv has a spreadsheet.

Good thing I didn't shoot Marv I guess.

On February 17 2013 07:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I really hope Toad's just making a play here because I don't see Marv flipping red.

Called it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:57 GMT
#1089
Also I didn't look into Yamato's meta because I never really looked into Yamato as I found the case on him bad to begin with. I looked into Grush because someone asked for my opinion on him so I checked his filter and it was bad. I only checked his other games when you mentioned this is how he usually played.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 22:58 GMT
#1091
No, a few hours before the lynch I was at a gig and I didn't have time to check it 20 minutes before the lynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 23:03 GMT
#1098
Hiro: I figure marv to be town, and I figure town marv will try to do what's best for town for which a fake shot doesn't help.
Also, this is interesting.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 23:15 GMT
#1116
On February 16 2013 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can we please get a warning on Zessionar for out of game threats?

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 23:37 GMT
#1139
I did, and I can't say that annoying you is on my top priority list of things to avoid right now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 11:30 GMT
#1227
On February 17 2013 19:06 syllogism wrote:
I think we should eliminate one of the non-contributors today. I'm finding it almost impossible to form at mafia team that doesn't include at least one such a player and even if we miss, it's not a disaster. If you feel that the description applies to you, now is the time to start investing time in the game because the clock is ticking.

Agreeing with this. Gonna check the filters of a few of these players. Too many people are flying under the radar whilst someone like marv with a massive filter as well as hammering scum is getting all the scrutiny. Mattchew barely has more than one page of filter, and risk.nuke, LayAbout and ObviousOne only on two. At least one of you is town guys, put in some effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 12:22 GMT
#1230
I'm gonna check out Hopeless' filter first before commenting on that, as I feel your case is pretty small.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 12:45 GMT
#1231
Acme Mini - Hopeless dies D2 as scum. About 2 pages of filter.
Mario Mini - Hopeless has 8 pages of filter by D2 as town.
To be fair, the activity on Mario was a lot bigger in general, but even taking that into account the two don't match up. In Mario, Hopeless was on top of everything. He responded to every little thing, made big cases, and in general played a very proactive game. In Acme, Hope1ess would focus his thoughts much more, writing concise, built up posts that seemed well thought out. From these two games, I extrapolate:
A town hopeless tends to post exactly what he thinks as soon as he thinks it, will look into things he finds suspicious proactively and is active.
A scum hopeless thinks over things and only posts after he's certain it's fine. Generally makes larger and fewer posts.
He's also more analytical.

In this game, I see hope1ess asking a lot of questions in the start and replying to other people's posts without them being about him necessarily. He also seems to be emotionally involved in the game evidenced by things like
Pointless shit, say for example: mccurrywurst?
which makes me feel that he actually felt offended by Zessionar's way of talking, something I'd consider townie. His vote also moves around a lot which is something he didn't do in his scum game, though he didn't do it in his townie game that I checked much either.

I don't think scum would be as bold as to simply say "I accept" to a case and vote on them for that. Call it WIFOM, but I think that indicates he's town more than that he's scum. That he ended up voting for Yamato, regardless of the circumstances, I'd consider something going in his favor as well. As for wanting Zess dead, I did too and I can see the justification for it easily, as I wanted him dead myself too. Hopeless seems relaxed in the game and he's definitely not my first candidate for termination.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 13:14 GMT
#1233
I don't think they would in general, but especially when they're already under the magnifying glass as hopeless had been with Marv's case. It's pretty bold.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 13:31 GMT
#1237
On February 17 2013 22:18 ObviousOne wrote:
Is there anything about Coag at this point that you want my opinion on? I've listed him in my current scum team along with grush, the one player we seem to agree on at this point. Is there enough here to get a meta read on him? Not that I'm suggesting I go with a meta read alone as a case on Coag. Simply asking it its worth the effort in his case.

I'd like your opinion on Coag, Mattchew, Risk.nuke and Layabout. I also don't think Grush is scum after looking into his meta.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 13:31 GMT
#1238
On February 17 2013 22:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think they would in general, but especially when they're already under the magnifying glass as hopeless had been with Marv's case. It's pretty bold.


just to note, my case came after Hopeless did that

Fair enough. That weakens my town read on him slightly. Still think he's town though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 14:03 GMT
#1241
Since you seem to like Coag the least of those, Could you make a case on him? He's played plenty of games so there's plenty of meta to look at. In the meantime
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