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On February 15 2013 07:03 sandroba wrote:
I'm reading this thread constantly yet I find no will whatsoever to comment on anything. Toad and Zes are spamming the thread and producing no info whatsoever, marv seems content to comment without actually moving things alone and syllo has yet to come here and complain I'm not posting enough and has been pretty inactive himself. For now I'm set on lynching ObviousOne, because he is lurking the most and I have no background on him or Coagulation who I've yet to see do anything relevant in any game I played with him (also because I enjoy lynching jackal, so his offspring will have to do in his absence).
do you have any read on syllo?
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On February 15 2013 07:10 Coagulation wrote:
ok sandroba whatever you say big guy.
remember how you did nothing on omgus.net and you were mafia
what are you doing this game?
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On February 15 2013 07:12 Coagulation wrote:
reading about hamburgers.
i'll happily lynch you, you know. And I can push it through. Consider it a threat.
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i wouldn't want to have your entire team pinned by day 2 again dear
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I mean, you've literally not mentioned another player once other than voting Hiro at the start for not talking about the smurf.
Why won't you play with us? </3
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On February 15 2013 07:28 Coagulation wrote:
well lets see layabout seems like a mislynch sandroba seems like an ass. not necesarrily alignment indicative but I wouldnt lose sleep over lynching him. hiropro is scummy as fuck with his "lynching for fun" and his withholding info from town but I dont know if he will actually flip scum or not. grush seems to not give a shit but I cant really claim hes scummy for it.
not bad. you may lurk until tomorrow afternoon, then.
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naw, i'm alright with coag for the minute. there's like 3 players i'd lynch above him right now anyway.
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On February 15 2013 08:00 WeWinMafia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:53 Coagulation wrote:
I think the only reason marv mentioned me was so he could make a sick brag post about catching my scum team day 1 last mafia game we played. just sayin. It still does raise the question why he did it about that time when I asked him to come up with something himself, when people like Sandro and laya delurked and you got in the thread telling people you're reading about burgers ( :3 ). He could have done that anytime he wanted to if that was the reasoning for posting it and he never actually considered you "weird" to begin with. Looks an awful lot like he's trying to look like he doesn't care with his agressive post towards me telling me to shut up while actually caring a lot about it. There's just no reason for marv to make that kind of post if he gives in nonetheless just a couple minutes later.
What coag said right below you.
And you have so little idea how to read what people are saying sometimes toad, it's astonishing.
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to your question about the strongest townplayers. I have very little grasp of any of super/syllo/toad's alignments. At all. Perhaps I lean a bit town on syllo because he was attentive in picking up things, and yet he's not pushed much.
On February 15 2013 08:29 Zessionar wrote:
and who is the scummiest player among these:
HiroPro
Hopeless1der
Artanis[Xp]
yamato77
grush57
layabout
Hopeless. Will explain later/tomorrow.
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On February 15 2013 19:08 syllogism wrote:
Oh it's an extended majority lynch too. Perhaps lynching someone who is so far unreadable and who isn't likely to post much isn't a terrible idea for a day 1 lynch with the way things are right now. I'm still suspicious of Yamato, but the longer post above looks ok and the wagon hasn't met much resistance so far.
Marvel do you actually find hiropro's yamato vote and the later justification suspicious? Do you have a read on yamato?
I do find the justification weak, but I'm not entirely sure if it's scummy. It's not a strong read but there are little behavioral snippets from Hiro that make me think maybe he's not mafia.
##Unvote
I have to check on yamato, normally by now I would expect to have reasonably strong feelings one way or the other, and I don't. Somehow I also have no idea how he racked up 5 ? votes.
My lunchbreak is in 2 hours so I'll try to find out what the fuck is going on with yamato and either confirm/reject my feelings on Hopeless, then.
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Well, his filter is short, which is fairly worrying for yamato. I still didn't see 5-vote worthy, though. He's also in another game so presumably his time is divided. His longer post, while I disagree with some of the thought processes, seem consistent with how I imagine him to play town, it goes from a to b, and it's not angry or irrational. So now I have to go find out exactly why everyone's voting for him.
*steals work time*
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Ok, so this yamato wagon is horrible. His votes:
Vivax - no reason
Zessionar - now unvoted, no reason originally
Hiro - 'insinuating' questions
layabout - not backing up Zess vote. He also makes a reasonable post about him:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 15 2013 10:11 layabout wrote:because you know, yamato was pretty vague in his accusations: He also jumps from "Zess being stupid with that vote" to "I do think Zess is likely mafia at this point. His attempts at "scum hunting" are truly pathetic. + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2013 00:33 yamato77 wrote:
I've never seen syllo and sandro in the game at the same time, yet I'm supposed to know they're all buddy buddy all the time?
Zess being stupid with that vote. Why are you trying to accuse me over questioning syllo's intentions? On February 15 2013 01:51 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 01:45 syllogism wrote:On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:On February 15 2013 01:33 risk.nuke wrote:On February 15 2013 01:25 yamato77 wrote:On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot. Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all? Read his posts and tell me if you reach a different conclusion otherwise I can't really be bothered to copying his posts and interpreting them for you.. It's not. However making up reasoning is. Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit. Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? This post seems off; do you think marv and risk are town? What is your current read on Zess? Marv I would say looks quite town, yes. I don't know about risk, but the fact that he's looking at Zess is encouraging. I do think Zess is likely mafia at this point. His attempts at "scum hunting" are truly pathetic. Suddenly zess being "stupid" has become zess is "bad" and "is mafia" because of this. The criticism is the same in both cases but the conclusion changes. When asked to clarify why zess is scum he describes his scumhunting as "careless" which tend to be a townie trait. And that he shows a "disregard for justification" which he himself has also shown. + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2013 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
I'm attacking how he is scum hunting, which is carelessly and with no regard for justification. I think yamato felt that he could safely put his vote on zessionar following (Artanis[Xp] and Hopeless1der) because he had been the center of discussion. He was not prepared to back it up because he has no good reasons and because he is mafia and wants to get his vote down and hide from attention.
A lot of this is reasonable. For example: When asked to clarify why zess is scum he describes his scumhunting as "careless" which tend to be a townie trait. This is true, but yamato's thought processes aren't always completely correct. He actually DOES believe stuff like this as town, he's not quite refined what makes someone town and someone mafia.
Finally,
Hopeless - sheep.
There's only one backed up vote on the wagon, which is layabout's. Anyway, I'm not totally confident yamato is town or anything, but I think he's a bad lynch for today at any rate.
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I think he looks bad and he's the "backup" lynch
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there's nothing to pressure. he can be lynched at any time.
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certainly i think he's a better lynch than yamato.
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On February 15 2013 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
there's nothing to pressure. he can be lynched at any time.
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it all seemed reasonable enough. he's not pushing anything mafia-oriented or anything as far as i can see. Calling layabout a mislynch? Well if layabout is town and coag is mafia, he has no interest in doing that.
I play mafia on coag's site offsite (omgus.net) which means on a fairly consistent basis over the last 6+ months or so I've been playing in games with coag, so I have a certain grasp of his play. The fact he splurged a bunch more comments after that post is also a positive thing.
I mentioned it earlier, but we just finished a game there where I was town and he was mafia, and he made a grand total of about 6 posts before conceding to me on Day 2. And he always posts more on that site than he does on TL, too.
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i'm not sure, but i think he is. his pushes on both hopeless and yamato are logical.
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On February 15 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 23:34 Zessionar wrote:
because a townie that wants to win is either honest and says he didnt do his homework or he fucking does his homework and doesnt come up with terrible cases.
first four players... speedanalysis... Are you serious?
Is this serious? He's clearly looked into the players and pulled things out the filters he found interesting.
What are you trying to pull here, Artanis?
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On February 15 2013 23:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
He claims that townies wouldn't put up a case without much research, yet he throws down 'speed cases'. The word speed case implies to me that he only took a quick look. If he's been more thorough, than that definition seems very off.
are they badly researched? do you disagree with what he said in them?
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