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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 18:36 GMT
#571
On February 16 2013 03:35 grush57 wrote:
Hooray halfday at school!
Zess makes lists.
The one super guide said scum makes lists.
Plus, the fact that he is scum tells me he is a good lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Zessionar

Any thoughts on yamato or wewinmafia?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 18:38 GMT
#573
On February 16 2013 03:33 WeWinMafia wrote:
Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM?
I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it.

The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in".
The second one was something about some guy being too serious.
The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end.

were you mafia or town in that game?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this? Do you not think that he is supersoft?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 18:39 GMT
#575
Oh I see now
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:10 GMT
#590
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:25 GMT
#593
On February 16 2013 04:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.

did you think hopeless is a good choice?

I agree we should be lynching yamato today but I was really confused when I saw Marv say he thinks we should be lynching hopeless yesterday saying he'll explain today. I almost suspected some kind of bullshit "ha just kidding to see who would jump on the train with no reasoning" move.
I'm just not agreeing with an awful lot he's saying this game, which is odd considering that we came to the exact same conclusions last time we played together.

No, I did not think he was a good lynch and do not think he is one now. His post about someone not actually RNGing their "rng" vote is probably the only thing I find suspicious about his play so far, that seemed opportunistic.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:28 GMT
#596
On February 16 2013 04:22 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.


so marvs play is okay for you right?

No, I've voiced some suspicions about his play so far, but I'm not lynching him either today and even if I wanted to, it's unlikely to happen with extended majority lynch. If he is mafia, it will be easier to tell later and if not, he is going to get shot at some point.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:30 GMT
#597
On February 16 2013 04:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm not comfortable lynching yamato. This bandwagon seems to go way too easily with not enough reasoning.

Who would your choice then be, still Wewinmafia/Toad? A lot of people have been pushing Supersoft lynch as well and he is in fact currently the vote leader.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:46 GMT
#608
On February 16 2013 04:37 Toadesstern wrote:
syllo mind voting yamato? You just came to the conclusion that Yamato is the only guy we should be lynching today and I don't see your vote on him.

##vote Yamato
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:07 GMT
#615
On February 16 2013 03:49 Vivax wrote:
Would be kinda weird for scum Zess to push marv when he's pressuring me.

But do you still want to lynch Zess?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:12 GMT
#618
On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself.

It's a bit weird how Toad never got more than one vote despite us both being suspicious of him at various points.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:14 GMT
#619
On February 16 2013 04:06 Keirathi wrote:
WeWinMafia (1) - Artanis[XP]



Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Deadline is in roughly 4 hours.

If you notice any errors in the vote count, please let me know!

This is wrong, Sandro voted WeWinMafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:16 GMT
#621
On February 16 2013 05:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Syllo, sandroba, why did you never elaborate on toad after I asked you to?

I don't see it on your filter, what in particular do you want elaborated?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:23 GMT
#625
On February 16 2013 05:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 05:12 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself.

It's a bit weird how Toad never got more than one vote despite us both being suspicious of him at various points.


How can you say "it's a bit weird" when this was the extent of your suspicions of Toad?

Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:15 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:10 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'll settle on lynching toad then. Does anyone have any compeling reason to believe the dude is town?

His conversations with marvel seem somewhat genuine, in that if marvel is mafia, toad is slightly less likely to be. I'm up for lynching him though, due to what I said earlier and him posting quite a bit without the content being in any way useful.


Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.




That's not the extent of my suspicions

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17793213
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17794483

My point is mostly that if one of the people we are pushing right now is mafia, I would have expected mafia at some point make an attempt at getting Toad lynched. It's much easier and safer to push a lynch that has the support of players people often listen to. Perhaps they opted to wagon someone else.

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:30 GMT
#632
On February 16 2013 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 02:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think 3 and 4 are opposed to eachother at all. In 3, you expand a lot on something that is trivial at best, yet in 4 you accuse someone of scum without providing any backing for it. Your posts about trivial things are big, yet your one accusatory post is unreasoned. Do you understand my problem with where you spend your energy?

It'd be great if said players could confirm that. Can't go through the filter of those games right now myself. However, I wasn't the only one suspicious of you. It'd be nice if people like sandro spoke up and said what they thought.

Tell me how my exchange with toad influenced your reads and why. Also, why did you think he was scum in the first place? Please give me something more than 'a general feel'.

I didn't agree with your points about him, because Toad tends to post a lot of fluff in general and the other points are not things I use as a heuristic. His responses were fairly reasonable I guess, but since I didn't agree with your heuristics in the first place they didn't influence my read. The exchange made you look townier, but I never considered you a good lynch anyway.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 20:34 GMT
#637
On February 16 2013 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 05:23 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 05:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 16 2013 05:12 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself.

It's a bit weird how Toad never got more than one vote despite us both being suspicious of him at various points.


How can you say "it's a bit weird" when this was the extent of your suspicions of Toad?

On February 16 2013 00:15 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:10 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'll settle on lynching toad then. Does anyone have any compeling reason to believe the dude is town?

His conversations with marvel seem somewhat genuine, in that if marvel is mafia, toad is slightly less likely to be. I'm up for lynching him though, due to what I said earlier and him posting quite a bit without the content being in any way useful.


On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.




That's not the extent of my suspicions

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17793213
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17794483

My point is mostly that if one of the people we are pushing right now is mafia, I would have expected mafia at some point make an attempt at getting Toad lynched. It's much easier and safer to push a lynch that has the support of players people often listen to. Perhaps they opted to wagon someone else.



Does this not suggest that Toad could be mafia, then?

Yes, that was the point. Anyway, it's an extended majority lynch and perhaps I assigned too much significance on his supersoft interactions, so I will likely be willing to move my vote to Toad if necessary, depending on how things develop.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 21:02 GMT
#651
Toad where are you? Your play has been very defensive and the yamato switch looked a bit opportunistic. Shouldn't you be here giving us something since right now the decision is likely going to be between you and yamato?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 21:11 GMT
#656
ObviousOne drop your obnoxious gimmick, it's just making your posts annoying to read and possibly harder to get a read of as well. Are you open to voting Yamato or Toad? Your vote may be needed as it's an extended majority lynch and we aren't no lynching.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 21:41 GMT
#686
I'm not voting supersoft, even if it means no lynching. Just so you know
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 21:44 GMT
#692
On February 16 2013 06:41 sandroba wrote:
I have to go right now. I'm debating wether to move my vote to yamato to assure a lynch, any sugestions? I don't think anyone else (besides him and maybe WWM) can be lynched today so people voting others should prob move their vote. I have like 5 min to decide =/

What do you think about Vivax? I guess 5 minutes isn't enough for this discussion.

Vivax's play certainly doesn't look like LVIII or whatever, but it also doesn't look like his mafia play in that mini with wbg and palmar.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 21:46 GMT
#696
Is that deadline correct? A bit over two hours?
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