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On February 18 2013 16:39 Sylencia wrote: When we should no lynch properly? It is clearly the right time to do it now. Call me scum for talking about setup speculation here but so far what we have is 1 Serial Killer 1 Mafia Roleblocker (only confirmed by me, take it as you wish) 2 Mafia / Mafia Roles 1 Tracker 4 Town 4 Town / Blue Again, take this as you wish but I have already claimed I'm not blue. That puts it to 5 Vanilla and 3 Unknown. That doesnt make sense.. we have had 3 VTs flip; 1 SK and 1 blue. *IF* you flipped VT; would that not leave 4 vanilla flipped... you wrote 5 above... i dont think it was a typo as you adjusted unknown to 3. If you going to setup speculate.. why are you inserting erroneous statements such as the above? Quite misleading if you ask me. Due to what we have seen from the setup: Nosy Neighbour doesn't affect much, it's still essentially just a green role. No one else has claimed being Roleblocked. That pretty much rules out there being a Jailkeeper. A Vigilante would've killed me by now. That leaves there to be either a Watcher or a Veteran that are likely candidates to be the other blue role. If you no lynch with a Watcher in town, and assuming they were watching Test last night because it's the obvious thing to do, they can very well watch another night on a potential target, reveal who they saw the previous night during the final hour of tonight, and if they remain alive - they can potentially reveal another. With a veteran, we stay in the same 5:3 situation but with another confirmed town member, which still leaves us in pretty much the same situation as we are in now, but with a confirmed town giving out a vote for another day. As an aside: to all I fuckn hope somebody "watched" testsubject last night, but so far, no one has stepped up. The problem is.. if somebody stepped up now and said they are the watcher, and wanted to "judge reactions" I would have thought its too late to automatically believe. When TestSubject caught OO, he presented it within an hour. If we believe the "watcher" and it leads to a mislynch, and then scum NK; we are pretty much fucked. Setup speculation The only reason I can think of the "watching" outcome being held is if.. multiple parties visited TestSubject....(i.e. killer + ?nosy neighbour? or whatever else) This is really grasping at straws though; and I prefer to work with what I know = scum hunt. | ||
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On February 18 2013 17:10 Sn0_Man wrote: I only mentioned a no lynch because we COULD BE AT MYLO and if we keep voting like utter retards (see: first vote) then maybe a no-lynch is preferable. However, I don't think we are at no lynch stage yet. For example, I think I'll be voting Sylencia today, although I admit I haven't finished my "Filter dive" This is my before-bed post don't expect answers for another indeterminately long period. Thats for making an appearance; I hope your vote is submitted at least a few hours before the deadline - preferably more. I think it is essential for votes to be transparent; and void of confusion. I think this will prevent mafia making a play to affect votes. | ||
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On February 18 2013 21:13 zarepath wrote: I like the discussion so far. Can you point out what you like? its been pretty frustrating for me.... | ||
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On February 18 2013 22:40 Sylencia wrote: Also, as for my double roleblock claim, why is it that only Mocsta, Sevryn and Warbaby have commented about it (all three have chosen to say I'm lying here too), and everyone else has chosen to somewhat ignore it altogether? Because we are the only three commenting in general.. perhaps? | ||
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On February 18 2013 22:30 Sylencia wrote: Firstly, Thanks for taking the time to review the filter.<Insert case> I dunno how corazon will feel about this Sevryn case considering: On February 18 2013 16:59 cDgCorazon wrote: If you don't make a read within 12 hours on someone other than Sevryn and Mandalor, you're getting my vote. WB won't be acceptable. I will give my 2c anyways. The one point you raised I agree with: Sevyrn doesn't answer direct questions, he 'flips' them back I agree, this is a scummy thing to do; but by itself is not scummy. I dont think the other behaviours you identified are scummy; rather... I think most of the points raised are OMGUS, or taking the least possible scenario as the basis for being scum. e.g. "Sevryn pointed out scum RB.. because I only mentioned town JK" If anything, he picked up on an erroneous comment from you and brought it to the fore. i.e.the logic you were sprouting does not assume a scum RB exists... considering you have been 'roleblocked twice' this is indeed convenient. - and something I did not pick up on till you quoted his post now... | ||
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On February 18 2013 22:52 Sylencia wrote: In regards to what you've posted in the second statement, I didn't post that, that was TestUser? Or are you suggesting that I'm a scum roleblocker now, and that I've been jailkept twice? It would potentially hold up if TestUser didn't die last night. My bad, I assumed the quote was yours  hmmm; well regardless the logic was erroneous; to be valid it needs to consider either RB or JK can exist. I dont see how that makes Sevryn scum; if anything, its a townie trait to pick up on fine details like that. If he was scum; and if a scum RB did exist... wouldnt he just let the comment go, so people auto assume RB is not in play? So not suggesting whether the RB claims are genuine or not. And not suggesting you been JK > RB. I dont know, its all WIFOM. | ||
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On February 18 2013 22:52 Sylencia wrote: Essentially most of my reads come from players within any player I've been banned from talking about, I'm kind of shut out of doing anything there. I don't see how personally. Lets take your theory; that there is 3 scum. Three lurkers = Mandalor, Sevryn and yourself. Town thinks scum lies in the lurkers. You think you are not scum. Henceforth; at least one scum resides in the non-lurkers. I believe the intention of corazon post, was to figure out who that "at least one" scum was. Now... that I have to spell this out to you, is a concern.... | ||
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So let me get this straight.
LOL... so let me get this right then...
*Clap* Full marks for creativity. You give me too much respect if you think I can muster a plan like that. OOO and to add to all that busing and elaborate plans; scum have decided to fully reveal themselves by unanimously voting YOU; even though its not game over with a NK... lol right... Nice try Sylencia. On February 17 2013 10:47 Mocsta wrote: ##Vote:Sylencia | ||
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I can't help but feel the only reason u spent time on Sylencia is because he made a case on you. Prove to us you are here to scum hunt, and make a case on someone other than Mandalor. My vote can still change, so don't think for a second you are off the hook. Also, Sylencia raised a valid point I want addressed. Direct questions your way tend to get flipped. So I am going to re-ask you... Do you think u have scum hunted and why are your contributions better than the other lurkers | ||
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On February 19 2013 02:32 warbaby wrote: 2) Sn0_man, Zarepath, and Mandalor are getting a free ride so far D3. Mocsta asked when this would start to get stinky -- I'd say right about now is when I crinkle up my nose and start considering lynching a real lurker 4) How would you guys feel about lynching mandalore instead, since he's currently lurking harder than the other two? In sylencia's credit, he won't go down without a fight If I were a scum in his shoes I'd just give up, lol. #2 - Agreed, we are 8 hrs from lynch. It is unacceptable for all three...But this is stating what we already said before. #4 - I could swing to mandalor considering his input this cycle is non-existent. + i havnt liked any of his contributions all game. But I think it is a weak heuristic to assume scum give up => Sylencia is clear. I ask instead; has Sylencia actually put up a fight worth discussing? It has taken until he has received multiple votes AND requests before entering the fray with a case - a pretty weak one at that as well. I think before I could seriously consider a vote swap to Mandalor; I would want Sylencia to provide some evidence to back up why he thinks you, me and sevryn are a scum team - without being full of OMGUS. | ||
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On February 19 2013 02:44 cDgCorazon wrote: At this point they're just bussing each other. Could make sense; but I think its best to save bus theory for post flip - otherwise its all assumptions/associations. | ||
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On February 19 2013 04:48 Sevryn wrote: you dont think my current case is better than the glurio case? the vote is similar but thats how i phrase my vote when I am pretty sure someone is scum but whale cum back sno English active lurker.. | ||
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there isnt even a conclusion. (i.e. vote) You are my strongest town read; but... .this is really lack luster (you are accusing syvern of WIFOM; but what you produced is WIFOM itself... now you are sugegstin scum is writing his cases or somethign?? The real qusetion is.. have u seen anything on sylencia that makes you say TOWN? | ||
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On February 18 2013 21:13 zarepath wrote: I should be back for the day. Catching up, filter reading, etc. *Friendly Reminder* WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU!! Its less than 5hrs to lynch.... (1) Who are you voting for & why (2) Do you think it is acceptable to be absent for this long a period when we are potentially entering MYLO | ||
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Dont forget about zarepath, he hasnt chipped in. and Sn0_Man seems to have disappeared again? | ||
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On February 19 2013 07:16 Sn0_Man wrote: To add: was my vote/play this weekend lazy as can be? Yes. This was a long weekend (today aka monday still a holiday) and weekends I don't prioritize mafia. Maybe that isn't acceptable to you but that is how I play. If the game is still going and I'm alive, I'll be back in full tomorrow. Yeah that's fine. I can understand weekends. And the last 24hrs is due to long weekend. Km I don't understand ya point with watcher and godfather. But its nothing to do with this lynch, so will ask during night if needed. I can't believe zarepath has not commented | ||
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