EPT##vote: jiexian
I dont see it going any other way. Everyone is yelling die scum die.
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Mr. Cheesecake
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##vote: jiexian I dont see it going any other way. Everyone is yelling die scum die. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Indeed it is. We're lynching JX today with anyway with or without my vote . Who the heck are you gonna vote prphlz? | ||
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So who the heck are the lynch candidates? It's nightime, so that means we lynch one of the 3 targets scum chose beforehand? And Mocsta, Snarfs wasn't the only one who 'resisted' the JX lynch, prplhz did as well. I just remember his going like "zomg this guy is prolly town wtf r u doin' bruh" when I left. | ||
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I also think the entire VE wagon is coming together a bit too nicely. That, and it's spearheaded by Snarfs which just irks the hell out of me. Although, the one point I can agree on is his voting behavior and dat omgus vote on Snarfs. I'd rather explore other avenues than VE in the meantime until scum nominate players. See y'all when I wake up. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Anyways, I'll be around for a while if y'alls has les questions. Gonna prep some stuff for the following day. | ||
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On February 08 2013 22:25 Mocsta wrote: Mr Cheesecake. I have a question why cheesecake vs mudcake? I guess I should change my name to Mudcake since pies won dessert mini and banished all cheesecakes from liquidia =| | ||
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You have a tendency to say in 3 paragraphs what could have been said in two sentences. Either way, why are you dubbing him town? I don't see "good-bad townie" like you do... In fact you keep calling him town I'm confused. You basically are calling him out for not scumhunting consistently and pushing the mislynch aside. If town, he's certainly not good. I really can't draw many conclusions from your discussion other than Jay pushed the JX wagon before anyone else and hasn't done shitelse but RNG pressure Djo and stuff. He's one of the guys Imma look into a bit later so I'll update you then. | ||
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I wanted to lynch JX (and suggested it) over Palmar in that case, snarfs still being my vote / priority, but I'd consolidate on JX if we really wanted to lynch a lurker because I'd rather not risk losing a town Palmar this early. Then somehow the JX wagon overtook my Snarfs wagon and all hell broke loose. | ||
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On February 09 2013 00:33 Mocsta wrote: How did you miss VE as the Policy Lurker advocate? + pls give feedback on: Been working on a decent sized post so haven't really been f5ing too much xD I wasn't in the game for the first day pretty much so I wasn't too concerned with names before I got in here. I did some preliminary notetaking but a policy lurker lynch seemed pretty null tell and reasonable for this game type. JX over Palmar was my stance on lurker lynching, and I suggested that we lynch him if at all a lurker. I called him scummy quite early. Did I start the counter-wagon to my own lynch??? What, lol. In reference to your second quote, One person stuck out in my mind about the lynch... it was prphlz. Came in here was like "zomg this guy is prolly town" and called out people voting him, wanted to vote Jay I think? But never did. People defended him as lynch bait, but Prphlz was really scummy about it. Who didn't comment on the JX lynch? | ||
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It's all about SlOosh and Palmar stepping it up right now. | ||
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Jaybrundage Votes Djo for RNG bullshit. Case spoilered for reference. On February 07 2013 09:42 jaybrundage wrote: + Show Spoiler + Howdy all The person that stuck out the post for me was Djo. I'm surprised more people haven't commented on him. He starts out with his post. He seemingly "randomly" picks Oats out for a RNG lynch. But he uses Oats post number and uses a number that will give him Oats as his target. Its not random so why does he call it random. On February 06 2013 20:11 Djodref wrote: This post was the 1131th post from Oast. I propose to use this number as the number to get our lynch candidate for today ! I'm going to give numbers from 0 to 11 to the players after me in the filter list and calculate 1131 modulo 12 which gives 3. This random lynch on Oastmaster has one chance over three to hit scum which is better than the average scum lynch on d1. So I propose a random lynch on Oast. I'm pretty sure I'm going to generate discussion. ## Vote Oats He proposes using the random lynch to create discussion. But then uses it as an excuse to stop conversation and discussion and not give his thoughts on Mocsta. On February 06 2013 20:46 Djodref wrote: And to answer your question, I did not say that you did exactly what you did in your last scum game. But while reading, I also thought about this game before Oats brought it up in the thread. So, yeah, I'm suspicious of you but not enough to drop my random lynch on Oats ^^ When Oats ask's him what his thoughts are on lynching him. Djo again dodges the question further showing that he never intended to try to participate in the conversation and discussion that his RNG lynch was supposed to create. He instead sidesteps the question because he wants other players to comment first. Citing Palmar as well trying to get solid town vet behind it. On February 06 2013 21:12 Djodref wrote: I'd like to answer this question after I get the input from other players if you don't mind. I also would like Palmar to weight in on the random lynch thing ^^ How sure are you that Mocsta is scum by the way ? What is the most definite case you can bring against him ? Every since his RNG lynch he has been pushing Oats and not really contributing hiding behind his lynch to get away with saying anything of significance. Town Djo can write a damn good case. I think we have scum Djo here hiding behind a RNG to not contribute. Also note his complete disappearing act after contributing nothing. ##Vote Djodref My concern with this is, it's an easy case to make. Scum want to pick out the easymode lynches. Kind of like how people pick on Mr. Z for being 'obvious scum' when he's always town, the guy that attacks him in usually scum. Like Mr. Z, Djo is an extremely easy target to point a finger at this early in the thread. No comments on Mocsta - Oats penis measuring contest, just snipes at Djo. His next big revelation is that JX has been useless and he would loves to lynch him: On February 07 2013 10:59 jaybrundage wrote: @Oats my biggest scum read atm is Djo as i said so far. However as the day goes on ill be willing to consolidate if no one wants to lynch djo I also think JX has been useless so far and wouldn't mind lynching him. Okay, so an easy vote and an easy scumread on JX because he's useless and stuff. Then there's this post... On February 07 2013 13:25 jaybrundage wrote: Rofl didn't even read the game you cohosted. Trolling you in scum QT was fun  And yes that flavor was sexy not gonna lie. @Yamato You have alot more town reads then i would expect. Im also very interested in why you read prphz and CC they way you do. What made you think there town? Also is lurking the only criteria you have for making scum. Remember that Mocsta said in his scum QT last time that he wanted to be a leader in the town as scum. He has the desire. I don't think your giving him enough credit as a scum player. Dismissing him just because he applies effort is a bit disconcerting. Did you think he was gonna just say im scum you got me. @Mocsta if you could rate your scum play 1-10 what would you rate it. @Djo you choice 12 in your RNG to pick Oats as far as i believe @CC Your current best scum read. Also your biggest townie read @prphz Stop lurking. @JX Stop lurking @Palmar Stop lurking Oh my goodness this post. Asks questions to half the thread. I don't understand what the point of 'stop lurking' to 3 people and asking mocsta what he'd rate his scumplay have to do with scumhunting buuuut okay. He proceeds then to pressure Djo for more of his RNG bullshit, which is bullshit sure, but this pressure is not really achieving anything. His vote on JX is suspect because I can't find a place in his filter where he has a discussion with JX. His reasoning seems also very sheepish and weak. Overall, Jay is just that guy who goes for the ez 'loluobvscumbrah' vote, and then the ez sheep / consolidate vote. Leaning scummer on Jay right meow. Mocsta From the start of the thread, the interaction between Oats/him made me lean more townie on Oats than him. Just searching through his filter I was like holy crap that many pages... He hasn't been on my scumdar at all lately. Recently, he asked me to go through his discussion with Jay. One thing I found weird: On February 08 2013 13:29 Mocsta wrote: I have had a re-read of Vers guide, and starting to look for specific things in play. Jay, you are pinging the shit out of my scum-dar. -snip- On February 08 2013 14:52 Mocsta wrote: Jay, So if you dont see reasons for scum; how do you rate your town play this game as: pro-town, bad townie, or in the middle?? I still think we had different motives to consolidate. And I am still concerned you made a comment to consolidate and then fucked off. As I have said repeatedly, where is your commitment to developing your read via pressure/analysis/alternative means? Your play reads as if you dont care. All my questions regarding commitment you have dodged; why is that? Jay Do you have a top scum read? & why Who is your top town read? & why If you can answer these simple questions, that would go a way towards showing me you actually care. On February 08 2013 23:02 Mocsta wrote: CC can you give thoughts on the convo between me/jay do you see good townie, bad townie, or other? Am I the only one that finds this weird? Calls him scum then keeps asking if he's a good town or bad town... Maybe he knows Jay is town? Who really cares what Jay thinks of his town play anyway, it doesn't help us find scum. Perhaps, but a 9 page filter already... Mocsta (generally) seems rather pro-town at this stage. With a 9 page filter he's certainly not being apprehensive, but scum mocsta isn't afraid to do that. I'm a bit curious of him at this stage, rather leaning townie. Phagga He's really friggen paranoid. Take a look-see On February 06 2013 18:55 phagga wrote: I never wanted to imply those things. I see Oats behaviour as disruptive, and I see how he misinterpreted your posts. It is also fine that you call him out on this, it's just the way you did it on a few occasions that got my attention. First, I never ever wanted to suggest we RNG the votes! That would kill of discussion and is absolutely unnecessary. I just wanted to say that statistically, random lynches on D1 would be more successful than what town normally is doing, hence lynching lurkers (who can be a liability for town later on) D1 is a viable option. Nevertheless, our goal has to be to find scum and lynch them, starting D1. How the D1 lynch should go down IMO: - If we have a clear scum suspect, let's lynch him - If not, but there is a lurker who we can not get any alignement of, lynch him. Finally, only because the setup SHOULD mitigate lurking does not mean there will be no lurkers. I mentioned this earlier and it still bugs me. "Holy crap I didn't mean to come off scummy I never ever meant to suggest we RNG votes thats so anti-town I'm not anti-town guys seriously". Phagga comes off as suuuuuper paranoid, like he's got something to cover up. In addition, the bottom bolded part is more obvious than Mr. Obvious McObvious. Nice contribution to the thread! He also comes off as paranoid here: On February 08 2013 02:51 phagga wrote: Dude I wrote i am on the train, how about you read my posts? Yes, set on jx. My point was more about scum abusing palmars meta, his behaviour so far is just not alignement-indicative, and he is probably the only one that I would let get away with it. Snarf I feel unsure about, have to read up fully on his case on VE. I currently think he might be right about VE, so I do not want to lynch him I ask him if he'd like to lynch Snarfs with me, and completely is like "No wtf I said I'm lynching JX what are you even talking about" Next is his sheepy reasons for voting JX On February 07 2013 18:55 phagga wrote: My vote goes to JieXian for coming into the thread and voting Mocsta for a bad reason, then completely disappearing again. ##Vote JieXian Regarding Palmar: he is trolling hard, I dont know if all you got this: Nevertheless, he is trolling D1 as either town or scum, and I know how good a player he can be, so I hesitate to lynch him for now. prplhz dissappearance is worrying, might be timezone related. His filter is devoid of analysis. I hope to see some more from him in the next few hours. I will read up on Djo and Snarfs at the next possibility and comment on them. He literally gives a sentence to support it, and it's been said before. By myself and by some others. The rest of the thread he doesn't even question JX much, just keeps his vote content there while he talks about prphlz and pressures VE. He has this huge post about VE and his voting with red text and all, but never votes him... he's confident in the JX lynch somehow. It's confusing: is he avoiding talking of JX in order to distance himself from a green flip? I see no scumhunting from him in regards to JX the entirety of day. Such little interaction with him. It's like he was more concerned about a next lynch so he can set up his scumread on VE after JX dies. Also wtf is all this crap: On February 07 2013 18:56 phagga wrote: sniped by JX, but doesn't really change anything for my vote for now. On February 07 2013 22:56 phagga wrote: oh wow, I got sniped big time. Reading up. On February 08 2013 06:40 phagga wrote: Bah, sniped again. Still, it's not like this is a completely uncontested lynch. Also, where the hell is sloosh? Keeps 'getting sniped' lol. Not alignment indicative but it made me laugh. The fact that he votes but never really talks to JX should be indicative enough that he didn't care about the lynch. Leaning hard scumster on this dude. He's paranoid as hell, shitty reasons / contributions to lynching JX, and posting obvious things early game that do nothing to help town. Snarfs Was soooo confirmation biased against this dude. Yamato was tellin' me not to be... but you know what? Idc he's scummy. I have my quarrels with him over my filter, and he seems so much like a tunnely scum. I'll elaborate more later.' As of now, I'll lynch Jay / Phagga / Snarfs after nomination lynch. Oh, where's Djo? Did he forget his posting hat/wand/cape this game? Haven't read the last couple pages since I went to sleep, catching up now. Might post between shoveling out the snow. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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VE... you said i was on your to do list earlier, what happened to that? Glad to hear your sentiment on Snarfs. Djo plz get in with your reads... i wrote you off as being stupid djo this game but now you're irritating me. All my other games you were so post happy. Palmar seems to be on my train of thought with some scumreads which i like... idk how hes coming to the same conclusions, if he shows his work ill prolly be voting sloosh over him. If he's not going to justify his reads well, then he's pretty useless to us if hes town. I await his next megapost. peace guys, stay warm. | ||
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