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On February 08 2013 02:58 Oatsmaster wrote: JX, is there a scum motivation for my 180?
Cause the town motivation is to stop a mislynch.
scum motivation is to stop a scum lynch LAH
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oats will lynch oats with me?
I think snarf's case was bad too but VE really deserves the meta case on him especially with that last post.
However it's nowhere near as blatant as what oats is doing
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On February 08 2013 03:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah CC, HORRIFYING 180.
Anyway yeah thought I would see Palmars old games, came across that gem, and since I respect marv very much, I decided that he wasnt saying bullshit and that is what Palmar would do if he rolled scum.
Ok JX, other than my 'scummy' 180, is there anything else that makes you think I am scum?
You've only decided to do it after 3 people have voted Palmar, but not before showing a page worth of filter of your intentions to lynch him.
All you've done is fight with mocsta and scream LYNCH PAMLAR
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On February 08 2013 03:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I won't lynch Oats with you. Until I see either of them flip, I'm not sure of the motives behind the 180. Considering Palmar hasn't done anything, it's probably easy for either alignment to flip a read on him because it's 100% based on meta.
I'm apprehensive about keeping my vote on Snarfs: I think that VE's vote was lulzy and I need to consider my propensity for confirmation bias (See: Witchcraft).
I'm pretty fucking sure Palmar is town atm if Oats is scum
On February 08 2013 02:58 Oatsmaster wrote: JX, is there a scum motivation for my 180?
Cause the town motivation is to stop a mislynch.
Remember, this was his first response. That sounded more like he knows that Palmar is town and was planning to claim credit for it later on.
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Referring to:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2013 02:54 JieXian wrote:OatsWants to lynch Palmar: Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 12:01 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont care if Palmer is town actually at this point, he hasnt posted enough for ANYONE to get a read on him Vets cannot let their reputation carry the game for them, especially since there are no nightkills in this game so its not like he is gonna die day 1 if he is really good. This is a pure LURKER lynch.
Mr CC has contributed more than him and he replaced like 12+ hours later.
##Unvote ##Vote: Palmer. Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 18:15 Oatsmaster wrote: I am voting for Palmer because he knows better, he really does. At least I hope so :/ Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 20:57 Oatsmaster wrote: The problem is that he skates by by his reputation, which I dont think is a good way to play and is abhorrent to the notion of playing to win
he didnt say anything about being busy, nothing is indicated in his tone that he is busy. He is just trolling. And I dont care how 'good' he is, this play shouldnt be encouraged. Talking about Palmer by the way. Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok lynching Palmer in 2 days.
IMMINENT.
Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Mr CC Why are we not lynching Palmer today, given that he has produced NOTHING of actual worth? Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote: CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him? But suddenly makes a U turn and magically digs out a quote from Marv. I have no idea how someone could have not known that that quote existed earlier for quoting it now. Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: JieXian
You ask why? Cause he sheeped onto Palmer. Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:The reason why I think Palmar is town this game, much to my regret is, On January 03 2013 09:01 marvellosity wrote:On January 03 2013 08:54 Toadesstern wrote:On January 03 2013 08:48 marvellosity wrote: Toad, stop trolling as well. Enough. If you're being serious, you're scum, so I can only presume you're trolling. Why because if you think that killing wbg-town is a "win" situation, then you must be scum. So you must be trolling. So stop it. Anyway, I could explain a little more why Palmar could be scum. Palmar and I both play scum or town in a certain kind of way. When we're town we're usually active and trying to figure things out, and it's obvious we're interested. Or maybe Palmar looks totally uninterested, and that's usually when he's town as well. It's when Palmar (and me) *pretend* to be interested that we're more likely to be scum. There's no need to pretend as town and generally neither of us do. Everything Palmar posted so far took him absolutely no effort and he just made a bunch of posts in the thread to look like he's here and he cares and shit, although actually there's no evidence that this is the case. All of you are going "omg Palmar posting a lot, probably town", but if it's taken him a combined total of 5 minutes to make all his posts then this doesn't actually ring true. It's just a way of establishing some credit early because everyone thinks Palmar is just uninterested as scum. Anyway, Palmar could yet have just been coming into the thread having some "fun" or whatever, so we'll see what effort he wants to put into the game tomorrow. WTF? Someone tell me how this isn't scummy
It wasn't about the 180 per se, but the way he suddenly pulled out a quote from MARV (not palmar) from an earlier game after more that 12 hours of wanting to spamming the thread wanting to lynch Palmar.
Futhermore, look at his first response to me:
On February 08 2013 02:58 Oatsmaster wrote: JX, is there a scum motivation for my 180?
Cause the town motivation is to stop a mislynch.
"I was trying to save a townie! How is that scummy?!?!"
I caught you with your pants down man.
Oats has done nothing to contribute to town this game. All he did was:
1) Quarrel with mocsta 2) random 1 liner pressuring 3) Tunnel Palmar 4) magically digs out a quote to save Palmar 5) Taunting the guy who has points out he's scummy
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On February 08 2013 03:24 Mocsta wrote:JXI know people are off your back due to the 180' case on Oats. but I would like an answer to my last questions. Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 02:46 Mocsta wrote: JX I know your getting smashed from all angles about being scum.
Can you please summarise in dot point, what actions you have taken to establish your innocence this game?
In my opinion your posting much like your last scum game.
You can read the mafia QT
My first lines were: Going to be my normal self
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Btw I play some noob poker and I am aware of meta and using it to your advantage: Get a tight image at the table and you can start bluffing.
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ie I will always be aware of my meta and try to use it to my advantage, like the only thing I did well was trick Djo in that game where I was aware of my meta and played the same way. It's really like poker, play big and small hands the same way
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On February 08 2013 03:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Arnt Palmar's quote's somewhat biased in his favor JX?
And you still havent addressed how any of the 5 things you pointed out are scummy, its basically as summary of my filter. Well done.
the summary says you're doing absolutely nothing to figure out the game. You're yelling random crap.
You're scum.
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On February 08 2013 03:24 Mocsta wrote:JXI know people are off your back due to the 180' case on Oats. but I would like an answer to my last questions. Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 02:46 Mocsta wrote: JX I know your getting smashed from all angles about being scum.
Can you please summarise in dot point, what actions you have taken to establish your innocence this game?
In my opinion your posting much like your last scum game.
and I'm not going to give you any fucking bullet points because the only thing any of you had on me was that I wasn't around.
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Jsut got up.. Why do I have votes on 2 people in the vote count?
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I woke up an hour too late
scum has got to be among mocsta oats VE + someone who was defending me
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:X bye then sorry for the post
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GJ YAMATO
02-17-2013 02:15 AM ET (US) JieXian wrote: i havent been keeping up with the thread but as i stated earlier, it was
snarfs mrcc VE and prlprl
lz i disagree and I'll get to call you names post-game ok :D oh ya give me your scumlist lz and have it on record
Well at that time djo was missing so I couldn't get a read on him
02-17-2013 02:15 AM ET (US) Lazermonkey wrote: That's a deal jiexian, u scrubnub : D. Hey, JX! wassup with your reads? Are they unchanged?
1. Phagga 2. Prp 3. Debears/Jay. Leaning Jay atm tho.
VE cooould possibly be scum but not likely imo. Everyone else I'm quite sure is town.
Mocsta, your play was good. Only a crazy person would've thought you were scum. But I think your reads were kinda off I felt. Tho I guess we will find out in some time : ).
And debears is playing quite well also and he is one of the few making any sort if sense atm.
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Feeling so happy to have read it correctly so early in the obs thread
02-13-2013 03:09 AM ET (US) jiexian wrote: obv its mrcc ve snarf and yam/phagga
really? i have this idea in my head, mrcc busses snarf for town cred and to save VE (im positive VE is scum) and it's just the last guy im not sure of because I don't have a good meta on either yamato or phagga or prprplh
O WAIT it must be ve mrcc prphl I see a trend.
they didn't want to lynch me but they didnt bother stopping the wagon, voted for palmar but in general they have been quite spread out and never united in their decision. and VE with that random OMGUS on sloosh as an excuse not to vote for palmar.
it fits a mafia game plan. don't take the blame for the mislynch, lynch palmar
3rd one's conditional: save VE, if ve's scum - (he most probably is)
,... and Lz comes in later to rebut everything I said with some contradictory logic hahahaha
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btw I was sure that Oat didn't find the sudden 180 quote from Marv on Palmar by himself and jumped on him for it and I was right.........
but it came from Prom and not the QT........................
._________. so unfair
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So... there's something really wrong with me because everyone wants to lynch me D1 in every game......
Advice plszz
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