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On February 08 2013 10:04 Mocsta wrote:
I have some problems with quite a few ppl
including Djo lack of contributions for 24hrs
sl0osh looking like he getting modkilled
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jay started off well, but since has provided nothing new; when i think much has occured in the thread; im starting to see the elusiveness prplhz/Mr.CC were talking about.
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but this is all day2 discussion.
see you at the deadline
I'm trying to stay away from my overly spammy town meta. Where i post alot but not much of it has value. I rather not post alot but when i do post at least contribute something to the town.
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JX was town eh. But on the bright side palmar was right :D Even tho its moslty nonalignment indicative it's something.
Waiting for 3 candidates wonder who scum are gonna get :o
Also VE hasn't done much in the way of town. He has been pretty flip floppy. Also as CC noted Phagga has been pretty lurky
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In regards to the bold isnt that what everyone does?
In all seriousness there isn't much to say about JX. JX was lurking hard and didn't contribute anything till some pressure was on him and even then he didn't produce much. I was having second thoughts about him per palmars post but no one wanted to lynch prplhz.
I dont care if i bring your comments on Oats back to the limelight. If I think something you did was questionable I will call it out. You stated something I didn't agree with so I said as much.
And are you fucking kidding me with this consolidation bit. Ofc we have to consolidate as town. If we don't it gives mafia more leeway to swing the vote. Also you your self were asking people to consolidate on JX so how is what you say even make sense.
On February 08 2013 13:29 Mocsta wrote:
I have had a re-read of Vers guide, and starting to look for specific things in play.
Jay, you are pinging the shit out of my scum-dar.
In a nutshell your filter contains
- No useful contributions, other than you following a curiosity on RNG (which was never taking off)
- You were a proponent of bringing back into the limelight my comments to Oats, when i already gave my 2cents.
- You admit to having no contributions to add to town (as your explanation on the lack of posts)
- You was the first people to lead the JX lynch; before anything was concrete
And to top it off
- Your last post reads as if you dont give a shit a townie just flipped. You instantly move on, thinking about scum nominations already. Its like you fucked him in a one night stand and then kicked him out and didnt even call a taxi.
Even when prplhz is questioning you; you respond meekly, I believe with the intention to be ignored.
It worked.
Whilst this occured you were subtly asking everyone to consolidate on JX; but never contributed with serious thought on why he was the best candidate. This reeks to manipulation and scum play.
Scummy townies often say things that are so stupid/wrong its easy to think they are trying to mislead as town.
Your filter shows no signs of unintentional misleading, rather, when pressuring Jay you are EXTREMELY specific.
Thus, for me, I see intentional play to drive your agenda:
i.e.push JX as lynch candidate and remain low by making calculated decisions to show interest and responding methodically to blend in.
@all
Please share your thoughts on the above; do you see JayBrundage play as a bad townie?
Also why do you ask if im a bad townie. Why not just ask if people think I'm scum?
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I fail to see anything in your response that indicates im scum.
The mislynch occurred cause JX was lurking hard till pressure was applied to him. And he didn't respond in a townie way. I once heard a good town player say. That for the day one lynch the only thing you need to do as town is to make sure you aren't the jackass that gets lynched. You usually have to play badly for it to happen.
Also yes I prefered JX to die over Palmar wasn't that clear. Your issue with consolidation isn't a real issue. It was the end of the day and I asked people to consolidate.
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On February 08 2013 15:23 yamato77 wrote:
Seems Sloosh agrees with me, good stuff.
Let's all afk until the day post and leave mafia to ruminate in silence.
This is a terrible idea. You should never do this town your only cutting off discussion. Keep pressuring your scum reads. Keep pushing for lynch who you think will flip and hopefully obtain better reads from there content.
@Mocsta
For my top scum read I don't have one atm. I think Djo hasn't dont much still. But not sure on his alignment.
For my top town meh its mostly nulls.
I realize these are pretty shitty answers. But i wont pull answers out my ass either. When I have a read on someone I'll come out and present a case/pressure them.
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On February 08 2013 15:57 yamato77 wrote:
Discussion about reads actually hurts town right now, don't you understand that?
If you're just dying to know what I think, sit on this:
Why are you so concerned with what I'm doing with my reads when you don't have any to talk about?
There's plenty of information on the table to make some decent reads right now. The fact that you have none, not even a town read, is disturbing.
I don't see discussion hurting town like ever in mafia. And i wasn't specifically calling you out I was saying the town in general.
Unless Palmar disagree's with me I stick to my opinion.
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Its ok Mocsta. Im meh town at best. But on the bright side its better then that scummy fucker we should lynch that turns up to be town XD
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On February 08 2013 23:43 Mocsta wrote:
hmm. to be frank
i havent made up my mind with you, im trying to read your town games to see why you said your a scummy-town.
I just wanted feedback on my points.
To give you some quick context. I am the best mislynch na. I used to get lynched about 90 percent of my games, though I have improved a bit cause people were getting used to my meta aka being scummy as fuck as town.
I usually lurk hard as scum and get spammy as town. But this game I don't wanna get overly spammy as it makes me look scummy lol.
Questions?
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On February 08 2013 23:50 Mocsta wrote:
I still need to read the games to get a feel, but noted you're making a conscious shift.
Theory craft
With JX 3 things happened
(1) People called him scummy
(2) People defended him as lynch bait
(3) People did not comment.
If we were going to narrow down scum candidates by whether they did 1,2 or 3; which category do you think will have the highest chance of finding a scum?
I noticed that his lack of posts and lack of content made him quote scummy.
@Oats I hate giving reads when I dont have anything to back them up. So ill save it for now.
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Ok given the newest post. I find it unlikely that mafia would put anyone up for today. I find it odd that they put up slOosh. Given that he he hasn't been much of a thread presense as he was afk most of the end of the day.
Mocsta I have a town read on from the way he's trying to lead discussion and making pushes and trying to facilitate town discussion. I think we should keep him.
Palmar is the wild card. He was almost killed yesterday. But the lynch didn't happen because he can be such a strong town player if he puts his mind on it. The question is if he's scum and people deflected the lynch off of him. And now mafia are WIFOM with giving us the oppurtinuty to lynch him today. Or if he really is town and mafia want him gone. I want to see solid content from him today. Or my mind can change on him.
SlOosh has kinda just been here. He has put up occasionally reads. But the fact that he was afk the latter half of the day has really hurt his contribution. I feel like he's for sure town and mafia just want to get rid of him knowing he can be a good town force later on.
What do you guys think.
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I'm fairly confident that we have three townies up for lynch atm. Palmar's last post reeked of genuineness.
I think that Palmar's idea about RNGing the vote has some good points behind it. Then Mafia would be alot more hesitant to throw there towniest looking scum and give him some town cred. Would mafia risk it on a 33 percent chance of getting away with it. I don't know. It's something to think about.
Also Phagga doesn't look good as others have pointed out.
But also has anyone else noticed that Djo has more or less dropped of the earth activity wise?
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On February 10 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 06:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
sry phone posting.... both candidates agree with me. sloosh made a case on phagga. Itsno if he agrees, its if he can back it up well. This lynch for me is predicated on who is going to make the most sense. sloosh and palmar seem to have a similar reads as i do. If palmar isnt going to justify substantially, i dont want him around. sloosh has proven moreso that hes A). town and B) cares and will analyze posts and behavior. currently hes more beneficial to towb. depends on palmars next promised post. Yeah okay, I missed that part about phagga. Then yeah, we're both in agreement. I'm not sure I agree where phagga is concerned, but we'll deal with that tomorrow. Today I'd like more input from the lynch candidates and everyone's thoughts on who they want to lynch today.
Meh Focusing on the Nominees isn't the best plan. As they are likely all town. It is all a matter of preference in who you think will be the most likely to be least useful to town.
We should keep writing case's and showing who we think is scum. I am going to check out prplhz again he kinda skimmed away on meta reads while not really doing anything of use to town.
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I would actually gladly lynch VE based on what SlOosh said and his responses
On February 10 2013 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wanted to discuss it with CHEESE tomorrow slOosh. I'm perfectly willing to discuss him with you today. -.-
On February 10 2013 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
That is, unless you just wanna talk to Palmar about it. I'll gladly just let you twist my intentions and lynch you for it later. <3
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@Palmar Eh kinda sucks when you join in a game and your not motivated enough to actually try to play it. Why join in the first place then?
If you give your updated reads and tell who you think is scum that would be awesome.
Also I believe that your town casue of your posting and sincerity. But if you don't want to actually play then replace out or something. Or we can just lynch you if you have no interest in playing. I think your a very strong townie but you said it your self to play the game of mafia well you need to invest time into it. If you dont wanna do that then i think it might be better to keep Mocsta or SlOosh that have showed that they actually want to play this game.
Palmar I will change my vote for you but if you change your mind and decide to play then I will do my best to change the direction of the lynch. The balls in your court.
##Unvote
##Vote Palmar
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I would also like everyones thoughts on lynching VE tmw
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On February 10 2013 12:48 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2013 12:39 jaybrundage wrote:
I would also like everyones thoughts on lynching VE tmw Are you preferring VE over phagga, (i.e is VE your best scum read) or just raising interest in general?
I have a pool of players that I would be interested in lynching that are on mah list.
Currently both are completely lynchable for me. (Its like lunchables but more bloody and delicious!)
I usually have decent scum reads but getting the town to follow me can be hard. So I occasionally just sheep on a town read I have and try to follow thru with a lynch that I agree with. I used to do this alot with Palmar but he hasn't been very active this game : (
But Mocsta you didn't really give your opinions on the VE lynch are you just going after phagga or does VE appeal to you as well?
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Palmar you never answered my question. Do you want to play this game. If you actually wanna play I think town would be fine lynching Mocsta or SlOosh instead. But the questions remains do you want to play?
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@Phagga I don't have solid reasons behind my pool of players that are lynchable.
Alot of it is gut reads or people that haven't looked townie at all. So therefore ill hold on to them as they change occasionally.
I will have to do some rereading tmw. But i will say that I agree alot with Palmar's reads.
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