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Mr. Cheesecake
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385389 in that newbie I was doc, he was scum. Lynched his face into the ground D1 for his behavior, flipping reads, etc. He is more docile this game with actually some logical thought process behind his posts. Not the best lynch for today by far. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Mr. Cheesecake
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If you're referring to that 4-point post thing, it wasn't really justified. You basically said exactly what he's done this game and said that he wasn't do anything.. . On February 08 2013 02:00 JieXian wrote: I have 2 conflicting reasons for why Oats is town. No, you don't? Oats is being tame this game I said. Mocsta just said he's aggressive as scum. IE not aggressive as town (or at least more level-headed, logical). | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:04 JieXian wrote: CC said he's docile You're saying he didn't back down = not docile ?? This is pretty spammy and pointless, stop it. We both have reasons for thinking Oats is town. Not backing down doesn't imply aggressiveness imo, just conviction. One can be tame with conviction. Alright, it's a matter of opinion either way via meta. What you think of snarfs JX? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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On February 08 2013 02:08 Mocsta wrote: *Facepalm* Sorry I didnt realise in vet world, finishing with "scum scum scum" was a killing blow to get votes. Look will read this in detail, but so far, I didnt see any quotes from this game. Seems like you did a pure meta read; right now, pretty disappointed I had to wait for this. ^This. I see no reason to change my vote off of you. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
[QUOTE]On February 08 2013 02:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 02:04 JieXian wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 02:01 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 02:00 JieXian wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 01:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: JX idk what you want me to justify so much. My townie meta read on Oats? [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385389]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385389[/url] in that newbie I was doc, he was scum. Lynched his face into the ground D1 for his behavior, flipping reads, etc. He is more docile this game with actually some logical thought process behind his posts. Not the best lynch for today by far. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 01:49 Mocsta wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 01:38 JieXian wrote: [QUOTE]On February 08 2013 01:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: JX, Oatsmaster is somewhat of a difficult guy to read from a normal standpoint. I've played with him when he was 'obv scum', but turned out to be town. I've also caught him as scum D1. Call it a gut feeling, but I can't identify a decently scummy part of his play. If he's really red, I'll be able to understand him in the grand scheme of things later. Def. not scum to me right now. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] It's a personal meta read. I don't agree with others when they use them, and I don't expect you to agree with me on the fact. It's a gut feeling, and my gut tends to be correct with reads like this. His interaction with Mocsta left me feeling Oats townier than Mocsta in general. Oats is at least null leaning townzorz for me. [/QUOTE] Oats is definitely town. As scum he is aggressive but backs down and changes tune when shit hits the fan. Hes not doing that this game.Having re-read that part of the game we were feuding, I can now see i took the interactions more personal than him, but even with my "low blows" he didnt back down. In my matrix I have two confirmed town. me and him. [/QUOTE] I have 2 conflicting reasons for why Oats is town.[/QUOTE] How? I said as scum he is aggressive and then said "hes not doing that this game" CC said "hes more docile = less aggressive" Fail. Try again please.[/QUOTE] CC said he's docile You're saying he didn't back down = not docile ??[/QUOTE] This is pretty spammy and pointless, stop it. We both have reasons for thinking Oats is town. Not backing down doesn't imply aggressiveness imo, just conviction. One can be tame with conviction. Alright, it's a matter of opinion either way via meta. What you think of snarfs JX? [/QUOTE] I can't rationalise with the word "tame conviction" but I read the game you've linked me and I do see a difference. And I get why you 2 had conflicting reasons, because Oats was basically being Vivax in that game while he was all "I'm shy" in LIX, where Mocsta was. In other words, you 2 need to realise that Oats isn't a 1 dimensional guy who plays the same way.[/QUOTE] Okay. You also need to realize that it's a gut feeling and he's not like confirmed townie status or something. It's just an initial D1 read and not the end all decision. This discussion is fairly pointless and needs to end right now. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Okay. You also need to realize that it's a gut feeling and he's not like confirmed townie status or something. It's just an initial D1 read and not the end all decision. This discussion is fairly pointless and needs to end right now. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: JieXian You ask why? Cause he sheeped onto Palmer. What else was he supposed to do, realistically? Anyone in that position would vote for Snarfs or Palmar. Oats this is actually a bad vote. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote: No CC, the bandwagon was shifting in Palmar's favour at that point and of course he wants to jump on and lynch arguably the strongest town player here How do you even know he's town? Everybody, regardless of role, just wants to not get lynched. He hops on the most popular bandwagon in order to not get lynched. Lynching a town Palmar is just a bi-product if he's scum. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:34 phagga wrote: At everyone voting Palmar so far, go have a look at Death note Mafia (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625). Palmar was trolly/lurkish D1 and was misslynched D1 with the exact same arguments as this game. I know He could be scum, but I feel that lynch is much more volatile than JX, of who I feel sure he will flip scum. Seems like a shiton of meta reads going down this game, myself included in this one. I think we should start leaning towards analyzing in-game behavior more. Phagga, you still irk me as being paranoid as all hell and now you're lurking like a boss. Since you decided to pop in here to defend Palmar, what say you to a Snarfs lynch? Set on JX? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah, I think he is town, but my issues with him can be brought up post game. I didnt read that before I wanted to lynch Palmar. The scummy thing about his vote, is that he didnt vote the guy with the most votes for the longest, like Slark, who is scummy, he voted the for the lynch that was fast becoming a bandwagon. So it seems like he is trying to bandwagon Palmar out of this game. Which is scummy I guess so. But It seems like more people want to lynch Palmar than Snarfs. Either way I think it's a null tell. If I'm in his position, I totally vote Palmar regardless of my alignment. Anywho, VE you has a case on you bro! I want to hear your response. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:51 phagga wrote: Dude I wrote i am on the train, how about you read my posts? Yes, set on jx. My point was more about scum abusing palmars meta, his behaviour so far is just not alignement-indicative, and he is probably the only one that I would let get away with it. Snarf I feel unsure about, have to read up fully on his case on VE. I currently think he might be right about VE, so I do not want to lynch him You are coming off seriously paranoid... even moreso than before. =\ Calm down. I was only asking if you would consider Snarfs because I haven't seen you mention him as of late. Just because you're on the train doesn't mean you can't switch. I look forward to your analysis of VE, sir. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:54 JieXian wrote: Oats Wants to lynch Palmar: But suddenly makes a U turn and magically digs out a quote from Marv. I have no idea how someone could have not known that that quote existed earlier for quoting it now. WTF? Someone tell me how this isn't scummy You should have posted this earlier. Oats, why that 180 on Yamato bro? (I mean, Palmar  ) | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
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I'll admit I've been a bit confirmation biased of you since the start. You're starting to come full circle on this VE thing, this part in particular: "First of all, notice how he starts "I think Snarfs might well be scum. So here's a little push in his direction, care of the guy who isn't pushing anyone." He's not aggressive, he's not interested." I still hate the fact that you've been a neutral, tunneling PoS so far, but at least you're doing something constructive. On February 08 2013 03:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Still no quotes from this game explaining your viewpoint. Just vague meta references and now you're throwing in non-alignment indicative bullshit. ##Unvote: prplhz ##Vote: Snarfs WOOOWOOOOOOOOO This is the lynch guys, all aboard. DAT OMGUS VOTE? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I'm apprehensive about keeping my vote on Snarfs: I think that VE's vote was lulzy and I need to consider my propensity for confirmation bias (See: Witchcraft). | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 03:06 prplhz wrote: That marvellosity quote is like a month old. If you already knew all that then why did you go for Palmar in the first place? Prplhz, you pop in here to fling shit at Oats now? Where were you before this? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Who are you voting, anyway? Idk your stance on anybody really. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
God, this is a shitfest right now. I gotta think about this collectively. Going to work soon will try to phonepost on break. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On February 08 2013 03:16 prplhz wrote: I'm not sure. I want to lynch jaybrundage but no one else likes that lynch. I want to lynch Palmar but I see no reason to do it right now when we might as well just do it later. I actually like Snarfs case on VisceraEyes. Can you point me in the direction of a case on Jay? How do you feel of him personally? He's been fairly elusive to me. Only thing he's done is call out Djo for obvious reasons from what I remember. | ||
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