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On February 04 2013 22:11 Promethelax wrote:
oh, that is what you thought was a good pick up? We need to talk post game. The fact that vivax had a derp and forgot who you were is one thing. Quite another that he is sure the game will continue after this lynch.
[fluff]
I forgot to add your quote where you said I could be SK,but yeah, sounds like you got what i meant.
& Im all ears for post-game chat. Hopefully I am applying myself differently than to when you coached me.
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LOl. didnt think of that. im not used to living end game 
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*sigh* im reverting back to old habits, posting the first thing on my mind.
Need to stop.
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[QUOTE]On February 04 2013 23:18 Promethelax wrote:
Is Vivax referring to an after this lynch time a scum claim? [quote]
I interpreted as, Vivax believes SK exists, so when scum JX is lynched, game is not concluded.
[quote]multiple one-shot cops are possible. According to Toad. [/QUOTE]
does not change the fact that the behaviour does not meet the role.
As I stated earlier to JX, he had many chances to claim (essentially since Day 2), and was requested directly by Djo and EZ; he chose not to.
This is exacerbated when Sharrant is coming under heat throughout Day2 and Night2; you (Prom) even directly mention a vig choice between Yamato/Sharrant.
He keeps his mouth shut.
Yes the dual one-shot cop is possible; but it certainly did not role that way this game.
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On February 04 2013 23:18 Promethelax wrote:
Is Vivax referring to an after this lynch time a scum claim?
I interpreted as, Vivax believes SK exists, so when scum JX is lynched, game is not concluded.
multiple one-shot cops are possible. According to Toad.
does not change the fact that the behaviour does not meet the role.
As I stated earlier to JX, he had many chances to claim (essentially since Day 2), and was requested directly by Djo and EZ; he chose not to.
This is exacerbated when Sharrant is coming under heat throughout Day2 and Night2; you (Prom) even directly mention a vig choice between Yamato/Sharrant.
He keeps his mouth shut.
Yes the dual one-shot cop is possible; but it certainly did not role that way this game.
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*The only defense I have for JX cop claim*
is Spaghetticus from Newbie 34; he checked zarepath and still included him in his lynch target to try and hide that he was a cop.
But then this is moot due to one-shot nature. He is now a VT; so no reason to hide the claim; and he certainly didnt lure out a RB via pretending to be multi-shot cop (a la Vivax).
So this defense doesnt apply and all past points remain. He can not be cop.
I know im beating the same bush, but figured its good practice for critical thinking.
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Looks like we sticking with 48hr cycle.
*Sigh*
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On February 05 2013 00:35 JieXian wrote:
(1) Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"
(2) Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible.
(1) Therein lies the problem. Who is scum to you JX? Your filter has a marked lack of actual scum hunting; you thrown iamp name in recently, based on what? He was your only confirmed town, and now you are recommending him for lynch? On what grounds?
Your good mate Toad, says, early game, dont discuss town reads. For mafia, they know the town reads and dont have to lie - its easy; its much harder for mafia to build a case against someone they know is town.
So yes, you didn't say Sharrant is scum; but you stood up for him, and then suggested you would be comfortable with his lynch due to his low page filter count. Thats not normal for a cop check.
(2) Counter claim has already been discussed in subequent posts (i.e. You are a VT, and can confirm a townie to prevent their mislynch, or mis-vig.... if you actually checked Sharrant and cleared him.. Prome coulda used the bullet on Yamato. Why did this situation NOT occur?
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On February 05 2013 00:39 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 19:57 Mocsta wrote:Seriously JieXian, your not doing yourself any favours. On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.
& now On February 04 2013 19:41 JieXian wrote:
I want to lynch iamp today. Quite a stark change in read. How did this transition occur? You posted a whole lot of stuff splashing doubt on him. I wanted to lynch you after yamato but I changed my mind.
LOL.. i see.
Iamp is on the money. you defend, but suggest noone else, cant even mount a case on iamp yourself.
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How did that change your mind.
I didnt accuse iamp of anything. I asked you to think about it and share your thoughts.
You have not.
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On February 05 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:Now I haven't filter dived JX yet (at work, so will have to do it tonight); but, I had some problems with what he wrote. Specifically if he was 1-shot cop that already used power, he is now a VT (a la Vivax); there is nothing to hide from claiming (esp. when requested by EZ) and later again by Djo. Also On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK
The phrasing of this is completely off. Town dont want a chance to test luck. They want to prove innocence.(e.g. look at my reaction when Djo trying to confirm me via setup speculation; "Thanks but no thanks"). This to me just stinks of scum. So im sticking with JX being scum for this lynch. If SK is present deal with it Day5. ##Vote: JieXian dude I was explaining why I had more to gain as scum if I had claimed VT........
I dont think claiming VT has anything to do with that post. its targeting two specific issue, neither of which explains why you did not claimed VT.
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On February 05 2013 01:26 JieXian wrote:Let me bold the correct part: Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK
I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)
Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later. Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.
Just when I was starting to feel better about him too. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:so yeah GG y u no concede ? The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys 
WOW.. that changes EVERYTHING
##Unvote: JieXian
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Gg guys. Pleasant win to wake up to.
JX vt claim wouldnt have helped with me. The only reason i tossed iamp into the equation was to promote some discussion. I was sold on u when we had the logic debate before yamato was lynched. I just needed to make sure i didnt tunnel.
Good effort toughing it out. Takes guts
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hmmm not sure what to do in the future.
I noticed Prom/iamp were just bagging you out straight.
I was talking to you cos i was trying to find more and more stuff for you to unravel yourself with; in hindsight, it was incriminating enough, perhaps if i just said. vote. your scum, may have conceded earlier.
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heheh JieXian, us +8 GMT'ers gotta stick together !!
Im happy I could aid towns scum hunt then
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All good xsksc.
When i signed up i think the lynch was brtween yam and me/you.
I think i established myself pretty quick so we could consolidate on yam. Obv the check helped.
Hopefully u sign for the next one.
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