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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 04:24 GMT
#332
On January 26 2013 13:19 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:12 Djodref wrote:
On January 26 2013 12:50 xsksc wrote:
On January 26 2013 12:42 Djodref wrote:
On January 26 2013 12:10 xsksc wrote:
On January 26 2013 11:54 Djodref wrote:
For me a case is one big constructed post summing everything up, with strong points. I don't think Vivax points were very strong, and I wouldn't call it a case.
Do you have any player you are suspicious on so far ?

#1 A case is a case, doesn't matter how strong it is.
#2 Thrawn has done nothing useful. One comment about something he didn't like and a joke. That's it, pretty suspicious stuff and I hope he starts posting some more substance when he's on next.

Also - your arguments with me over semantics, why? I mean, what's the point? I'd clarified what I meant by odd to Hapa already, and yet you still thought it necessary to point out. I find it hard to believe you didn't know what I meant by "case", and it seems a very small thing to pick a fight over.


I wasn't speaking about the odd "thing", I was speaking about the fact that you consider the few weak posts Vivax made against you "cases". Your posture is too defensive to my liking.

Like, this is what I don't understand here. What is the problem with the word case? If I use the word "attacks" or "list of reasons hes voting me for", would you be happier?


Attacks would have been better
There is no case against you.

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On January 26 2013 11:25 xsksc wrote:
I don't really feel inclined to spend the evening repeating myself

+ Show Spoiler +
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Case : A set of reasons or supporting facts; an argument.
Why. Does. It. Matter? Can you actually answer me that?


Because it seems like you take seriously Vivax accusations against you when they are weak.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 04:26 GMT
#333
Also you need to answer my previous question about Vivax games.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 04:36 GMT
#335
On January 26 2013 13:30 xsksc wrote:
Wait, what? I know they are weak. That doesn't suddenly change the definition of it. I acknowledge here that it's poorly thought out.
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On January 26 2013 11:41 xsksc wrote:
He jumped right in and started making cases/pressuring his read, he looks like he doesn't care if he's in the spotlight. Seems fairly townie to me. In fact, I don't think scum would make such a poorly thought out case that fast in the game, it's bound to draw unwanted attention.

Why does a case stop being a case when it's weak? That's completely devoid of logic. Are you saying it's only a case when it has merit? Wtf, lol.


Ok, let's not argue about semantics anymore. They were weak attacks, and the fact that you are referencing them as a case has worried me. Let's drop this point for now.
What about previous Vivax games ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 04:41 GMT
#337
On January 26 2013 13:39 xsksc wrote:
Yes, I skim-read I can't believe it's not themed mini. He got lynched day1 but this was in July so there's a good chance he's a lot better by now. Going to give lviii a read if I have time later. I'm basing my leaning-town read on him on the events that happened so far this game though - not on meta.


Why did you ask for his previous town games then ?
Was your previous argument to derive a town read on Vivax not already valid at that point ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 04:58 GMT
#343
On January 26 2013 13:55 Hapahauli wrote:
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On January 26 2013 13:41 xsksc wrote:
Hapa, you still here?
What do you think of Djodref?


Nothing significant with Djo yet. His suspicions on you are silly, but that's all I've gathered so far.



Come on, you didn't like the very post I didn't like. You are being silly right now
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:04 GMT
#345
On January 26 2013 13:42 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:41 Djodref wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:39 xsksc wrote:
Yes, I skim-read I can't believe it's not themed mini. He got lynched day1 but this was in July so there's a good chance he's a lot better by now. Going to give lviii a read if I have time later. I'm basing my leaning-town read on him on the events that happened so far this game though - not on meta.


Why did you ask for his previous town games then ?
Was your previous argument to derive a town read on Vivax not already valid at that point ?

Because I heard people talking about his "style" or whatever and I wanted to check out what he's known for. Doesn't hurt to get a little background info on players I haven't met before.


Ok, fair enough. I'll drop you for now ^^
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:11 GMT
#350
On January 26 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCUM SLIPS ARE REAL! THEY'RE REAL IAM


@ VE

What do you make of iamp, Hapa and Prome wrt the "scumslip” ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:14 GMT
#353
On January 26 2013 14:11 Promethelax wrote:
I'm at work. Which makes things hard, though I guess I'm not really an American.

Hapa, I figured you were good enough to figure it out, the only times you've called me scum when we were both town was in newbies. In chrono you and I omgus'd a lot but I don't feel like you ever seriously thought I was scum. Lets just say that I'm confident that you know me well enough to figure it out. You said yourself you'd never have voted me I. Our most recent game if you were town.

Djo, who are you actually suspicious of? Or is this weird stuff with xsksc actually you thinking he is scummy?

Thrawn, I want to hear more from you. You and Marv have both been oddly quiet, Marv I want more from you too.


@ Prom

I think I went overboard with xsksc. His reactions have been fine and I didn't find anything else in his filter.
I'm concerned the most by thrawn inactivity right now.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:22 GMT
#356
On January 26 2013 14:18 Promethelax wrote:
Which of the active players are you worried about being scum?


You mean active right now ?
I'm not worried about you. I'm not worried about xsksc anymore. I'll check Hapa later.

For the rest, I think VE could be scum. And thrawn of course.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:24 GMT
#358
On January 26 2013 14:18 Promethelax wrote:
JX also hasn't posted and its afternoon for the little spam monster.

Ghost is American and I dunno where the smurf is from for real.

I honestly doubt sharrent will even post, I had to replace for him in LC and I doubt things have changed. We will see though.

I too am worried by Tfunk. I look forward to something from him,
.


Jx was much less spammy in LIX and he is a lynch bait anyway. I'll be worried if I don't find him scummy
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:28 GMT
#359
On January 26 2013 09:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here...was playing GoMe

I'm town HURRAY!

Marv Miller?

:/


This post and this post also
On January 26 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCUM SLIPS ARE REAL! THEY'RE REAL IAM


They remind me of Hero Mini Mafia.
I'm on phone now but I'll try to find the quotes later.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:30 GMT
#362
On January 26 2013 14:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:11 Promethelax wrote:
...
Hapa, I figured you were good enough to figure it out, the only times you've called me scum when we were both town was in newbies. In chrono you and I omgus'd a lot but I don't feel like you ever seriously thought I was scum. Lets just say that I'm confident that you know me well enough to figure it out. You said yourself you'd never have voted me I. Our most recent game if you were town.
...


I called you scum for like half of the game in CT mafia.


So ? What do you make of his apparent confidence now ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:33 GMT
#363
On January 26 2013 14:30 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:18 Promethelax wrote:
Which of the active players are you worried about being scum?

Djodref but that's just a gut read and I have nothing solid. I like what I've seen from Hapa atm.


Do you mind expanding on your gut read ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 05:47 GMT
#365
On January 26 2013 14:36 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:33 Djodref wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:30 xsksc wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:18 Promethelax wrote:
Which of the active players are you worried about being scum?

Djodref but that's just a gut read and I have nothing solid. I like what I've seen from Hapa atm.


Do you mind expanding on your gut read ?

I said I have nothing solid, its just a gut reaction to your posting so far.


It is surely because I'm French then
I usually get this kind of reaction the first time.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 09:41 GMT
#372
]@ JieXian[/b]

If you know that marv is a good mafia player, why do you think he would need to claim miler as mafia ?
Why would he take this risk when he is good wnough for not taking it. He is not confirmed town but I don't thi.k we should concentrate on this claim too much, rather analizing his play for what it is.

Do you have any other thoughts to share ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 09:43 GMT
#373
On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so far I think iamp is the scummiest. Earlier he asked me if I was serious about my accusation of thrawn. Looking back I noticed this in his filter.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 09:47 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax

was this a serious vote because if it is very weak

Vivax been very posty after having an avenue to not be with his pre game post.
I want to know if you actually think vivax is mafia when you get back.


Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:
your vote on vivax serious prom?


In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out:

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 11:28 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp do you have any opinions on what's going on or do you plan to uselessly ask people if "they're serious" all game?

Well if i told you how i think he would answer with regards to his alignment it would kind of defeat the purpose.


It would kind of at that.

##Vote: iamperfection


So iamp is scum because he asks people if their votes are serious ?
Do you have other points speaking against iamp ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 10:37 GMT
#375
On January 26 2013 19:20 Promethelax wrote:
Djo, I think you missed the point of what VE was saying. Imp both 'pressured' me and gave me the answer to his pressure in the same post. VE says that there is no town motivation for doing so. Can you confirm I read that right VE?

Also, JX appeared, said a lot of fluff and vanished. Congratulations JX. you earned yourself a medal. ## unvote. ##vote: JX


Does it make iamp scum in your eyes ? Or at least the scummiest in the thread ?
I'll wait for JieXian to return before commenting on your last vote.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 11:36 GMT
#381
On January 26 2013 20:04 Promethelax wrote:
obviously that is assuming that marv is town, but we have no real reason to doubt that as of yet.


Why so ?
Marv is fucking inactive right now. He has done nothing else except claiming miller, so I understand JieXian saying that we shouldn't give him a free pass. From my point of view, the claim makes him more town than scum, but it may not be the case for everyone here.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 11:38 GMT
#382
Anyway, I wanted to ask you what you think about VE.
Prome and JieXian, if you are around, I want to know what you think about VE so far, especially his entrance on the thread and his case and vote against iamp.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 26 2013 14:59 GMT
#392
On January 26 2013 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
That could be potentially intresting.

whomever replaces I want to know if your a miller or not.


Hey !

what do you think of VE ?
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