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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 13:39 GMT
#2068
On February 02 2013 22:23 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 22:01 Vivax wrote:
@ Iamp

Here's the case: I will vote for you if Djo is right. What you gonna do about it?

Probally call you a retard


So, who is yamato scumbuddy according to you ?
I'm treating yamato as confirmed scum now that he has clearly shown that he has no interest in this game anymore.

@ JieXian

I need your role. Please claim !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 14:01 GMT
#2070
On February 02 2013 22:44 iamperfection wrote:
Has to be jx if everyone is telling the truth about claims.


well, only Vivax could be lying at this point... Prome and me are not lying at 100%, at least regarding our ability to kill, and I think we are both town vigs.
But Vivax being one-shot cop makes sense setup-wise. So I really trust his claim. I still need JX's claim though...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 16:23 GMT
#2073
On February 03 2013 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
VE-VE-VE-VOTECOUNT:

yamato77 ( 5 ): Djodref, JieXian, Promethelax, Mocsta, Vivax, JieXian

With 8 people alive it takes 5 to lynch someone.


Aren't we only 7 ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 16:24 GMT
#2074
On February 03 2013 00:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 21:33 iamperfection wrote:
Im vt

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 00:05 iamperfection wrote:
i can do whatever i want prom I'm the nerfed innocent child remember,


Can someone fill me on in the joke here? Whats a nerfed IC?

Isnt IC miller?


It's a joke...
Iamp looks so much town when he is town that he could be considered as an IC
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 21:23 GMT
#2090
On February 03 2013 04:38 iamperfection wrote:
Guess we got one


Don't forget to vote the scum
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 21:56 GMT
#2094
On February 03 2013 06:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 06:23 Djodref wrote:
On February 03 2013 04:38 iamperfection wrote:
Guess we got one


Don't forget to vote the scum

I am?


On February 03 2013 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
VE-VE-VE-VOTECOUNT:

yamato77 ( 5 ): Djodref, JieXian, Promethelax, Mocsta, Vivax, JieXian

With 7 people alive it takes 4 to lynch someone.


Sorry, Oats has got me fooled >.<
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 02 2013 22:06 GMT
#2095
On February 03 2013 06:25 Promethelax wrote:
Djo, I know you looked at set-up. Tell me why I know what I know.


You are working under the assumption that we need 2 V's only for two one-shot vigs. This is something we don't know for sure. Anyway, let me tell you where I am.

With the RB flip, I know that we have a minimum of 3 slots for the letters determining the blues. That makes Vivax's claim confirmed by the setup (now that we know that yamato is scum). We cannot trust at 100% each other Vig's claims, but Vivax is confirmed one-shot cop (if he wasn't town enough).
To have RB+GF, there is at least 5 slots of letters for the blues. We don't have five letters right now, except if JX claims full cop (but maybe three V letters for two single-shot vigs, I dunno). So there is no GF. So the check on Mocsta is legit.

But Mocsta could be SK with the option to appear green to the DT's checks (with the setup VVVCTTT). I don't think you are SK, and I'm not one. But one of the remaining VT guys could be one (except Vivax).
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 03 2013 05:01 GMT
#2107
On February 03 2013 10:45 Mocsta wrote:
Good job guys with Yam all;

Any point declaring DAy4 lynch candidates? or just wait and see if SK arises, and trust whoever is left can figure out the perfect plan?


I'll keep everything related to the setup and plans for just before the deadline ^^
But it feels good to lynch mafia

I recommend you to read the whole thread again to figure out who is the last mafia.

@ JieXian

We still need your claim !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 03 2013 05:03 GMT
#2108
On February 03 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote:
nerfed town.. ahh got you.

translation:

Mocsta = replacement; Im an instant nerf in any game


Don't worry, he nerfed scum by replacing marv by yamato
I'm going to try to find the last scum now !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 03 2013 11:54 GMT
#2111
On February 03 2013 19:37 Promethelax wrote:
Pretty sure mafia set up was 2goon and RB.
Last scum probably JX, 26 hours gone too long for town.
I expect to die tonight.
EZ: how you like it? You pushed a town lynch while I pushed scum lynch. Boom!
If I can ill try to find serial killer tomorro, if there is one its the only way we could lose.

Vivax, I wanna know what you think of things.


I really want JieXian to claim his role. He has been too much inactive since we decided to get rid of yamato.
What do you think about Toad latest comment (town being nerfed) ?
Why do you expect to die, just out of curiosity ?

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 03 2013 16:03 GMT
#2119
On February 04 2013 00:06 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 23:32 Vivax wrote:
They got that through setup at some Point I think. 2 vigs + DT + RB etc.

I just hope that there isn't a fourth mafia as "nerf" for town.

shush the adults are talking.

I want prom and djo to present how they came to the conclusion of what setup we are in.

Don't leave any stone unturned


I don't think I can wake up on time tomorrow so I'm going to lay down what I know here.

First of all, I'd like to say that I was certainly wrong about you. I really don't think you are scum anymore. You could have played the game of your life though

Setup
Okay, we are sure that town have some blue roles, and we can guess how many we have left given the town flips and the mafia flips. Town has a minimum of 3 single-shot roles given that a scum RB has flipped. For the moment, only VTs have flipped. Among the remaining players, we have three role claims, and an interrogation mark for JieXian (which is the scummiest among us by the way). That makes Vivax, Prom and me almost confirmed town (almost because we are missing JieXian claim). It is important that you should understand that neither Prom nor me are possible SK. If you have some doubts about Prome, just check how he is reacting to my claim. It fits the behavior of a town Vigilante.
If you doubt me, please understand that I was derping in the beginning if this game because I thought I could easily become confirmed town with my claim, and that's why I was eager to claim.

Now, we don't know how Toad nerfed the setup. I think it is in relation with the vigilante role. We can assume that all vigilantes are nerfed to single-shot vigilante. In this case, we could be in these setups.

VVVCTTT => 2 goon, 1 scum RB, 1 SK. The SK could be Mocsta, JieXian or Iamp. The last scum is not Mocsta for sure.

VVVVCTT => 1 goon, 1 scum RB, 1 GF. The last scum could be Moscta, JieXian or Iamp.

As we don't know how Toad modified the setup, we must be carefull to not rely on it to solve this game. We have to kill the last scum tomorrow (i.e. JieXian or Mocsta) and then take care of a Sk if there is one.
I don't think that we have a SK because there is no SK kills yet. But he could have waited for his hour of glory



tl;dr
Vivax, Prom and Djodref are town.
Lynch JieXian tomorrow first (but read the game again first of course).
Lynch Mocsta or iamp the next day if needed. Be really careful with this lynch.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 03 2013 16:06 GMT
#2120
VVCTTTT is also possible (no SK, no GF) so really we need to lynch mafia tomorrow.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 00:39 GMT
#2135
On February 04 2013 08:36 Vivax wrote:
Interesting, do we have a medic?


No, because nobody claimed medic. I don't see why a medic wouldn't claim at this point.
The lack of night kill is confusing, but we have to kill the bad guys.

@ JieXian

Tell me more about the fact the you are one-shot cop. Show me some posts, some reactions, some behavior which show that you are a one-shot cop, please.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 02:12 GMT
#2136
@ JieXian

So, who is the last scum ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 09:23 GMT
#2167
@ JieXian

Why did you not counterclaim Vivax ?
You had him as scum and you knew you were one-shot cop. Why didn't you counter-claim him to get him lynched ?
Who is scum now ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 09:26 GMT
#2169
On February 04 2013 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
Djo
Im bored and asking this for the sake of having something new to read when I press F5.

What do you make of Iampefection concerns regarding your setup speculation (top of p107)


I think iamp missed the post where I asked Toad in the thread how he handled multiple vigs. I don't think Toad setup tweaks make it very different from a C9++ setup. So I disagree with iamp when he says that the setup is closed ^^
Here is the quote !

On February 01 2013 20:34 Djodref wrote:
Could we know how this setup handles multiple vigs ?^^
Pretty please


But I chose not to fight over this. It's true that I could have asked more questions to the host.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 09:52 GMT
#2175
On February 04 2013 18:41 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:23 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian

Why did you not counterclaim Vivax ?
You had him as scum and you knew you were one-shot cop. Why didn't you counter-claim him to get him lynched ?
Who is scum now ?


I read the setup wiki prom gave me, 2 one-shop cops are perfectly possible. My claim would do nothing to get him lynched


You are lying
No breadcrumb whatsoever, no claim earlier on when it would have made sense to claim for a real one-shot cop.
Please at least tell us if you shot someone yesterday night ? Or did you forget to send the shot because you were absent ?

##Vote JieXian
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#2176
On February 04 2013 18:51 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:42 Promethelax wrote:
clearly you didn't, shall we look at cop roles?

C = 1-Shot Cop

CC = Cop

CCC = Cop, 1-Shot Cop

CCCC = 2 Cops

CCCCC = 2 Cops, 1-Shot Cop

CCCCCC = 3 Cops

maximum of one 1-shot cop.


If you are playing that game, shall we look at VG roles?

Vigilante Roles
V = 1-Shot Vigilante
VV = Vigilante
VVV = Vigilante, 1-Shot Vigilante
VVVV = 2 Vigilantes
VVVVV = 2 Vigilantes, 1-Shot Vigilante

maximum of one 1-shot VG.


Guys we've got our SK



Yes, but the OP mentions one-shot Cop and real cop, while it mentions only one-shot Vigs ^^
Where did you read that 2 single-shot cops was possible ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 09:56 GMT
#2177
I would also appreciate if we could make this day shorter !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 10:22 GMT
#2197
On February 04 2013 18:41 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:23 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian

Why did you not counterclaim Vivax ?
You had him as scum and you knew you were one-shot cop. Why didn't you counter-claim him to get him lynched ?
Who is scum now ?


I read the setup wiki prom gave me, 2 one-shop cops are perfectly possible. My claim would do nothing to get him lynched


When did you read the wiki ?
What do you think about Vivax now ?
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