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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 02 2013 08:24 GMT
#2048
On February 02 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 01:33 JieXian wrote:

I really hate to hurt my pride mochsta but

I've been in 3 townie games

Twice I made it to the end
Once I was shot D1 and everyone was saying that it was a stupid shot.

well, i dont think your stupid;

regardless, your comment above does not account for the lack of "passion" in your thread.

May I ask why iamp is your most confirmed town read?

Is this your sole reason?
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On January 30 2013 19:23 JieXian wrote:
Iamp, looks like town to me, I've never played with him before but he also posts the same way in Cheesecake, lots of 1-2 liners.

What stand out is his tunnel on thrawn D1 followed by this post

On January 29 2013 12:45 iamperfection wrote:
On January 29 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, iamp, I totally want to sheep your opinion of people based on who annoys you in the game.


you do realize thrawn annoyed me the most so thats why i killed him right


He's not even trying to claim townie credits were he scum, for bussing thrawn.


Or has your read developed further as the game progressed?


That was the most telling one. I can't find anything nearly as strong to argue for xsk or yamato. I mean they were basically not around at all
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 02 2013 08:31 GMT
#2049
On February 02 2013 02:01 Promethelax wrote:
I've been working under the assumption that one V us a single shot vig here and VV is two single shot viggies.

if we're at VVMC (which I doubt) we'd theoretically have TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer but if we have a serial killer we're only at VMC which has TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker in all likelyhood this set-up is VVC vs. TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
so final set-up would be
2 one shot vigs
1 one shot cop
7 VTs
vs
2 goons
1RB

which means Moc is confirmed town if yamato flips scum. We obviously have no doc because anyone not protecting EZ last night is a fucking retard. EZ was the only scum shot in this town and he/they were obvious townies.


I'll gladly lynch yamato

Vote : yamato77
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 03 2013 22:58 GMT
#2122
Sorry for my lateness but it was absolutely necessary.

So if it wasn't obvious enough, I'm the 1 shot cop who checked Sharrant N1 and that why I've been defending
him the most after N1. I was ready to claim whenever then time came (which was partly why I kept wanting
to lynch Yamato for going after Sharrant) but let's face it, he was never close to being lynched.

Later I challenged Vivax to check me so I can confirm his alignment but it turns out he was really 1 shot
and that pissed me off. I thought Vivax was posturing for something else with his N2 posts. I thought he
was lying but he was telling the truth about not wanting medic to protect him and all that.

I dodged the earlier claim request by EZ because there really wasn't a reason to come out like that and
also because I forgot to breadcrumb amongst all the drama that Djo created during N1. I was about to
claim late D3 but I realised that something was wrong about the setup and my claim will make no sense
based on the wiki:


VVCCTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)


If all the claims were true it doesn't make much sense because it implies that Djo and Prom aren't the SKs.
It's probable but highly unlikely that SK won't shoot someone for a free Djo mislynch N2.

Thing is, if 1 of them were lying the wiki didn't allow any SKs and we have a contradiction:


VCCTTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker


However, Toad's about "nerfing town" post allows for the possibility of:


VCCTTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker + SK


And I'm thinking that's where we're at now.

Prom's behavior is pointing towards someone who is super jolly and confident that he can avoid any
speculation that he is SK by having a good argument using the mafia wiki and to deduce that the setup
doesn't allow any possibility of there being an SK.

===============

So why did I remain quiet? Claiming early would bring nothing good at all. It'll invite scum to shoot me
instead of possibly hitting a bulletproof SK. By keeping quiet I can guarantee at least 1 townie doesn't
get shot

Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)

Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 07:16 GMT
#2161
On February 04 2013 08:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
By keeping quiet I can guarantee at least 1 townie doesn't get shot


Yeah, like when I was urging Prom to shoot Sharrant.

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On February 01 2013 03:13 JieXian wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:10 Vivax wrote:
Using my logic EZ isn't scum cause he spontaneously replied to suspicion by releasing an ocean of logs.

You on the other hand have suspicious targets for lynch and are giving a guy a town-read for a single post with lots of null reads and a scumread that died shortly thereafter.

Sharrant wanted to lynch yamato for dicking around and gave EZ an instant town read for not doing that. That doesn't make any fucking sense.

Sharrant didn't want to vote for thrawn after calling him suspicious for lurking in the early game, reason he gave: It's a lurker lynch.

Sharrant joined the jay wagon late and in a super scummy way, hastily throwing in a few reasons and didn't do shit D2.

Sharrant was the guy being attacked by VE shortly before his death. It's one less player against him for the next day.

You ignoring all these points and basing your townread on a single post cause it's huge just confirms that you are the likely scumbuddy.


Ok I have to reread his filter tomorrow

If what you said is true, you have a point.


He stilll may be GF right
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 07:27 GMT
#2162
On February 04 2013 14:25 Mocsta wrote:
No further questions from me, will prob just come back in 40 hrs; everything else seems association/flip dependent.

JX is in my timezone, so its safe to argue hes avoiding the thread. (Mind you if I only had phone access @ day, I would be hesitant to write up a defense on the phone - but that is irrelevant)

Outcome Im really really bored, and no other mafia games to read


I'm working man, I already said that. And I'm not some cashier either, I'm a research assistant.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 07:37 GMT
#2164
On February 04 2013 09:39 Djodref wrote:
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On February 04 2013 08:36 Vivax wrote:
Interesting, do we have a medic?


No, because nobody claimed medic. I don't see why a medic wouldn't claim at this point.
The lack of night kill is confusing, but we have to kill the bad guys.

@ JieXian

Tell me more about the fact the you are one-shot cop. Show me some posts, some reactions, some behavior which show that you are a one-shot cop, please.


I've never ever said Sharrant was scum, always given him town reads, defended him very stupidly and encouraged everyone to prove to me wrong if they could, in case he was a GF.

On January 30 2013 19:00 JieXian wrote:
I wasn't sure about Sharrant earlier, especially since he has only 2 pages of filter but what sticks out to me is:

I don't think scum will bother posting that wall of text (not that he doesn't have a point) about VE if he was going to be shot anyway

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On January 29 2013 07:29 Sharrant wrote:
Okay, here are my reads and a bit of a case.

Yamato
I'd say he's confirmed town, if he's still around at LyLo then we could have an issue but that's it.

IamPerfection
First townread of the game, pretty much confirmed. Posts don't feel constructed, and he's not giving off an air of discomfort, so even without his spot as conductor of the thrawn wagon he's got major townie points. The only thing that worries me is how sure he was that it was scum play from Thrawn, it's a niggling doubt but if Thrawn knew he wouldn't be around he might've told them to go for a very early bus. Until LyLo he should be treated as confirmed town.

Djodref
I can't see him being anything other than the vigi at this point, again, he's anotherperson to treat as confirmed town unless we start getting SK kills, or the game doesn't end after the scum's death, but that'd be such a risky play for an SK to make, there's just no payoff.


EmileZola
I did not like his early game at all, but he's been very townie lately to make up for it. Being a hydra makes a lot of sense, and seems to almost confirm him green.

Promethelax
Not my strongest read ever, but I'm fairly certain he's town. His recent posts have been pretty solid.

Vivax
Right out of the gates I had him as a strong townread with IamPerfection, but that's dropped off a little.

Ghost_403
I'm reasonably certain he's town. His thoughts have almost been bang on to what mine have been, I'm hesitant to put him as town until I hear his current thoughts on Hapahauli and Promethelax.

JieXian
Unsure about him, but other people are reading him as town, so that's a point for him above xsksc

xsksc
Unsure about him either, almost has to be scum by process of elimination if Hapahauli wasn't in the game still.

Hapahauli
There's not much to say about Hapa without trying to mindgame the hosts. Scummy/null.

VisceraEyes
I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now.

The first thing that set me off was this post.

On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so far I think iamp is the scummiest. Earlier he asked me if I was serious about my accusation of thrawn. Looking back I noticed this in his filter.

On January 26 2013 09:47 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax

was this a serious vote because if it is very weak

Vivax been very posty after having an avenue to not be with his pre game post.
I want to know if you actually think vivax is mafia when you get back.


On January 26 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:
your vote on vivax serious prom?


In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out:

On January 26 2013 11:28 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp do you have any opinions on what's going on or do you plan to uselessly ask people if "they're serious" all game?

Well if i told you how i think he would answer with regards to his alignment it would kind of defeat the purpose.


It would kind of at that.

##Vote: iamperfection


At this point I already had a huge townread on IamPerfection but VisceraEyes is trying to make him look scummy, and he is the only scum read he mentions all day. The closest he comes to another person being scummy, is saying he could lynch EmileZola because he's a troll and that he's okay with a policy lynch on Thrawn. (He does soft defend Hapa as well, but that's for after the flip)

On January 27 2013 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can do a thrawn vote too...consolidation-style.


Then the Thrawn bandwagon starts picking up steam, and suddenly VE can't even be bothered to mention people he thinks are scummy. He's entirely focused on how the wagon must be scum, but doesn't actually comment on who on the wagon might be scum.

On January 28 2013 03:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still okay with the thrawn lynch, aside from the relative lack of opposition. No one seems to care if thrawn dies, which is never indicative of a good lynch. But this is minor, and it's still kinda early.


On January 28 2013 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone does....that doesn't give you pause at all?


Two posts not even 15 minutes apart, both giving the most meek defense I've ever seen. It's like he's trying to get the bandwagon off of Thrawn without his name being involved at all.


On January 28 2013 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because if there's no resistance that means that scum are okay with the lynch. Who are scum okay with lynching? Townies.

Like I said, it's early enough that it's not really that much of a concern, but I wanted to put that out there for anyone paying attention to that kind of thing. No one has spoken up in defense of thrawn yet - at least not that I've seen. This is something that should be considered.


"Hey, guys, third post about the Thrawn lynch being bad in 20 minutes. Boy, it sure is crazy how no one is defending him right? Right, guys? He's obviously townie."


On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. If you really wanna push this failwagon be my guest.


"I'm not going to argue, but it's a bad lynch"


On January 28 2013 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not softdefending thrawn. I'm saying I don't like that there's no resistance to the wagon. I've said (multiple times) that I'm okay with a thrawn lynch. So whatever, keep trying to inject scumminess into my play however you wish yamato. It doesn't make me scum.


"I'm not soft defending Thrawn, I'm just saying this is a bad lynch for the fifth time in 20 minutes (Seriously, from 3:06 to 3:28 he posted 5 times about how Thrawn is most likely town). He's obviously town, you can tell by the lack of people resisting the wagon, but I'm okay with a thrawn lynch."

Pardon? You just spent 5 posts in a row saying he was town, the wagon is being lead by your ONLY SCUMREAD, and you are "okay" with the lynch?



On January 28 2013 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, there are now three votes on VE. You do the math Sharrant.

I'm pulling a thrawn. I've got a birthday party to go to, so I won't be back tonight. Figure it out guys.


"I don't even care enough to mention someone you should be voting before I leave."


On January 28 2013 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nono...I'll throw my weight behind thrawn.

##Unvote
##Vote: thrawn


"Oh, right, let me just hop on this wagon first."

How is that not deserving of an instant lynch since Thrawn flipped red? I don't want him vigged, I want him lynched. I want there to be as much discussion about this as possible.

So, quick recap here.

His ONLY SCUMREAD throughout all 48 hours of day 1 is a person that I think most people had easily meta-ed as town. He does no scum hunting beyond this, opting for two policy lynches. And then when one of them happens to be on scum, he defends him in 5 posts in 22 minutes and then says "I wasn't soft defending him". Then hops onto the wagon anyways.

If someone can rationalize this from a town perspective I would love to hear it, but all I see is VisceraEyes claiming scum, and everyone just looking elsewhere.




On February 01 2013 02:41 JieXian wrote:
You telling me it's WIFOM?

I think scum won't bother doing that. IF sharrant is scum he gets 5 stars from me. Unlikely. Especially since he didn't bring it up to defend himself like

"GAIS I EVEN POSTED A CASE AGAINST VE WOULD SCUM BOTHER DOING DAT"

____________


I don't know yet.


On February 01 2013 02:52 JieXian wrote:
I'll lynch sharrant if he gives me a strong enough reason to counter that night post



On January 31 2013 00:06 JieXian wrote:
oh ya Sharrant is townish/null for me.

I'll lynch him if you can convince me that I was wrong about him here:

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 19:00 JieXian wrote:
I wasn't sure about Sharrant earlier, especially since he has only 2 pages of filter but what sticks out to me is:

I don't think scum will bother posting that wall of text (not that he doesn't have a point) about VE if he was going to be shot anyway

On January 29 2013 07:29 Sharrant wrote:
Okay, here are my reads and a bit of a case.

Yamato
I'd say he's confirmed town, if he's still around at LyLo then we could have an issue but that's it.

IamPerfection
First townread of the game, pretty much confirmed. Posts don't feel constructed, and he's not giving off an air of discomfort, so even without his spot as conductor of the thrawn wagon he's got major townie points. The only thing that worries me is how sure he was that it was scum play from Thrawn, it's a niggling doubt but if Thrawn knew he wouldn't be around he might've told them to go for a very early bus. Until LyLo he should be treated as confirmed town.

Djodref
I can't see him being anything other than the vigi at this point, again, he's anotherperson to treat as confirmed town unless we start getting SK kills, or the game doesn't end after the scum's death, but that'd be such a risky play for an SK to make, there's just no payoff.


EmileZola
I did not like his early game at all, but he's been very townie lately to make up for it. Being a hydra makes a lot of sense, and seems to almost confirm him green.

Promethelax
Not my strongest read ever, but I'm fairly certain he's town. His recent posts have been pretty solid.

Vivax
Right out of the gates I had him as a strong townread with IamPerfection, but that's dropped off a little.

Ghost_403
I'm reasonably certain he's town. His thoughts have almost been bang on to what mine have been, I'm hesitant to put him as town until I hear his current thoughts on Hapahauli and Promethelax.

JieXian
Unsure about him, but other people are reading him as town, so that's a point for him above xsksc

xsksc
Unsure about him either, almost has to be scum by process of elimination if Hapahauli wasn't in the game still.

Hapahauli
There's not much to say about Hapa without trying to mindgame the hosts. Scummy/null.

VisceraEyes
I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now.

The first thing that set me off was this post.

On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so far I think iamp is the scummiest. Earlier he asked me if I was serious about my accusation of thrawn. Looking back I noticed this in his filter.

On January 26 2013 09:47 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax

was this a serious vote because if it is very weak

Vivax been very posty after having an avenue to not be with his pre game post.
I want to know if you actually think vivax is mafia when you get back.


On January 26 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:
your vote on vivax serious prom?


In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out:

On January 26 2013 11:28 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp do you have any opinions on what's going on or do you plan to uselessly ask people if "they're serious" all game?

Well if i told you how i think he would answer with regards to his alignment it would kind of defeat the purpose.


It would kind of at that.

##Vote: iamperfection


At this point I already had a huge townread on IamPerfection but VisceraEyes is trying to make him look scummy, and he is the only scum read he mentions all day. The closest he comes to another person being scummy, is saying he could lynch EmileZola because he's a troll and that he's okay with a policy lynch on Thrawn. (He does soft defend Hapa as well, but that's for after the flip)

On January 27 2013 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can do a thrawn vote too...consolidation-style.


Then the Thrawn bandwagon starts picking up steam, and suddenly VE can't even be bothered to mention people he thinks are scummy. He's entirely focused on how the wagon must be scum, but doesn't actually comment on who on the wagon might be scum.

On January 28 2013 03:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still okay with the thrawn lynch, aside from the relative lack of opposition. No one seems to care if thrawn dies, which is never indicative of a good lynch. But this is minor, and it's still kinda early.


On January 28 2013 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone does....that doesn't give you pause at all?


Two posts not even 15 minutes apart, both giving the most meek defense I've ever seen. It's like he's trying to get the bandwagon off of Thrawn without his name being involved at all.


On January 28 2013 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because if there's no resistance that means that scum are okay with the lynch. Who are scum okay with lynching? Townies.

Like I said, it's early enough that it's not really that much of a concern, but I wanted to put that out there for anyone paying attention to that kind of thing. No one has spoken up in defense of thrawn yet - at least not that I've seen. This is something that should be considered.


"Hey, guys, third post about the Thrawn lynch being bad in 20 minutes. Boy, it sure is crazy how no one is defending him right? Right, guys? He's obviously townie."


On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. If you really wanna push this failwagon be my guest.


"I'm not going to argue, but it's a bad lynch"


On January 28 2013 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not softdefending thrawn. I'm saying I don't like that there's no resistance to the wagon. I've said (multiple times) that I'm okay with a thrawn lynch. So whatever, keep trying to inject scumminess into my play however you wish yamato. It doesn't make me scum.


"I'm not soft defending Thrawn, I'm just saying this is a bad lynch for the fifth time in 20 minutes (Seriously, from 3:06 to 3:28 he posted 5 times about how Thrawn is most likely town). He's obviously town, you can tell by the lack of people resisting the wagon, but I'm okay with a thrawn lynch."

Pardon? You just spent 5 posts in a row saying he was town, the wagon is being lead by your ONLY SCUMREAD, and you are "okay" with the lynch?



On January 28 2013 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, there are now three votes on VE. You do the math Sharrant.

I'm pulling a thrawn. I've got a birthday party to go to, so I won't be back tonight. Figure it out guys.


"I don't even care enough to mention someone you should be voting before I leave."


On January 28 2013 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nono...I'll throw my weight behind thrawn.

##Unvote
##Vote: thrawn


"Oh, right, let me just hop on this wagon first."

How is that not deserving of an instant lynch since Thrawn flipped red? I don't want him vigged, I want him lynched. I want there to be as much discussion about this as possible.

So, quick recap here.

His ONLY SCUMREAD throughout all 48 hours of day 1 is a person that I think most people had easily meta-ed as town. He does no scum hunting beyond this, opting for two policy lynches. And then when one of them happens to be on scum, he defends him in 5 posts in 22 minutes and then says "I wasn't soft defending him". Then hops onto the wagon anyways.

If someone can rationalize this from a town perspective I would love to hear it, but all I see is VisceraEyes claiming scum, and everyone just looking elsewhere.







I've been repeating that same line 100 times.

On February 01 2013 02:57 JieXian wrote:
Vivax using your logic you'd have to lynch EZ for only having Yamato as red


Trust me, it wasn't easy at all trying to defend Sharrant.

About me and Vivax, everyone knows I have my doubts about him so I would know that he would definitely be scum if he gave me a green check but it didn't work:

On January 31 2013 00:44 JieXian wrote:
As I've said, I can't rationalise with his DT claim, that's the main reason.


On February 01 2013 03:12 JieXian wrote:
Just check me so I don't have to deal with you tomorrow

and you better don't claim I'm town because I'm gf >_>

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February 04 2013 07:39 GMT
#2165
On February 04 2013 16:27 Mocsta wrote:
JX, can you please expand; I don't follow how the quotes imply "he still may be GF"



On February 04 2013 08:23 JieXian wrote:
Ok I have to reread his filter tomorrow

If what you said is true, you have a point.


I removed the quotes. Vivax found that super scummy
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February 04 2013 09:41 GMT
#2171
On February 04 2013 18:23 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian

Why did you not counterclaim Vivax ?
You had him as scum and you knew you were one-shot cop. Why didn't you counter-claim him to get him lynched ?
Who is scum now ?


I read the setup wiki prom gave me, 2 one-shop cops are perfectly possible. My claim would do nothing to get him lynched
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February 04 2013 09:50 GMT
#2173
On February 04 2013 18:26 Promethelax wrote:
JX, why the hell did you send half your big reveal post talking about the set-up, a quarter about how I was sk and a line saying that Imp was the last scum?

concede!

Why would Vivax checking you and calling you town be a scum claim? I still don't understand the logic. Except that you would have returned red.


Guys, based on Toad's I "nerfed town" post, we can be certain that there is something more to this game than we had imagined.

I spent time talking about the setup because I found out that you are most probably wrong. I'm sorry but I don't plan to sit on my ass if I think that we are heading in the wrong direction.

I can expand on iamp very easily. Mochsta showed me another side of iamp that I missed. His last 2 pages of filter shows he isn't doing anything the past day trolling and rejoicing, much more so than you.

If you aren't SK there might be a GF left but we should address the SK issue later.

I'm blue. If he claims I'm green he obviously didn't check me as a DT.
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February 04 2013 09:51 GMT
#2174
On February 04 2013 18:42 Promethelax wrote:
clearly you didn't, shall we look at cop roles?

C = 1-Shot Cop

CC = Cop

CCC = Cop, 1-Shot Cop

CCCC = 2 Cops

CCCCC = 2 Cops, 1-Shot Cop

CCCCCC = 3 Cops

maximum of one 1-shot cop.


If you are playing that game, shall we look at VG roles?

Vigilante Roles
V = 1-Shot Vigilante
VV = Vigilante
VVV = Vigilante, 1-Shot Vigilante
VVVV = 2 Vigilantes
VVVVV = 2 Vigilantes, 1-Shot Vigilante

maximum of one 1-shot VG.


Guys we've got our SK

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February 04 2013 10:00 GMT
#2180
On February 04 2013 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
JX,

since you are here. Why do you think Yamato barely references you in his filter?
In fact, there are only two posts in his filter that reference either "JieXian" or "JX" (or variant)

(1)
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 07:34 Sharrant wrote:
...
Djodref is still null for me, and JieXian is pretty much my wildcard scum read. If it doesn't end up being Prom/VE/EmileZola I would expect JieXian to be in the team.
On January 28 2013 10:30 yamato77 wrote:
...
When I see a player give out this many null/potentially scum reads in one post, my scumdar goes off. ...

This reads hugely noncommittal. He doesn't take a strong stance even on one of the players he considers to be part of his hypothetical scum team, he just waffles and says "I need to hear more from him."

He's also amazingly fluffy throughout his filter. I'd be up for lynching him tomorrow.

Interesting, Sharrant accuses JX of being scum wild card.
Remember who incessantly tunneled Sharrant? Why of course, Yamato77.

(2)
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:
Well I can tell you one of Djo/Prom is SK. Prom far more likely, given that he waited until N2. But there won't be another shot until it wins him the game, so you should just lynch him.

Mafia could be any 2 out of you/Mocsta/JX at this point. Mocsta least likely.

Let me ask you, what have you done since lynching thrawn d1?

This statement is just a summary of the thread status quo at the time. i.e. as everyone else was "confirmed" the remainder is Mocsta/iamperfection/JX, this actually provides nothing new to the thought process.


Henceforth, I think its safe to say, Yamato77 never referenced you in the game.
Those two posts actually are not directed to you in any way, shape or manner.

If we consider that Yamato went out of his way to tunnel VE & Sharrant, and also respond to all other participants (except you).


@JieXian

Why do you think Yamato made a special effort not to reference you?


He doesn't seem to give a damn about the game anyway with that miller claim. 1 of the reasons I was after him for most of the game because he was tunelling Sharrant.

He did whine about me N2 but he didn't mention my name.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&currentpage=88#1749

Maybe it's because he's usually online when I'm asleep, no idea.
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February 04 2013 10:04 GMT
#2182
On February 04 2013 18:58 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:50 JieXian wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:26 Promethelax wrote:
JX, why the hell did you send half your big reveal post talking about the set-up, a quarter about how I was sk and a line saying that Imp was the last scum?

concede!

Why would Vivax checking you and calling you town be a scum claim? I still don't understand the logic. Except that you would have returned red.


Guys, based on Toad's I "nerfed town" post, we can be certain that there is something more to this game than we had imagined.

I spent time talking about the setup because I found out that you are most probably wrong. I'm sorry but I don't plan to sit on my ass if I think that we are heading in the wrong direction.

I can expand on iamp very easily. Mochsta showed me another side of iamp that I missed. His last 2 pages of filter shows he isn't doing anything the past day trolling and rejoicing, much more so than you.

If you aren't SK there might be a GF left but we should address the SK issue later.

I'm blue. If he claims I'm green he obviously didn't check me as a DT.

hurrr durrr I don't know how the role I am pretending to have works.


OK i checked the wiki, that was my point in my long post. In that case, it was good thing he didn't check me or else I'd have went nuts for no reason
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February 04 2013 10:05 GMT
#2183
On February 04 2013 18:52 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:41 JieXian wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:23 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian

Why did you not counterclaim Vivax ?
You had him as scum and you knew you were one-shot cop. Why didn't you counter-claim him to get him lynched ?
Who is scum now ?


I read the setup wiki prom gave me, 2 one-shop cops are perfectly possible. My claim would do nothing to get him lynched


You are lying
No breadcrumb whatsoever, no claim earlier on when it would have made sense to claim for a real one-shot cop.
Please at least tell us if you shot someone yesterday night ? Or did you forget to send the shot because you were absent ?

##Vote JieXian


? i checked sharrant n1
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February 04 2013 10:06 GMT
#2185
On February 04 2013 18:55 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:51 JieXian wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:42 Promethelax wrote:
clearly you didn't, shall we look at cop roles?

C = 1-Shot Cop

CC = Cop

CCC = Cop, 1-Shot Cop

CCCC = 2 Cops

CCCCC = 2 Cops, 1-Shot Cop

CCCCCC = 3 Cops

maximum of one 1-shot cop.


If you are playing that game, shall we look at VG roles?

Vigilante Roles
V = 1-Shot Vigilante
VV = Vigilante
VVV = Vigilante, 1-Shot Vigilante
VVVV = 2 Vigilantes
VVVVV = 2 Vigilantes, 1-Shot Vigilante

maximum of one 1-shot VG.


Guys we've got our SK



Yes, but the OP mentions one-shot Cop and real cop, while it mentions only one-shot Vigs ^^
Where did you read that 2 single-shot cops was possible ?


it only mentions the possibilities right
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February 04 2013 10:07 GMT
#2187
On February 04 2013 19:05 Promethelax wrote:
How do yo not know how 'your role' works? Its in the damn role pm. Why am I still talking to you? Just die.


Sadly I didn't know how the yakuza role worked in EVery Man For Himself mafia either and I fucked up really badly
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February 04 2013 10:09 GMT
#2188
On February 04 2013 19:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 19:01 Promethelax wrote:
In case my above point wasn't clear I bring you this from the OP:
]You are a Cop! Once per night, you may investigate a player by PMing the hosts with ##investigate: Player. Your investigation will either return Town or Scum
cop checks don't come back blue. Concede scum.


JX, address this point.


I addressed it earlier. If I had claimed getting blue from Sharrant I will lynch myself now.
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February 04 2013 10:11 GMT
#2190
On February 04 2013 19:04 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:58 Promethelax wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:50 JieXian wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:26 Promethelax wrote:
JX, why the hell did you send half your big reveal post talking about the set-up, a quarter about how I was sk and a line saying that Imp was the last scum?

concede!

Why would Vivax checking you and calling you town be a scum claim? I still don't understand the logic. Except that you would have returned red.


Guys, based on Toad's I "nerfed town" post, we can be certain that there is something more to this game than we had imagined.

I spent time talking about the setup because I found out that you are most probably wrong. I'm sorry but I don't plan to sit on my ass if I think that we are heading in the wrong direction.

I can expand on iamp very easily. Mochsta showed me another side of iamp that I missed. His last 2 pages of filter shows he isn't doing anything the past day trolling and rejoicing, much more so than you.

If you aren't SK there might be a GF left but we should address the SK issue later.

I'm blue. If he claims I'm green he obviously didn't check me as a DT.

hurrr durrr I don't know how the role I am pretending to have works.


OK i checked the wiki, that was my point in my long post. In that case, it was good thing he didn't check me or else I'd have went nuts for no reason

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February 04 2013 10:12 GMT
#2191
Meaning I claimed green from Sharrant. A blue claim from Sharrant would be a dead tell.
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February 04 2013 10:16 GMT
#2194
On February 04 2013 18:52 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:41 JieXian wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:23 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian

Why did you not counterclaim Vivax ?
You had him as scum and you knew you were one-shot cop. Why didn't you counter-claim him to get him lynched ?
Who is scum now ?


I read the setup wiki prom gave me, 2 one-shop cops are perfectly possible. My claim would do nothing to get him lynched


You are lying
No breadcrumb whatsoever, no claim earlier on when it would have made sense to claim for a real one-shot cop.
Please at least tell us if you shot someone yesterday night ? Or did you forget to send the shot because you were absent ?

##Vote JieXian


I didn't breadcrumb something super specific but I got this :

On January 30 2013 19:00 JieXian wrote:
I wasn't sure about Sharrant earlier, especially since he has only 2 pages of filter but what sticks out to me is:

I don't think scum will bother posting that wall of text (not that he doesn't have a point) about VE if he was going to be shot anyway

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February 04 2013 10:17 GMT
#2195

On February 04 2013 19:04 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 18:58 Promethelax wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:50 JieXian wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:26 Promethelax wrote:
JX, why the hell did you send half your big reveal post talking about the set-up, a quarter about how I was sk and a line saying that Imp was the last scum?

concede!

Why would Vivax checking you and calling you town be a scum claim? I still don't understand the logic. Except that you would have returned red.


Guys, based on Toad's I "nerfed town" post, we can be certain that there is something more to this game than we had imagined.

I spent time talking about the setup because I found out that you are most probably wrong. I'm sorry but I don't plan to sit on my ass if I think that we are heading in the wrong direction.

I can expand on iamp very easily. Mochsta showed me another side of iamp that I missed. His last 2 pages of filter shows he isn't doing anything the past day trolling and rejoicing, much more so than you.

If you aren't SK there might be a GF left but we should address the SK issue later.

I'm blue. If he claims I'm green he obviously didn't check me as a DT.

hurrr durrr I don't know how the role I am pretending to have works.


OK i checked the wiki, that was my point in my long post. In that case, it was good thing he didn't check me or else I'd have went nuts for no reason


That post shows that I admitted being wrong about the whole blue idea btw
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