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On January 29 2013 14:34 EmileZola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 13:44 Djodref wrote:On January 29 2013 13:30 EmileZola wrote:On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft
How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ? ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything) First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever) Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere. Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us. I didn't put my vote on thrawn but I suspected he was scum from the beginning and I said it as soon as I entered the thread. I was more interested in pushing active targets than thrawn to get more constructive discussion. Anyway, no need to be pissed off like this, and from your actions it is not clear that you had thrawn as scum for the beginning. The vote on thrawn was very quickly unvoted and your whole plan is dubious. it wasn't my "plan" and I don't think like super does. I've already stated multiple times that I was not around when super was doing his VE thing. Hell, his logic was probably similar to yours-if thrawn is surely scum then let's get reactions out of other people. I don't have a huge problem with that, but the fact that you're attacking super for basically doing what you did is hilarious. It shows how completely clueless you are.
I don't want to start a fight but being clueless is part of this game. Hell, your list, (I guess it was yours) just after thrawn lynch contained a total of zero scum (ve+ghost+me).
I have failed to show you that I was town and, if you guys are town, you have failed in the same way.
But let's try to find scum today rather than fight !
I could get behind a Sharrant lynch today. But I'm more interested in pushing xsksc now.
I also think we give Vivax too much leeway.
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@ Emile Zola
Among which players do you think we're going to find the last scum, if you're right about Sharrant ?
Would you lynch xsksc today ?
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On January 29 2013 12:32 jaybrundage wrote:
Djo talk to me what do you think of my reads. Whos your biggest scum read atm. If your a Vig why arnet you dead?
I'm not dead because I've antoginized enough players in this game so mafia could mislynch me, pretending I'm a SK I guess.
I think the last two scum are among xsksc, Sharrant, Prome, Emile Zola, Vivax and you. With xsksc, Sharrant and you being more suspicious than the others.
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@ Vivax
Why didn't you ask me to shoot xsksc yesterday night ?
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xsksc
Ok, guys, you should take a look at xsksc filter. What has he been doing in this game ?
- defending himself
- defending himself
- gives a scum read on me (gut read with no explanation)
- defending himself
- tunnels EZ for being anti-town, while it's more likely for players sticking out like this to be to town (in my view)
- goes with the flow and start to show suspicion towards me after thrawn lynch
- immediately believes my vig claim
- inactive
- martyr
While being polite, xsksc has been also blendy, and his lack of scumhunting is simple amazing. He never explained why and how EZ actions make him mafia in his eyes. I think he just having someone to suspect for the sake of having a scumread. He doesn't pressure anyone for real.
xsksc is scum. Lynch him today !
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On January 30 2013 07:20 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 10:11 Promethelax wrote:
In order sharrent>JX>Hapa/yam>djo (???) but now that you have replaced Haps he is out, I'm very wary of Yam/Djo but because of their claims I won't be pushing them for lynch. I prefer the noose on shar's neck to JX's. According to my notes though Shar said something really dumb that I thought might point towards him being town. I'm going to reread his filter and see what I can see. I think I'll be voting one of these two today. I still don't like lynching xscsk, his mentality is right.
xsksc cares more about his image than about finding scum, hence he spent his time defending himself instead of finding scum.
xsksc immediately believed my claim while I had been a gut scum read for quite a time and started to show real suspicion of me after thrawn lynch when some other players in the thread were attacking me.
Please discuss about these points.
Please explain me how and why JieXian bussed thrawn yesterday.
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Ok, I don't see any reason to doubt Vivax claim at this point. There is still room setup-wise because I don't think we have any medic. We don't know yet if there could be SK, GF or not yet, so I don't want to lynch xsksc anymore.
I can support a lynch of Sharrant or jay today. I would prefer to lynch jay.
If I have to believe the claims right now, we have VMC(C?) with 4 or 3 possible T left. Basically, depending on how many checks Vivax have and if there is still some blues left, we are going to know if there is godfather or SK also in this game.
I'm going today with the assumption that we have VMCTTTT as a setup (1-shot Cop, no SK, no GF, no more blues).
@ JieXian
Vivax claimed Cop. What do you make of this ?
##Unvote
##Vote jay
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I expect xsksc to step up his game, and the same for JieXian. I would like to see more from yamato as well.
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I think that Thrawn lynch has been possible because the scumteam was inactive and didn't manage to push a mislynch.
Who was inactive day 1 ? Who has defended thrawn in the very beginning of the game ? Hapa.
And your entrance in this thread didn't convince me that you were town at all.
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@ town players
Please be very carefull wrt to JieXian. Of course, he has done some scummy things, but this guy is a fucking lynch bait when he is town. Please refer to WitchCraft Mini Mafia or LIX. He basically says whatever is on his mind while he reads the thread and make random and useless comments a lot.
For me, he has joined thrawn wagon early enough to be town. Check this votecount again, there was almost no traction on the thrawn lynch at that point. I don't imagine scum JieXian doing this kind of things.
On January 28 2013 03:25 Toadesstern wrote:VE-VE-VE-VOTECOUNT: Sharrant ( 1 ): Vivax Iamperfection ( 2 ): VisceraEyes, thrawn2112 Xsksc ( 1 ): Promethelax Thrawn2112 ( 2 ): iamperfection, JieXian Promethelax ( 2 ): Sharrant, ghost_403 VisceraEyes ( 2 ): Djodref, yamato77 Hapahauli ( 1 ): EmileZola EmileZola ( 1 ): xsksc With 13 people alive it takes 7 to lynch someone.
1 people haven't voted yet: Hapahauli, Deadline is still 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Important Mod note:Hapahauli has contacted me to get replaced and he will be replaced. We won't be able to replace someone in before monday though. Keep that in mind. He will not be modkilled and most likely won't vote/post this cycle
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On January 30 2013 10:05 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 10:04 Vivax wrote:
That post was before the NKs, not the lynch. wat
Vivax is trying to say that Sharrant knew that VE was going to get shot at the end of the night. Because he said
"I'm not going to make association cases before his flip" which could mean he knew that VE was going to get killed this night.
In fact, it's a pretty nice find. Because it is not like VE was going to get lynched easily soon. Sharrant knew that VE was going to flip (=get killed here) soon.
##Unvote
##Vote Sharrant
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On January 29 2013 07:29 Sharrant wrote:
*snip*
VisceraEyes
I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now.
This is just before VE flip. Information that only mafia could have known.
*snip*
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@ Sharrant
What about Prome and EZ saying that they were going to lynch me if I had shot VE ?
And the fact the only few people wanted to shoot VE ? Tell me who do you think could have followed you on a VE lynch ?
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On January 30 2013 10:25 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 10:17 Djodref wrote:
@ Sharrant
What about Prome and EZ saying that they were going to lynch me if I had shot VE ?
And the fact the only few people wanted to shoot VE ? Tell me who do you think could have followed you on a VE lynch ? Well, you had VE as a scum read going into N1, Ghost had VE as a scum game since the beginning of the game (for those of you wondering, my town read on Ghost came because his entrance into the thread matched by thoughts throughout the whole game word for word). Half of EZ had VE as scum earlier as well. So I figured with a strong case (and I think it was a pretty good case, even if it turned out to be wrong) that it would push it to the point where a VE lynch would be viable unless he started playing better.
Ok, fair enough. Who would you lynch today ?
Wich players do you have as possible scum and why ?
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Hapa/jay
Here is the collection of mentions of thrawn by Hapa.
On January 26 2013 12:53 Hapahauli wrote:*snip* Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 12:43 Djodref wrote:On January 26 2013 12:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Where did everyone go? I'm here. What do you think about thrawn entrance in the thread ? It's "bleh." He tends to come in and make random jokes like that as town. Can't make anywhere near an accurate read on him this early though.
Doesn't commit to anything. It could be even a soft-defense because there was already some suspicion on thrawn at that point and he was less active than usual at this point. He directed me towards xsksc in his next post.
On January 26 2013 13:04 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Djo
Can you sum up your suspicions of xsksc? I can't piece together your thoughts - it sounds like you're disagreeing more with his verbage rather than finding him scummy.
On January 27 2013 06:43 Hapahauli wrote:@ JXShow nested quote +On January 27 2013 03:02 JieXian wrote:
Hapa is uncharacteristically quiet (so is Vivax, though Vivax isn't as quiet)
I WONDER WHY
We live on the opposite sides of the world ya know - gotta get my sleep and all.
Regarding ThrawnHe's the only other guy I'm concerned about right now. He's lurky as scum, and has been doing the same so far.
Concerned about thrawn, but not voting him nor pushing him.
On January 27 2013 09:05 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 08:59 Promethelax wrote:
Close.
Both Marv and millers should be considered town until further evidence. A Marv miller even more so. But one should never let the nature of why you have at Marv miler as town obscure your thoughts since he could be scum. Discrediting Marv now is stupid, he is probably town, he is probably miller and he will probably be night killed, throwing a bunch of suspicions is a waste of time and space. All we needed was to remember that he wasn't totally confirmed town. So yes, I wanted to hear more from Marv, I always want to hear more from Marv. Sounds reasonable. Show nested quote +Hapa, besides thrawn and his lurk what are you seeing in this thread worth attacking? is the smurf really mr. Z? If he isn't is he scum? Well I'll wait for him to confirm himself before I make a judgement. If the smurf isn't MrZ though, I'd be down for lynching him. Thrawn + Ghost lurk annoys me.Other than that, I found one of the latest quotes by Iamp as scummy: Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
Well ill let porm answer since he always complains when I answer questions directed at other people. Since when does iamp give a fuck about what people think of him?
Annoyed. Not a very strong word. I think town Hapa could have pegged thrawn as scum at this point. Hapa has been playing with thrawn in Mario Mini Mafia and he knows he hangs out in the scumQT. Hapa has been playing with ghost in WitchCraft and he knows he is not very active as town. Their inactivity are presented on the same level here while they don't mean the same thing at all for these players. And Hapa should know that perfectly.
One other thing I don't like in Hapa's filter is this post.
On January 26 2013 11:37 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:29 Promethelax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:23 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:08 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, lets set some ground rules, no one tries to lynch Marv d1 unless Hapa, me and VE all agree about him being scum. We're the three who know him well in this group. A corollary is that we will lynch him in lylo no matter what. If he is town and scum want to take the risk of letting him live that long we can make that trade.
Along with that we will kill lurkers and liars, I'm done with towns where those things are acceptable. I would like confirmation from those players who are here on this. People who play anti-town will also be lynched. We must make it so that townies cannot play in a scummy way, it is time for town to win a mini.
We believe in capital punishment in this town.
xsksc: tell me about yourself. What are your strengths and what are your weaknesses?
Alright. I'd appreciate if you do the same for me, you're one of the players in this game I'm not familiar with. My reads are usually pretty good, I've never been lynched and I'd like to think people can identify my town play easily enough. My weakness would probably be not pushing my reads hard enough/getting people on-board with me. On January 26 2013 09:13 Vivax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:10 xsksc wrote:On January 26 2013 09:07 iamperfection wrote:this is better prom has posted the scummiest post so far On January 26 2013 08:55 Promethelax wrote:
Hello one and all and welcome to my town, there are three rules here. No lying, no lurking and no creating bad town atmosphere. Clear? because everyone in this game already knows this and he would only post it to appear to contribute ## Vote prom It's a pretty pointless post as, like you said, everyone clearly knows this already. There's not really a scum motive for it either, it doesn't earn him any townie points whatsoever. It's just pointless. I think this post is scummy. It's lengthy and too serious in this situation. It also suggests xsksc has been lurking until he read your question. He was observing us silently. ##Unvote
##Vote xsksc It's 2 lines long, I'm not sure what world that would qualify as lengthy in... Iamperfection said Proms post was scummy, I said I don't see a scum motive behind it, pointless post =/= scum post. Fairly simple. Replying to this before I forget, at one time I thought my strength lay in being obviously townie and not in scum hunting. Over my last few games I think that has been shifting. I have been mislynched twice in a row and caught scum twice I. A row (we are ignoring lviii). I can pretty well assure you that Marv and probably Hapa will be able to read me as town. As to the other players in this game, most know me and have played with me before but I'm less sure that they'll be able to read me well. Huh? How do you know that I'm town?
Prome doesn't even imply that Hapa is town in his post. I think the scumslip is far-fetched here. I suspect a soft-town claim by scum Hapa here.
I liked Sharrant defense a little, when jay sounded butthurt lately. Town jay martyrs when he is mislynched.
##Unvote
##Vote jay
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On January 30 2013 11:27 jaybrundage wrote:
@Djo Umm at the begging of your you said Hapa/jay. But all i see is hapa and no jay.
Also as town i used to martry. Obvious it never works as i still got mislynched. I dont plan to get mislynched this game,
Well, so you know what you should do not to get lynched. Go find better lynch targets than you !
Where you active lurking ? You are around but you show up when I change my vote on you ?
Why are you not presenting your cases ? I have defended JieXian, do you have any comment to make on my post ?
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On January 30 2013 11:29 jaybrundage wrote:
And your case is more or less Hapa doesnt jump on the thrawn wagon as if he knows the alignment of thrawn.
The reason being is he doesnt know thrawn's alignment. He was suspicious of thrawn and im sure if hapa didn't need ot get replaced he would of followed up and voted thrawn as well.
Town Hapa hates lurkers. He is an adept of the "Lynch a Lurker" policy. I think he would have pushed a lynch on thrawn because this policy is almost assured to hit scum with this player. Hapa did not vote thrawn. This is a fact !
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On January 30 2013 11:45 jaybrundage wrote:
@Djo I have been actively posting. You act like I have been not posting at all till i saw your case. I have posted my reads atm of JX and Sharrant. As of yet JX has been lurking everyone wants to defend him but no one lets him defend him self. Why is that? Yes he was on thrawn early could this make him more likely to be town sure. Can he still be scum yes. I have had games when people bus someone as the first or second post. DocH did this one game as scum.
In regards to your second post yes hapa didnt vote thrawn. He had to get replaced and the mods stated hapa would stop posting and not partake in the voting. So whats your point.
What do you make of the fact that JieXian is usually a lynch bait ?
Could you provide some evidence that his vote on thrawn was a bus vote ? Could you provide better evidence that he is mafia ?
Why are you not doing it already ?
My point is that Hapa should have been very suspicious of thrawn. And he could have been pushing his lycnh while he was still in the game. Hapa knows thrawn almost as well as iamp, if not better (because they played scum together once).
Supersoft looks like he had thrawn as scum quite early, iamp did, I did. Why Hapa was putting him on the same level as ghost ? I think Hapa was scum with thrawn.
I might be wrong, but you should convince me on the opposite if you are indeed town.
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On January 30 2013 12:05 iamperfection wrote:
im not seeing this being a huge point djo. hapa replacde pretty early and im sure if he had saw the vote post by thrawn he would have voted for him.
i believe hapa had already stopped posting before i threw out the first vote on thrawn.
What about the post where he places ghost and thrawn inactivity at the same level ?
"Ghost+thrawn lurking annoys me"
Seriously ? Annoying ? Town Hapa kills lurker with fire. Moreover:
-ghost being inactive matches his town activity in Witchcraft (Hapa was in this game).
-thrawn being inactive means thrawn is scum (Hapa was in his scumteam in Mario Mini Mafia, maybe he has read LVIII).
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On January 30 2013 12:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Your case on hapa and his replacement hapa 2.0 is lacking.
Hapa saw thrawn lurking and was commentating on it and making his reads known. Then he had to get replaced. What do you think the next logical step woould be for town hapa if he didn't get replaced. To vote thrawn.
Your case is pretty weak. Go make a new one or find actual scum.
@Ziggler Sharrant or JX i keep waffling between the two. They have different play styles but I don't like there lurkiness.
What's your thoughts on who we should lynch.
How do you know what Hapa would have done or not ?
You shouldn't be concerned about defending my case against Hapa because you are not in a position to do so.
I'm pushing your lynch for the moment. Present better cases against your targets and I might change my mind.
Also I would like to know if you have any alternative ideas for the scum players ? There are still two of them...
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