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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 16:07 GMT
#3894
Just a silly thing I was musing on. It looks like none of the mafia masons used their mason power. This must have been a conscious plan (presumably to discredit town masons?)
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 16:17 GMT
#3897
On February 01 2013 01:12 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 01:07 FiveTouch wrote:
Just a silly thing I was musing on. It looks like none of the mafia masons used their mason power. This must have been a conscious plan (presumably to discredit town masons?)

Didn't make sense to me with a single player, but I suppose it makes some sense as a faction-wide decision.

Pass up the chance at control over the game to stay away from getting a player or two caught by virtue of weeding through the masons for mafia, and you can bring up that up lategame and try to get some mislynches on the virtue of mason-role only.


Who do you want to be lynching on the morrow?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 16:17 GMT
#3898
On February 01 2013 01:14 yamato77 wrote:
It also makes grush look worse because he technically masoned people but never took advantage of it.


I disagree, it makes grush look infinitely better.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 16:24 GMT
#3902
On February 01 2013 01:23 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 01:17 FiveTouch wrote:
On February 01 2013 01:12 austinmcc wrote:
On February 01 2013 01:07 FiveTouch wrote:
Just a silly thing I was musing on. It looks like none of the mafia masons used their mason power. This must have been a conscious plan (presumably to discredit town masons?)

Didn't make sense to me with a single player, but I suppose it makes some sense as a faction-wide decision.

Pass up the chance at control over the game to stay away from getting a player or two caught by virtue of weeding through the masons for mafia, and you can bring up that up lategame and try to get some mislynches on the virtue of mason-role only.


Who do you want to be lynching on the morrow?
yamato. I wrote up some stuff on him last night, but I think it overall fits. I've finally got a bit more free time now, though, so I need to also look at a couple other players. He's the only one that I've taken an in-depth look at so far.

Off the top of my head, I don't like a lynch on annul. Balance is a small point in favor of looking at newer players. He's also asked a couple questions at times where they didn't need to be asked by mafia, and then didn't push them hard. While they could have been for town points, in cases where they could be used to try and save a mafia buddy (Gonzaw masoning), he didn't push them and so didn't feel like he was trying to start a push for a save.

I'll poke around fuba, stutters, and I guess what there is of adam, but yamato just looked baaaaaaaaad to me when I was trying to talk with him and filtering him. Yes, there's always the possibility that's how he plays, and I know he can tunnel and can be abrasive, but he's still on top of my list for the moment.


So you want to lynch yamato despite what's just been discussed about the masons?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 16:29 GMT
#3905
On February 01 2013 01:28 Toadesstern wrote:
see, that's exactly the reasoning I wouldn't even mind posting the my final post exactly now. Have to do everything myself...

But I can't post it right now, to many idiots running around.


This has been blatantly untrue the entire game, so stop it.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 16:57 GMT
#3910
On February 01 2013 01:43 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 01:37 yamato77 wrote:
Mocsta would have died N1 if I was mafia.

I knew he was mason with Chez like me D1, FT has the logs.

Unless you've got a history somewhere of blowing up masons whenever you can, this doesn't really do anything.

Mafia already knew mocsta was a mason, because Chez himself was mafia. Your being mafia and knowing he was a mason wouldn't have changed their knowledge, and would have only mattered in the way you want it to here if you were some kind of super anti-mason zealot as mafia.


It just seems that for someone who likes maths and logic like you, it's odd that you want to kill yamato, which would mean

a) mafia had 4 masons to town's 3, and
b) yamato as this extra mason on his own decided to mason people unlike the plan laid out by the rest of the team (apparently)
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 31 2013 17:23 GMT
#3913
On February 01 2013 02:16 austinmcc wrote:
Did we ever get an explanation for Chezinu telling mocsta in mason chat that "Grush like yam!" prior to Grush's masoning Yamato coming to light?

Grush would mean the same mason split, and mocsta seemed to move around a bit last night cycle, but one of the things that pops out of his filter was him picking up on that line in his chat with Chez and how Chez seemed to have info that the thread didn't. I haven't seen anything yet. Yamato did you tell Chez that Grush had masoned you or had a townread on you or anything?


Was probably referring to this:

On January 20 2013 13:42 grush57 wrote:
Wow yamato what a towny post.

Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 00:20 GMT
#3944
On February 01 2013 08:42 Toadesstern wrote:
don't spam away my big post!

Show nested quote +
Guess what?

Annul is the last mafia and I'm 100% certain on him. Is there anyone even considering him to be town while everyone else in the game is confirmed town about now? Just take a look at his filter: Called Vivax smart d1 (LOL) while calling sandroba, bugs, marv and me idiots, he tried to make sure we don't lynch Chez, he was against Marv being mayor, he was against me being Sheriff, he almost ragequitted because of bugs, he still hasn't explained a thing about anything he has done including his plan so we don't have to lynch Chez and so on and so on, don't think I have to explain more, do I?
Another point is that, as already mentioned pretty much every one is confirmed town around now including people like debears, grush, stutters and so on.
Stupid people like mkfuba and Vivax were harder to figure out (it could have been possible Vivax just faked his DT to get towncred for bussing gonzaw, he never explained why he checked bugs after all, nor why he checked Gonzaw to begin with and tried to say EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG is mafia for everytime someone disagreed with him) but there's really no way those guys are mafia anymore with these flips. Townie Annul however is something that isn't possible anymore with everything that has happened. I'm saying there is literally no way for Annul to flip town.

Trying to argue this one around now would be really bad so I suggest you all shut up and Marv and I will enforce a "lynch all idiots who keep talking about this before the daypost is in"-policy-lynch-system. To add to the case just look at the voters d1 and take an educated guess about what happened. Make yourself reread annuls filter in these 2 hours and take a look at what happened d1 and there's no way you'll come to a different conclusion than I came to. Mafia probably tried to get gonzaw into office if you look at the vote-distribution except that Annul ended up saying something like. "Not gonna happen, we can't just all pool our votes on gonzaw and hope noone notices, we need to split at least SOMEWHAT, Toad's an idiot and I don't mind him being sheriff".

Shoot, that was longer than I expeceted and obviously prepared ahead of time, see you in two hours and again don't discuss this because I am going to jail Annul no matter what.


I, the Mayor, approve of this Sheriffal message. I can't get annul out of my top 2.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:10 GMT
#3950
Stop trolling. We kill annul. austin is kinda tempting because he deserves to be lynched for being wrong the whole game and not submitting to me.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:11 GMT
#3951
Why the fuck do they keep on not killing you lol

do they really think we might think you're mafia?

P.S. i am aware of the irony of my last post :p
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:21 GMT
#3957
On February 01 2013 10:19 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Stop trolling. We kill annul. austin is kinda tempting because he deserves to be lynched for being wrong the whole game and not submitting to me.

If Toad jked annul doesn't that prove he can't be scum?


yes

i'm kinda drunk and as i was smoking a cigarette i realised this rofl

now i'm going to get my wine out the fridge and forget about it until toad talks to us tomorrow

also let's kill oats
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:23 GMT
#3959
On February 01 2013 10:22 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Stop trolling. We kill annul. austin is kinda tempting because he deserves to be lynched for being wrong the whole game and not submitting to me.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 21:36 FiveTouch wrote:
##Vote: austinmcc



What does that quote mean?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:26 GMT
#3964
wouldn't surprise me at all if toad didn't jail you tbh.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:30 GMT
#3966
On February 01 2013 10:24 annul wrote:
vivax who did you check?


l2read

On February 01 2013 10:06 Vivax wrote:
Austin is indeed a veteran.

Adam + Fuba?

Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 01:33 GMT
#3969
On February 01 2013 10:32 Vivax wrote:
and prplhz


prplhz couldn't vote for anyone, or he almost condemns them immediately when i lynch him
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 12:51 GMT
#4002
On February 01 2013 21:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:24 annul wrote:
i am going to sleep now, but now that toad used up his powers and is either red or effectively a green, we should start to consider him in lynch decisions, too. he literally just attempted to railroad me while using a "DO NOT FIGHT ME ON THIS OR I WILL LYNCH YOU FOR BEING STUPID" argument. trying to stifle dissent, eh? hmmm...


He should know he didn't.


You mean he'd have gotten a RB notification? Indeed.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 12:53 GMT
#4003
On February 01 2013 20:54 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:19 Toadesstern wrote:
probably adam but I'd like to hear some more from you guys so I'll shut it for now.


So you think my master plan was to join the game, draw attention to my well-hidden and Godfather teammate with my first reads post, and then do it again when asked about bugs reads?

Yeah, that's really not how I play scum, If i think my team is onto a good thing, id be keeping my mouth shut.




I'm not actually sure I want to lynch you at all today, actually. But this post doesn't make sense. Toad & I were 100% lynching Axle if he wasn't medic, and it wouldn't matter if you made the best case ever on him or didn't mention him at all.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 13:00 GMT
#4004
Anyway.

Hey Mafia!

Please concede. It's impossible for you to win. There are a list of confirmed players we're never lynching, and then there's you. Here is the list of remaining players.

FiveTouch
Toad
Vivax
austin
debears


annul
mkfuba
adam
grush
oats

We can lynch indiscriminately into the bottom list in no particular order and win. Further, Toad has a jail to prevent a KP.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 13:13 GMT
#4006
On February 01 2013 22:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Well BC is slow with his notifications after alll...

Not so sure what to make of some people. Both vivax and oats look way worse with that flip.

But yeah as long as we can manage to get you and me into lylo we're fine :p


No, that list is confirmed town. Mafia literally cannot win.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 13:14 GMT
#4007
On February 01 2013 22:13 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 22:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Well BC is slow with his notifications after alll...

Not so sure what to make of some people. Both vivax and oats look way worse with that flip.

But yeah as long as we can manage to get you and me into lylo we're fine :p


No, that list is confirmed town. Mafia literally cannot win.


EBWOP: for example, even if Vivax is mafia. If he is, he'll be left alive, and he'll have to keep giving us checks.

We lynch him at LYLO-1, if he's mafia we win, if he's not mafia all his checks are confirmed and we win. So it makes no difference at all.
Artanis & marv
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