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Toad why are you so dead set against WBG being elected?
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On January 21 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba
If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.
If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.
Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.
I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah. Vivax wtf kind of post is this? Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise. Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate. This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you. Yamato, you seem to not be able or willing to view things from my position. I do care a lot about who becomes mayor, hence my initial candidacy. Why am I just voting the guy who is seen as the strongest town player in here and at the same time the guy who finds JieXian scummy along with me? You only mention the "if he's scum"-argument, that looks like you have a predisposition to paint me scummy in the first place... Why would you want to vote for Chezinu? That is something people that don't care about town would do. I wouldn't put my faith into a guy who speaks in riddles.
Your response is that I have confirmation bias because I chose to ignore the parts of your post that anyone could make (town Sandro being good for mayor, etc.) in favor of focusing on the things in your post that I find scummy, which is a general disinterest in the candidates who seem the towniest at the moment, your illogical justification of voting for Sandroba when you can't possibly have a town read on him, and your baseless attack on Chezinu.
You have yet to address any of that. All you did was repeat yourself and do all of it some more. Another silly justification for voting Sandroba. Another attack on Chezinu.
Put a gun to my head right now and I lynch you. Town makes me mayor and I fulfill that promise.
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The main thing is that I don't think Chez is trying to be unreadable this game.
Most games he is trying to be that way because he doesn't want mafia to shoot him, but this game he seems to be playing straight up which makes him way easier to read and understand.
So the attack is baseless and scummy to make. Chez is not a bad candidate for mayor.
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Instead of the Dearest/Five buddying action, let's talk about the Toad/Austin buddying going on at the moment.
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On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:@ YamatoShow nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.
So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?
Hello yamato. Why would you like a dearestsnot election? Who do you think is scum besides me?
Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.
I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.
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On January 21 2013 09:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:@ YamatoOn January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.
So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?
Hello yamato. Why would you like a dearestsnot election? Who do you think is scum besides me? Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did. I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game. 1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him? 2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat?
Are you, like, trying to OMGUS me right here or something, because I'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick just to try to make me look bad or if you're actually this stupid.
Why wouldn't I want to know why Toad doesn't want WBG elected?
I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth.
Comprende, hombre?
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On January 21 2013 10:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:55 Vivax wrote:On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:@ YamatoOn January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.
So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?
Hello yamato. Why would you like a dearestsnot election? Who do you think is scum besides me? Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did. I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game. 1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him? 2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat? Are you, like, trying to OMGUS me right here or something, because I'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick just to try to make me look bad or if you're actually this stupid. Why wouldn't I want to know why Toad doesn't want WBG elected? I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth. Comprende, hombre? 1. Cause a) In reality you don't give a shit about WBG being elected b) You don't suspect Toad to be scum anyway. So your question was pointless, you just tried to ask some random shit to look like you're contributing. 2. I don't want to vote for Chezinu cause he trolls and is almost impossible to read. The Chezinu rule has nothing to do with this, you're just mentioning it for I don't know what reason. Probably cause you can't explain why you ignore everyone else speaking against a Chezinu mayor. I am scummy for voting the strongest town player in here. Ok. Speaks for itself. Yamato is scum.
Wtf is this bullshit.
You're talking out your ass. Toad very well could be scum, how do you know I don't suspect him? Why would I turn down an opportunity to gain information on a player? Why is my fake contribution necessary when I've come up with a very good plan today and am hunting you as my scum target for today? None of that makes any fucking sense at all, you're just making up shit to look like you're suspicious of someone.
I don't really give two shits about what other people are saying about Chezinu, because their sentiments seem rational. Yours does not, isn't explained, and was thrown in alongside two other good town mayoral candidates in an attempt to sweep them all aside.
You're voting for Sandroba not because you think he's town, but because of the idea that IF he is town, he would be a good candidate. That's a bad reason right now and you're just parking your vote somewhere because you're not getting elected. You are reacting to no one taking your "campaign" seriously and it's scummy.
And now you're straight up OMGUSing me for no good reason when rational people think I'm town, because I am town and good at proving it.
You picked the wrong guy to fake-tunnel, scum.
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On January 21 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?
I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.
I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good. @ ToadWho do you suggest ? I like that idea. Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now. I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him. Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads. Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well You need to start posting debears.
What do you think of my interaction with Vivax right now?
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On January 21 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:18 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?
I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.
I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good. @ ToadWho do you suggest ? I like that idea. Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now. I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him. Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads. Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well You need to start posting debears. What do you think of my interaction with Vivax right now? you're both a bunch of idiots to me right now. But that's fine.
Explain both sides as a third party.
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On January 21 2013 10:28 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:26 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:18 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?
I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.
I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good. @ ToadWho do you suggest ? I like that idea. Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now. I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him. Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads. Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well You need to start posting debears. What do you think of my interaction with Vivax right now? you're both a bunch of idiots to me right now. But that's fine. Explain both sides as a third party. You're smashing your heads against each other for no particular reason. But that's what people do in mafia.
For no reason.
You don't think vivax is scummy for the post I pointed out? Why not?
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On January 21 2013 10:31 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:29 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:28 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:26 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:18 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?
I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.
I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good. @ ToadWho do you suggest ? I like that idea. Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now. I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him. Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads. Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well You need to start posting debears. What do you think of my interaction with Vivax right now? you're both a bunch of idiots to me right now. But that's fine. Explain both sides as a third party. You're smashing your heads against each other for no particular reason. But that's what people do in mafia. For no reason. You don't think vivax is scummy for the post I pointed out? Why not? Illogical != scum.
While true, I think the fact that he's illogical is indicative of the fact that he's fabricating his rationale for wasting his mayoral vote on a player he knows won't get elected mayor today for his vote so far.
Not caring about who gets mayor is equal to not caring about who gets lynched which is a strong scum tell. He's just particularly invested in hiding his intentions under some shallow "opinions" that don't hold up to scrutiny.
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On January 21 2013 10:32 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:29 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:28 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:26 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:18 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?
I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.
I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good. @ ToadWho do you suggest ? I like that idea. Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now. I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him. Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads. Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well You need to start posting debears. What do you think of my interaction with Vivax right now? you're both a bunch of idiots to me right now. But that's fine. Explain both sides as a third party. You're smashing your heads against each other for no particular reason. But that's what people do in mafia. For no reason. You don't think vivax is scummy for the post I pointed out? Why not? no I don't think he's scummy at all.
I think you missed the 'why not' part.
Now I'm just trying to decide whether you did it intentionally or not.
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@Djo
What is the point of all your talk about mayor/sheriff elections and town reads?
If you'd bothered to read my filter that supposedly makes me so town, you'd see that I hate this sort of behavior.
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On January 21 2013 10:39 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:36 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:32 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:29 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:28 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:26 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:18 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:
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@ Toad
Who do you suggest ? I like that idea.
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now. I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him. Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax
I support a chezinu election that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads. Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well You need to start posting debears. What do you think of my interaction with Vivax right now? you're both a bunch of idiots to me right now. But that's fine. Explain both sides as a third party. You're smashing your heads against each other for no particular reason. But that's what people do in mafia. For no reason. You don't think vivax is scummy for the post I pointed out? Why not? no I don't think he's scummy at all. I think you missed the 'why not' part. Now I'm just trying to decide whether you did it intentionally or not. he's like the towniest town in this town.
Okay Palmar.
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Well if no one is going to respond to anything meaningfully, I'm going to start doing what I've seen other top towns do and start listing my scum reads.
Toad - gut read, hasn't taken a stance on anything meaningful and has been most forceful about things that done matter at all (wbg's candidacy)
Vivax - scummy vote post for Sandroba and very scummy responses to my accusations
Djodref - famous as scum for 'setup talk', and is similarly wasting his words this game worrying more about who should or shouldn't be mayor and why or why not, plus his out if nowhere town read on me
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I would like to know why I'm wrong, if that is indeed the case.
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On January 21 2013 10:56 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 10:53 DearestSnot wrote:On January 21 2013 10:50 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 10:40 DearestSnot wrote:On January 21 2013 10:33 Vivax wrote:
I would vote Bugs just for slapping Toad for calling me an idiot while he's such a fruitless spammer. I think my name is enough of a slap for Toad LOL ![[image loading]](http://www.wordsmith.org/animatedgifs/anim-DearestSnot_Toadesstern-Cu4G.gif) Anyone who has already said they are not interested in voting me or FiveTouch : can I get an explanation why? So far most people have simply given pretty meh opinions. Austin's in particular are quite strange. He says we shouldn't dismiss Chezinu as a candidate, yet he says Chezinu should not be voted. I'm not actually seeing the reasoning for the dissonance there. I don't want to lynch prplhz so you don't get my vote  Anyone else you would like to lynch ? as I've already stated, I'm also willing to lynch Oats. Whom do you want to lynch? Clarity for not being being the usual Claritown and not posting when he promised to do so. I could lynch debears as well for similar reasons.
If there's one thing I learned from LVIII it is that this type of reasoning for thinking someone is scum is more often wrong than right, especially when it applies to those two, because they were both lurkish as town and different from their more 'normal' town games.
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Does anyone feel compelled to respond to me at all when I ask why people think Vivax is town?
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I truly don't understand all of you and your inconclusive banter about prplhz.
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