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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 10:15 GMT
#314
@ Clarity

Since you are running for mayor, is there anyone you would like to lynch right now ?
How do you plan to promote your campaign ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 11:19 GMT
#322
@ Vivax

What do you plan to do if JieXian isn't more active today ?
Wouldn't it be a lurker lynch ? What else didn't you like in his opening post ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 11:28 GMT
#324
On January 20 2013 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 18:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:50 yamato77 wrote:
I never said I wasn't running for mayor. If you guys want to elect me for my efforts today, I'm not going to stop you.

I've already been scumhunting. I don't like what Toad wants to do today, which is basically sit on the idea of town reads (insanely easy thing for scum to do) and elect based on reputation. Most of town seems content with that idea, so far, actually, which is quite disturbing.


So what are you gonna do about the fact that everyone agrees with Toad?


They do??

Last I checked, there was 4 votes for Chezinu, and 1 for Toad.


Either way, I am not interested in forming the town - lets all jerk each other off - vet circle that Toad is trying to lubricate us towards.


@yamato77

(1) If you were in pole-position for the "job".. is your Day1 lynch target Toad?
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:50 yamato77 wrote:
I've already been scumhunting. I don't like what Toad wants to do today,


&

(2) Are you satisfied with sandroba response? (i.e. made a decision not to campaign prior to game start)
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 13:51 yamato77 wrote:
Which makes sandroba's "I'm not running for mayor" post a huge fucking red flag in my eyes.

Why would any town player not want the chance at being mayor, especially someone with his reputation? It offers protection, something he sorely needs if he is town.




@ Mocsta

Why are you interested in yamato ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 12:53 GMT
#337
On January 20 2013 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Allow me to correct: Toad should consolidate, Axle should just learn to format his posts properly. Gonzaw is also one of those able to produce hurricanes of text.

mkfuba07 /confirm'd but didn't post anything since Daypost. Other "lurkers" didn't /confirm at all.

@ mkfuba07

Why so silent?Who do you think is scum?Who would you elect?

@ Djodref

Hello Djodref.

You have been asking a lot of questions lately.
May I beg for you to answer mine first?

What do you think of JieXian?
Who would you vote for Mayor right now?
Any tentative scumreads?


@ Vivax

I think that JieXian is a lynch-bait when he is town. I don't have enough post from him to have a good read on him.
I could imagine town JieXian doing this kind of opening post. So, he's null for now, and I wouldn't lynch him.
I have no idea who to vote yet but gonzaw looks the towniest among the candidates so farin my view, but I need to know who he is planning to lynch before I cast my vote.

I'm suspicious of austin and Clarity so far.
Clarity because he doesn't match his usual town activity and doesn't look very involved. Austin because he didn't say much about the mayoral election, so I wonder if he really cares who is going to be elected.

About you, I don't know, I would say town because the feeling I've got from you posts is different from our last scum game, but maybe the problem I have is simply that I don't know your alignment this time
So slightly town on you. But why do you ask ?

Could you also answer my questions now ?


Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 12:54 GMT
#338
On January 20 2013 21:36 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 21:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont feel confident lynching JieXian off 2 posts...
He has expressed delight in 2 players for mayor and hasnt expanded or anything. Regardless, Isnt it quick to vilify him so quickly?


This is an extremely odd defence of JieXian. Why are you making it?

##Vote: austinmcc


@ 5Touch

You need to explain me this austin vote.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 12:56 GMT
#339
On January 20 2013 20:28 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
On January 20 2013 18:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:50 yamato77 wrote:
I never said I wasn't running for mayor. If you guys want to elect me for my efforts today, I'm not going to stop you.

I've already been scumhunting. I don't like what Toad wants to do today, which is basically sit on the idea of town reads (insanely easy thing for scum to do) and elect based on reputation. Most of town seems content with that idea, so far, actually, which is quite disturbing.


So what are you gonna do about the fact that everyone agrees with Toad?


They do??

Last I checked, there was 4 votes for Chezinu, and 1 for Toad.


Either way, I am not interested in forming the town - lets all jerk each other off - vet circle that Toad is trying to lubricate us towards.


@yamato77

(1) If you were in pole-position for the "job".. is your Day1 lynch target Toad?
On January 20 2013 13:50 yamato77 wrote:
I've already been scumhunting. I don't like what Toad wants to do today,


&

(2) Are you satisfied with sandroba response? (i.e. made a decision not to campaign prior to game start)
On January 20 2013 13:51 yamato77 wrote:
Which makes sandroba's "I'm not running for mayor" post a huge fucking red flag in my eyes.

Why would any town player not want the chance at being mayor, especially someone with his reputation? It offers protection, something he sorely needs if he is town.




@ Mocsta

Why are you interested in yamato ?


@ Mocsta

Answer my question please

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 13:11 GMT
#343
On January 20 2013 22:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 21:56 Djodref wrote:
@ Mocsta

Answer my question please



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=17#330

I assume you did your due diligence and read that before commenting; so the synopsis:

You put shit in.. you get shit out.

Would you like to ask a more defined question to me?


@ Mocsta

Sorry, I didn't see your answer.
Do you really think yamato is going to be elected today ? I personally don't think so becauset yamato didn't "officially" campaign, and he is not known to have good reads so...
If not, I'm curious to know what raised your attention in his posts.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 13:13 GMT
#344
On January 20 2013 22:05 Vivax wrote:
@ Axle

If you read the first lines of my candidacy, you should know I'm in the CET time zone. I said I'm south of Rome. That wasn't flavour.

I'll let you know that I disregard your play, and quoting you again and answering to your points will be just another waste of time. You aren't hunting scum, you are tunneling a player and circle-jerking over single lines. You said you played two games, right? Well, if you are town, then start considering that there are 5 scum in this game.

Or are you just trying to make my candidacy look bad? Well, no one seems willing to vote me yet, so why bother?

I am curious though. What is your read on JieXian? I suppose you don't think I'm town?
What do you make of Djo dodging my question? Do you have a read on him?


@ Vivax

Which question did I dodge ? I think I've answered everything
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 13:29 GMT
#347
On January 20 2013 22:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 22:11 Djodref wrote:

@ Mocsta

Sorry, I didn't see your answer.
Do you really think yamato is going to be elected today ? I personally don't think so becauset yamato didn't "officially" campaign, and he is not known to have good reads so...
If not, I'm curious to know what raised your attention in his posts.



It doesnt matter if i think yamato is a candidate with a chance to win, I represent one vote out of 22.


I thought yamato campaigned passive-aggressively; just like Toad.
Its an approach I am oft in favour of when attempting to look squeaky-clean whilst attempting to manipulate.

Having said that, its not pertinent to determining alignment. At least not with the information we have currently.



Fair enough. Just one last question, are you familiar with yamato ? Have you played with him or read some games of him ?
Do you think that you can have a better read on him than on the other players here ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 13:41 GMT
#350
+ Show Spoiler [for reference] +
On January 20 2013 22:28 Vivax wrote:
I said that Djo dodged my question in my last post, he ninjad me, so we can put that point apart.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 20 2013 21:53 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Allow me to correct: Toad should consolidate, Axle should just learn to format his posts properly. Gonzaw is also one of those able to produce hurricanes of text.

mkfuba07 /confirm'd but didn't post anything since Daypost. Other "lurkers" didn't /confirm at all.

@ mkfuba07

Why so silent?Who do you think is scum?Who would you elect?

@ Djodref

Hello Djodref.

You have been asking a lot of questions lately.
May I beg for you to answer mine first?

What do you think of JieXian?
Who would you vote for Mayor right now?
Any tentative scumreads?


@ Vivax

I think that JieXian is a lynch-bait when he is town. I don't have enough post from him to have a good read on him.
I could imagine town JieXian doing this kind of opening post. So, he's null for now, and I wouldn't lynch him.
I have no idea who to vote yet but gonzaw looks the towniest among the candidates so farin my view, but I need to know who he is planning to lynch before I cast my vote.

I'm suspicious of austin and Clarity so far.
Clarity because he doesn't match his usual town activity and doesn't look very involved. Austin because he didn't say much about the mayoral election, so I wonder if he really cares who is going to be elected.

About you, I don't know, I would say town because the feeling I've got from you posts is different from our last scum game, but maybe the problem I have is simply that I don't know your alignment this time
So slightly town on you. But why do you ask ?

Could you also answer my questions now ?




Thanks for sharing your reads Djo.
I will answer your questions.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 20 2013 20:19 Djodref wrote:
@ Vivax

What do you plan to do if JieXian isn't more active today ?
Wouldn't it be a lurker lynch ? What else didn't you like in his opening post ?


1. I am looking for scum elsewhere. It's not like JieXian could be the only one. I honestly don't think this is a good question. What else would you expect me to answer?
2. Well, define lurker. For me lurkers are the guys that don't share anything/troll and vote to not get modkilled. But you should know that JieXian isn't in the crossfire just for lurking.
3. Cause the whole post if useless for finding scum. Look at that post and tell me: What would JieXian want to achieve with that?

I see 4 things:

→ getting gonzaw elected
→ defending Axle
→ drive-by-shitthrowing at me without even caring about commenting on anything I wrote.
→ Joking with Toad about something from earlier games.

He simply looks like he doesn't give a fuck about scumhunting.


@ Vivax

1. Honestly, I wouldn't be satisfied with a JieXian lynch right now, because it wouldn't give us much information (there is no so much to comment on). I would expect you to campaign around a better lynch candidate, from you opening campaign post. Better is the sense that we could get more info from the lynch.

2. By lurkers, I was thinking at lurkers (your definition) and inactives. I don't think you should focus your campaign around JieXian if he keeps being inactive, that is all. At least you wouldn't get my vote this way

3. Why JieXian among the others ? Austin doesn't look to give a fuck about scumhunting and also the mayoral election.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 14:52 GMT
#357
On January 20 2013 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 19:15 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

Since you are running for mayor, is there anyone you would like to lynch right now ?
How do you plan to promote your campaign ?


No there's no one I'd like to lynch yet. I'll promote my campaign by scumhunting and asking people to vote for me if they agree with reads I'm making.

"But clarity you haven't made any reads!"
Yep, true. Will have time to analyze stuff tonight, so far I've just read the thread to keep up.

What's with all the questions djo, you seem to have this "scatterfire" approach where you ask a person 3-4 questions. It doesn't fit either of your metas


I'm trying to figure people out Especially people running for mayor...
But I don't have definite reads so far. I'm also uncomfortable with the global inactivity.

I'm looking forward what you are going to come with.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 14:56 GMT
#358
EBWOP: And for the meta change, I don't know what to tell you. I think each of my games are different for the moment ^^
Also I'm playing this game with the mayor stuff for the first time, and it's my first big game as town
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 15:36 GMT
#362
Ok guys, I'm going to bed !

Just saying that I like austin latest posts. I think my earlier suspicions were unwarranted.
I hope the activity to raise up while I'm sleeping !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 20 2013 23:10 GMT
#412
On January 20 2013 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 19:15 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

Since you are running for mayor, is there anyone you would like to lynch right now ?
How do you plan to promote your campaign ?


No there's no one I'd like to lynch yet. I'll promote my campaign by scumhunting and asking people to vote for me if they agree with reads I'm making.

"But clarity you haven't made any reads!"
Yep, true. Will have time to analyze stuff tonight, so far I've just read the thread to keep up.

What's with all the questions djo, you seem to have this "scatterfire" approach where you ask a person 3-4 questions. It doesn't fit either of your metas


@ Clarity

Are you still around ?
I think ”tonight” is over soon in your place, why did you fail to provode anything yet ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 00:20 GMT
#437
I'm also sorry for stating the obvious, but the guy in second position gets to be sherrif, and that's a good spot for the mafia as well (immune to detection and night kills as well). I think we should organize ourselves so we have two town players on the key positions, that is mayor AND sherrif. That's why I don't think we should vote sandroba if he doesn't prove us that he is town today.
I'm not convinced at all for the moment.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 00:33 GMT
#448
On January 21 2013 09:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote:
Why would you want to vote for Chezinu? That is something people that don't care about town would do. I wouldn't put my faith into a guy who speaks in riddles.
The times that I've seen Chezinu give reads, they've been QUITE good. He also, in my mind, has some other qualities that I want in a mayor - someone that scum is going to have a hard time misleading and someone who can deal with being masoned well.


My problem with Chezinu is that I don't know him enough to be confident in my read on him. Also the fact that he seems hard to read because his style doesn't look difficult to emulate as mafia. And I think that's the case for several players here as well. That's the reasons why I'm not conformable with Chez being elected.
So far, I could see gonzaw, austin, vivax and Toad in the positions of sherrif and mayor. Because I think they are town, and also because they are active and try to move the thread forward. I encourage everybody to think not only about the mayor, but also about the sherrif, and remind that we absolutely don't want a mafia player on these spots.
I'm going to wait which player these guys want to lynch before making my decision.

@ Chez

Who do you want to lynch so far ?
I'm asking you because you are a candidate, and I think that runners have to be transparent to everybody.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 00:34 GMT
#449
On January 21 2013 09:33 DearestSnot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:30 Toadesstern wrote:
because he just said he wants to be sheriff and is buddying this fivetouch guy way to hard.

If this guy is really WBG like he said he's mafia. If he's not WBG idk.


I'm mafia by virtue of my identity?

Cool story bro, you're dumb by virtue of yours.


He is WBG, he derped in Dessert Mini Mafia.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 00:40 GMT
#453
On January 21 2013 08:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 08:10 Djodref wrote:
On January 20 2013 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On January 20 2013 19:15 Djodref wrote:
@ Clarity

Since you are running for mayor, is there anyone you would like to lynch right now ?
How do you plan to promote your campaign ?


No there's no one I'd like to lynch yet. I'll promote my campaign by scumhunting and asking people to vote for me if they agree with reads I'm making.

"But clarity you haven't made any reads!"
Yep, true. Will have time to analyze stuff tonight, so far I've just read the thread to keep up.

What's with all the questions djo, you seem to have this "scatterfire" approach where you ask a person 3-4 questions. It doesn't fit either of your metas


@ Clarity

Are you still around ?
I think ”tonight” is over soon in your place, why did you fail to provode anything yet ?


Life and things, but you know me, I stay up late generally. Currently reading


Not done with reading yet ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#474
On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?

I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.

I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good.


@ Toad

Who do you suggest ? I like that idea.
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#490
On January 21 2013 10:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now.


Why?
I haven't seen anything that sticks out as specifically pro-town. Perhaps you can enlighten me.


You aren't necessarily pro-town when you are town
Yamato sticks out, has strong opinions, looks emotionally involved and his main concern is to find scum. That makes him town in my eyes ^^
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