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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 03:36 GMT
#609
On January 21 2013 12:29 AxleGreaser wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 20 2013 11:20 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 11:14 Chezinu wrote:
On January 20 2013 11:10 austinmcc wrote:
On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:
I wanna see a serious chezinu.
Mayor-Chezinu does not necessarily mean serious Chezinu. "I will be serious if mayor" Chezinu does not necessarily mean serious mayor Chezinu.

If you want to vote him because you want him to have bodyguards and to have an extra vote, then by all means. But I don't think anyone should actually assume that Chezinu being mayor will mean anything about the way he plays.

I must disagree. I believe Chezinu will play sanely. The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. If he is already guaranteed to live then his play will certainly change.

the problem really isn't your sanity although that might be part of it.
The problem I see with voting someone like you is that unless you hit mafia d1 there will be a shitstorm d2 with half of the people screaming for your head while the other half doesn't want to lynch you.

It's just not a good situation to be in if you're mayor, no matter of your alignment unless you actually hit mafia d1 and I'm not willing to risk that without a proper read and having better / decent alternatives. Like I said, Sandro should be the #1 person to go to if he's town, he's really good as town but not so much as mafia. Shouldn't be too hard to figure him out if he starts posting

It's basicly the same reasoning for why I'm not running


Toad Said of Chezinu: the problem really isn't your sanity although that might be part of it.
The problem I see with voting someone like you is that unless you hit mafia d1 there will be a shitstorm d2 with half of the people screaming for your head while the other half doesn't want to lynch you.


Earlier Toad made this comment and it has stuck with me. It stuck with because it was what i have been concerned about this mayor thing since before the game. It is fine to look one move ahead, we could elect the worst player in the game mayor if we thought they were town, then by some
mini-max(a math term) game evaluation metric, that would be town in front as scum was deprived of a strategic position.
Thats poor analysis, the best analysis is what maximises game end position.

The problem is we must play so we get to Lynch the last Scum. Not just the next scum.
It is important to the vets to not get fooled and vote someone they can identify as scum to lead Town.
That is fine, but its not the whole game.
Whoever we elect they are likely going to eventually stuff up that, I am going to start to get suspicious.
By my best estimate, I expect to be in the cohort not lynched and not nk'd when that question comes up.
How at that time will i identify the vet, who the vets believed was town in light of all the new evidence i will have but the vets didnt.
That gives me real pause for thought lots of the vets use what to me are rather bizarre emotive arguments for stuff. if lower ranked players did the same stuff it would scream scum to me, but somehow I give the vets a pass because it looks to dumb to be vet. If thats how they run their mayoral duties, I am not really going to get a good feel for whether i blame them or town for the inevitable mislynches.

This narrows my field of vets somewhat to those that use rational understand not emotive baggage driven claims.

prplhz : platform Lynch Chezinu.
Chezinu: platform Lynch he(prplhz) who broke the Chezinu rule. (OMGUS Chezinu policy)

Well the list is longer but I dont give out town reads.

My criteria are I will need to be able to decide you are Town for myself in the future, that means being readable in why you do stuff.


I thought you would help my circles spend... Are the circles not brown enough for you? Was your vote only a joke? You underestimate the power of the Chezinu Rule.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 04:00 GMT
#624
On January 21 2013 12:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 12:43 debears wrote:
Btw

I think Djo would be a good lynch option today or tomorow

I'm looking at the vivax/yamato reaction

I believe yamato to be more likely scum out of the two

more coming after i read the last 6 pages

Debears what the fuck.

Are you high?

lol
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 20:42 GMT
#892
Looks like four people haven't voted yet.

Did you know that if you vote for me, you won't get modkilled!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 21:06 GMT
#901
Yay its a tie now! 5touch and Dearest are equal
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 21:08 GMT
#903
On January 22 2013 06:08 DearestSnot wrote:
you mean austin? I have no votes.

You winning now! 44 to 43
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 21:29 GMT
#918
Great observers! Where's the popcorn. We gotz a show a going!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 21:40 GMT
#925
On January 22 2013 06:32 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 06:28 Vivax wrote:
It's simple austin, cause I don't trust you. I'd rather have a troll have the seat than someone who might be scum.
Alright, but you became remarkably inconsistent.

#4, its important.

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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#931
On January 22 2013 06:51 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 06:46 Vivax wrote:
You all (debears, mkfuba, austin) must be really super-convinced that austin and JX are town if you flak me like that for a tentative scum read.

What exactly do you want me to do? Isn't it electing austin? To lynch whom? Stutters for playing like I know him from D1? No thanks.

Look, I find people suspicious who shovelled shit at me for my absence.
I find people super suspicious who instead of posting their reasoning about it (like gonzaw did=semi-admitting that it wasn't a good point and in the end null cause I was sleeping)

write that they had a reason to do so cause of some outer reason that has nothing to do with their thinking (the US tag), which then turns out to be wrong.

When called out for it, they don't answer.

Tell me, wouldn't you suspect scum behind it? You seem to be really convinced that he is town.

I'm remarkably convinced that I am town, yes. I'm not convinced that JX is town.

I mainly just want to be able to tell what everyone is thinking and WHY, which I can't do if you are inconsistent. Like before you didn't trust me and thought I might be scum. Now you don't want to elect me because I'll lynch stutters, a townread of yours. Let alone the fact that the sheriff wouldn't lynch anyone, and that is the position that seems to be in contention here. So it should be based again on thinking I might be scum, not based on who I might lynch.


That's a good point. I agree with Toad. There is no reason for Chez to be Second. He must be FIRST!!!!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 22:05 GMT
#935
you know who is awesome? Prplhz, Clarity_nl, mocsta, and Broodkingexe! The are like the best players ever. They are sooo cooll that if they vote for me, I would to them. You know why? Cause Chezinu listens to the people that vote for him. He would be willing to let his people vote for who he should lynch. They could simply vote in the thread by typing #lynch (name). Chezinu would listen. Vote Chezinu to be heard. If you don't, Chez may still listen to you - but you just won't be close enough to be heard clearly!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 22:09 GMT
#937
On January 22 2013 07:08 austinmcc wrote:
How come nobody is going after the wank-fiend's vote?

?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 22:12 GMT
#940
On January 22 2013 07:11 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 07:05 Chezinu wrote:
you know who is awesome? Prplhz, Clarity_nl, mocsta, and Broodkingexe! The are like the best players ever. They are sooo cooll that if they vote for me, I would to them. You know why? Cause Chezinu listens to the people that vote for him. He would be willing to let his people vote for who he should lynch. They could simply vote in the thread by typing #lynch (name). Chezinu would listen. Vote Chezinu to be heard. If you don't, Chez may still listen to you - but you just won't be close enough to be heard clearly!


So you would accept input on who to lynch from the guy you want to lynch? (prplhz)

I said I would listen.... Muhahahaha!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 23:14 GMT
#963
On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,

Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez?

To keep things interesting. Remember the Great Observers are watching. They are watching us all!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 22 2013 00:55 GMT
#1005
On January 22 2013 09:54 BroodKingEXE wrote:
My bad guys something came up, so I had to take care of it
Vote:BroodKingEXE since I have no clue what is going on.

you need to vote in voting thread.


So last minute voting.. who to vote for...
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 22 2013 01:02 GMT
#1022
Its already over right?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 22 2013 01:03 GMT
#1026
Clarity is dead?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 22 2013 01:14 GMT
#1040
Chezinu Rules 100%! Let's see how long this trend will last.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 22 2013 01:14 GMT
#1041
On January 22 2013 10:12 gonzaw wrote:
Like Chez...you know it's nice of you to vote for me in the end, but you did it way too late, without justification, in a joking matter, and it 100% wouldn't matter at all.
Other than just trying to fuck with us like you always do, why do that? Also why me and not austin for instance?

His name was above your in the voting list obv!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 22 2013 01:46 GMT
#1069
On January 22 2013 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 10:36 DearestSnot wrote:
On January 22 2013 10:34 Djodref wrote:
According to the Chezinu rule, could we see this flip as a strong indicator for a town Chezinu ?


why are you asking dumb questions?


Ok, I'm trying to see if I can deduce Chezinu alignment from what happened. Would prplhz have stated that he wanted one of his teammate dead right off the bat ? I don't think so, so I believe now that Chezinu is town, but I would like anyone to tell me that I'm wrong by thinking this way.

I'm dead aren't I? Just Draw a Big Target on me...

MEDIC!!!!

MAFIAS I GOTZ MEDICS AND YOU CAN"T TOUCH THIS!!!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 23 2013 04:31 GMT
#1499
On January 23 2013 10:58 annul wrote:
btw mafia has 2 KP, so the third death is either town vig/jack or mafia jack using their shoot power.

oh wow! Totally missed the miller death before reading this. All I saw were dead green townies.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 23 2013 04:33 GMT
#1501
On January 23 2013 12:09 DearestSnot wrote:
I like gonzaw for a lynch actually.

I feel like some of the things he has said are almost too dumb from a town gonzaw. In particular, his opposition to the prplhz lynch, while he somewhat supported Oats, and his opinions all game have been really neutral. I don't believe I've seen him taken a hard stance on really anything, and he is not really that proactive about his reads or his pushes.

His mayoral campaign was what...he'd be transparent? Posting a lot is not the same as being transparent, particularly as I don't even remember what his lynch candidate was.

Chezinu has also fallen off the face of the Earth, though he looks considerably better than most players due to his willingness to lynch prplhz so early. I hope he wasn't the one scum that decided to bus him early.

Started school again. MLK is over. I have midterm tomorrow. Still checking in.
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