TL Mafia LIX - Page 2

On January 21 2013 14:29 gonzaw wrote:


That seems to make sense in paper. One thing I can think of against it is: It seems kind of hard to plan.

The sherif is the guy with the 2nd highest amount of votes. This means that people have to singly vote for that guy, while other people singly vote for the mayor. Unless everybody thinks exactly like you do, you can't rally half+1 of people to vote someone and half-1 people to vote Vivax (or some other guy).

Other than that, I think I'd have to think a little bit more about it.
I prefer my judgement over Five's for being mayor, and of course having +2 votes each day. I don't know how he'll be using those votes later
I didn't really think about the sheriff role, other than if I don't get mayor, well being sheriff wouldn't be bad, I would still get protection (1 or 2 BGs though? I didn't fully understand that part of the OP). Don't really know what it means to others having the sheriff role on purpose (rather than being just failed mayor candidates ).

I also think the choice of people could be better. Vivax seems to be likely town, but:
-I am not 100% sure of that
-Even if he is, I don't know if him being sheriff would benefit town.
-Of course, based on those above, I'm not 100% him being sheriff would benefit the town.

Of course the same with the mayor choice.

On January 24 2013 20:48 Chezinu wrote:

You know BKE was kind of right too. It was a mix up of both. Its true I didn't really want toad to be sheriff. I still don't understand why everyone likes him. So, I jumped on austin -- I wasn't able to get to thread sooner. After posting and seeing it was 6:58 if I recall right (my time - 2 minutes before deadline). I noticed that it was over. So, I saw broodking posted above me and decided to have fun. So I copied pasted my previous post and then copy pasted BKE's name in the spot where austin's name was. posted. Then I copy pasted again my previous vote. This time, I have had to scroll up to get another name. I thought I could spell gonzaw, but failed. Lol, I typed gonaz just now on accident. Then revoted and it was over.

As for the not voting 5touch, I still wanted to be mayor. When I noticed that I wasn't going to win, there was no need to switch my vote to him b/c he was already in the lead. Everyone in town knew at the end, we where just trying to decided on a sheriff. So why people like toads? idk. But I do know that I like turtles.

Mommy dearest, are you really not reading the thread? Wasn't it you who claimed very early that "I didn't have a lynch candidate?" I recall responding to you to point out that I clarity mentioned that I was going to lynch based on the Chezinu Rule. The Chezinu Rule is very specific. Did you in fact read my last game? You certainly quoted the very post that I used the Chezinu Rule last game. You even compared my activity levels from this game to last, which really doesn't mean much. Let's see, last game I was not in school and on vacation. There was also no PMs that game either. Nor was their a mayoral election. You have to take all these factors into consideration, but even if you do... Chezinu is Chezinu!

You mention how previous game I pointed out that Palmar was town. Well, if you read that last game you would know everyone was attacking Palmar. Someone had to try saving him! This game 5touch who I trust, seemed to be safe. As for those I don't trust, you would be amongst them. 5touch should already know some of my other reads.

On January 25 2013 12:05 Adam4167 wrote:


Interesting welcome. I have read exactly none of this game, have I subbed into a train wreck?

You'll have to be patient while I catch up 120 pages.

On January 25 2013 12:10 DearestSnot wrote:


that's not what he's saying, if you read the next paragraph you see that he was talking about the sheriff election as if he had influence in that.

He clearly did, he was only 1 vote away from getting gonzaw elected. They just needed one vote, anyone who said "oh well I don't feel so sure about Toad" or any scum who was willing to jump with him could have gotten gonzaw elected.

Even if they sacrificed themselves for it (doubtful, given that I do not recall that anyone suspected Chezinu for that vote swap except for maybe me) they could have surely secured gonzaw that position. We would probably WIFOM ourselves out of lynching gonzaw just like we did earlier today in the absence of the DT check.

In addition they could have argued that they thought Toad was scum mason, or that gonzaw looked townier, or whatever crock shit they might come up with, and they'd be able to get away with it. If they were scum together they could even claim mason partners, and that'd take pressure off them even further.

I can think of a multitude of ideas and ways in which they could have done that. A mafia godfather coupled with a framer would make it so that there would be two innocents-to-checks making those votes, and then getting gonzaw into sheriff would make a third person unreadable.

These are obviously simply speculations but to pass them off as not being likely or possible because of the attention it draws is being naive, IMO. Chezinu and gonzaw are good enough players that I can see them at the very least trying to pull this off. (and no, I'm not a fan of these types of theories but the possibility exists. I think Chezinu is scum for bigger reasons than these, but we have to somehow figure out who supported gonzaw, and which of his supporters were scum. I seriously doubt that he ran without support from his teammates.)

On January 25 2013 12:42 DearestSnot wrote:
Why is BKE so focused on speaking on behalf of Chezinu? Literally 3/4 of his filter is talking about the vote business.

On January 25 2013 13:35 DearestSnot wrote:


yet you are not interested in any sort of other discussion, i.e. posing alternatives to my ideas.

All you do is shoot them down, instead of coming forth with people you actually think are scum.

Nice try bro, you're doing the same exact thing as the two guys who flipped scum before you.